Spinoff of a podcast I co-produce with animal rights activist/attorney Wayne Hsiung.
Animal rights is the theme.
I will expose the good in other activists and put my tiny weight of support into their efforts. I will highlight activists, artists, and community members with fascinating stories, typically related in some way to animal rights. I will use my press background as a former host and reporter at various NPR member stations to do engaging conversations and attempt to find angles and interesting points that haven't been covered in the movement or in the activists' work or history.
Camp Beagle's John Curtin, Right Before His Arrest
When I recorded this episode with animal liberation legend John Curtin, I didn't realize I'd be uploading it while he sat in a jail cell. But just as he predicted in this conversation just a day earlier, John was arrested, likely in connection with a rescue of 8 beagles from MBR Acres a week ago. Camp Beagle was also locked down and searched by police for a time but it's my understanding that protesters have finally been allowed to return. John denied any involvement in the beagle liberation and it's pretty clear from video and this conversation that he didn't know what was going on until the rescue had already taken place.
When I last had John on my podcast, it was 3 1/2 years since he and a small group of people set up a 24/7 camp outside MBR Acres, a notorious beagle breeder in the UK. Now 5 years in, the struggle continues, and the camp has been locked down. Surely Marshall BioResources CEO Scott Marshall, who admits "the writing is on the wall" as his puppy breeding empire comes under further scrutiny, is feeling the pressure and this flurry of activity from activists and authorities is only further evidence of that.
There may be some joy in witnessing the downfall of Marshall BioResources, but it's no consolation to the thousands of animals still suffering needlessly at their facilities. For John, it makes it all the worse for those still there.
Despite the grim topic, John is a real joy to speak with, among my favorite guests, which is why I invited him back. He's honest, candid, raw, and funny. And you can feel that every word comes from the heart. I can't wait to invite him back to celebrate the inevitable and permanent closure of Marshall Farms. I am calling for John's release, and the release of all the animals from Marshall BioResources.
This conversation is also available on YouTube (https://youtu.be/mCOGdxAs2zE).
Links:
Our first conversation (https://youtu.be/02fpvSEHTNA)
John's IG (https://www.instagram.com/jcdanimal/)
The Camp Beagle IG (https://www.instagram.com/thecampbeagle/)
Camp Beagle FB (https://www.facebook.com/campbeagleofficial)
The Camp Beagle (https://thecampbeagle.com/)
Jill Phipps doc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-fIMAM4qvA)
Watch Earthlings (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gqwpfEcBjI&t)
Watch Dominion (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQRAfJyEsko&t)
John's book recs:
The Dreaded Comparison (https://a.co/d/iZbSHQb)
The Bloodless Revolution (https://a.co/d/3SR1MtN)
Eternal Treblinka (https://a.co/d/588oxVx)
29 Aug 2026
Exposing the Myth of the Little Red Barn with Journalist Will Potter
Will Potter's novel "Little Red Barns: Hiding the Truth, From Farm to Fable" had an instant impact on me. Beyond it being exceptionally readable despite delving into dark topics, the book resonated with me as a former journalist who similarly felt the tension between "bearing witness" and living the story you're telling. Unsurprisingly, Will described that this 10 year project turned into something of a memoir as he navigated the shifting landscape of government repression of activist movements, particularly the animal rights movement."Little Red Barns" takes us beyond the mythical barnyard walls the industry has intentionally erected into the reality of modern animal agriculture. The words on the pages are alarming because the apocalyptic world it describes is right down the road, not far off. And today, not in the future.Beyond Will's extraordinary books, including "Green is the New Red" which I also highly recommend, I deeply enjoyed getting a chance to speak with him, and I hope you enjoy the conversation as much as I did.This conversation is also available on YouTube (https://youtu.be/OPhFcw1AhyA).Links:Will's website (https://www.willpotter.com/)Will's YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/@WillPotter)"Little Red Barns" (https://a.co/d/05zXBJ2u)"Green is the New Red" (https://a.co/d/0fwSiLa5)Will's IG (https://www.instagram.com/willpotter/)Will's FB (https://www.facebook.com/willpotter.official)Watch Earthlings (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gqwpfEcBjI&t)Watch Dominion (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQRAfJyEsko&t)
28 Aug 2026
Duke University Using Pigs to Study 'the Bends' (with Shriya Swaminathan)
I recently came across a story in the Raleigh News&Observer about PETA condemning research Duke University scientists were conducting on pigs to study decompression sickness, or "the Bends." This grotesque study subjected pigs to unspeakable suffering, and ultimately death. Shriya Swaminathan, science policy advisor at PETA, has been on top of the issue for years. Just 3 years prior she was on another podcast talking about similar research being conducted on sheep at the University of Wisconsin Madison. I wonder how many animals will pay the price for humanity's hubris.This type of work can be grim and depressing, so I feel deeply grateful for people like Shriya who dedicate their lives to pursuing an end to this exploitation. I highly encourage everyone to follow the links below and urge an immediate end to cruel testing on animals.
This podcast is also available on YouTube (https://youtu.be/rGtAbOPAENE).Links:Act Now (https://www.peta.org/navy)PETA's YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/@peta)News&Observer story (https://www.newsobserver.com/news/local/education/article316910898.html)PETA's IG (https://www.instagram.com/peta)PETA's FB (https://www.facebook.com/official.peta)PETA's TikTok (https://www.tiktok.com/@officialpeta)Watch Earthlings (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gqwpfEcBjI&t)Watch Dominion (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQRAfJyEsko&t)
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