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Discerning Hearts Catholic Podcasts
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- 30 Apr 2025
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- 11 Nov 2025
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11 Nov 2025
Ep 13 – The Anent Reflections, Part One – All Shall Be Well w/ Kris McGregor – Discerning Hearts Catholic Podcasts
In this episode, we begin Julian of Norwich’s Anent reflections, a meditative pause in her Revelations of Divine Love. Instead of recounting new visions, Julian turns inward to contemplate the truths already revealed to her. These reflections open a contemplative space filled with theology and spiritual insight, helping us see what God has shown her more clearly. We explore Julian’s teaching on God as unchanging Truth, Wisdom, and Love, and how our souls are created to share in those very attributes. We also reflect on her striking claim that there is no wrath in God — only goodness and mercy. Julian teaches that our judgment is distorted by sin, but God's gaze remains fixed on the soul as He created it, whole and beloved. Julian then introduces five inner movements of the soul: enjoying, mourning, desire, dread, and sure hope. Each one reveals a layer of the soul’s journey with God and helps us understand how grace is at work, even in moments of struggle. Finally, we hear her deep assurance that God’s mercy never ceases. No matter how often we fail, fall, or fear, His gaze of love never turns away. In God’s sight, the soul that belongs to Him has never died, nor ever shall. The post Ep 13 – The Anent Reflections, Part One – All Shall Be Well w/ Kris McGregor – Discerning Hearts Catholic Podcasts (https://www.discerninghearts.com/catholic-podcasts/ep-13-the-anent-reflections-part-one-all-shall-be-well-w-kris-mcgregor-discerning-hearts-catholic-podcasts/) appeared first on Discerning Hearts Catholic Podcasts (https://www.discerninghearts.com/catholic-podcasts).

20 Sept 2025
Ep 12 – The 14th Shewing – All Shall Be Well w/ Kris McGregor – Discerning Hearts Catholic Podcasts
In this episode, Julian of Norwich reveals the mystery of prayer as the soul’s union with God. She shows that Christ Himself is the ground of every prayer, the One who awakens the desire to pray, gives the words we offer, and delights to receive them. Prayer is not about changing God, who is always love, but about allowing ourselves to be changed, drawn more deeply into His mercy and will. Julian teaches that even when prayer feels dry or unanswered, it remains precious to God, for it rests in His eternal goodness. Whether in need or in gratitude, prayer unites us to Christ and becomes a share in His eternal joy The post Ep 12 – The 14th Shewing – All Shall Be Well w/ Kris McGregor – Discerning Hearts Catholic Podcasts (https://www.discerninghearts.com/catholic-podcasts/ep-12-the-14th-shewing-all-shall-be-well-w-kris-mcgregor-discerning-hearts-catholic-podcasts/) appeared first on Discerning Hearts Catholic Podcasts (https://www.discerninghearts.com/catholic-podcasts).

29 Aug 2025
Ep 11 – The 13th Shewing pt. 3 – All Shall Be Well w/ Kris McGregor – Discerning Hearts Catholic Podcasts
In this episode, we are guided into a deeper into the closing chapters of the Thirteenth Shewing. Julian confronts the painful reality of sin, but also the astonishing way God transforms even our wounds into worship. She sees how contrition, compassion, and longing for God purify the soul and prepare it for heaven, and how shame is turned into joy. Julian insists there is no harder hell than sin itself, yet reminds us that Christ’s mercy always seeks to heal and restore. Through her visions, she teaches us to hate sin for love of God while endlessly loving the soul as God loves it. This episode concludes with Julian’s reassurance that we are kept securely in God’s mercy, called to live lives of repentance, prayer, and sacramental grace as we await the day when truly “all shall be well. The post Ep 11 – The 13th Shewing pt. 3 – All Shall Be Well w/ Kris McGregor – Discerning Hearts Catholic Podcasts (https://www.discerninghearts.com/catholic-podcasts/ep-11-the-13th-shewing-pt-3-all-shall-be-well-w-kris-mcgregor-discerning-hearts-catholic-podcasts/) appeared first on Discerning Hearts Catholic Podcasts (https://www.discerninghearts.com/catholic-podcasts).

14 Aug 2025
Ep 10 – The 13th Shewing pt. 2 – All Shall Be Well w/ Kris McGregor – Discerning Hearts Catholic Podcasts
In this episode, we continue our exploration of Julian of Norwich’s Thirteenth Shewing, set against the vibrant faith of 14th-century Norwich. We consider the Church’s clear teaching on heaven, hell, and purgatory, and how Julian’s mystical visions always remained anchored in that truth. She reflects on the “great Secret” God keeps hidden until the appointed time and the truths He reveals through the Church, urging us to trust His timing. Julian then unfolds the harmony of God’s “Rightfulness” — His perfect justice and order — with His unfailing mercy that lifts us from our falls. Finally, she shows us how the Lord calls us tenderly back to Himself, saying, “I am enough to thee,” and how miracles, often preceded by trials, are given to strengthen our faith, increase our hope, and draw us deeper into His love. The post Ep 10 – The 13th Shewing pt. 2 – All Shall Be Well w/ Kris McGregor – Discerning Hearts Catholic Podcasts (https://www.discerninghearts.com/catholic-podcasts/ep-10-the-13th-shewing-pt-2-all-shall-be-well-w-kris-mcgregor-discerning-hearts-catholic-podcasts/) appeared first on Discerning Hearts Catholic Podcasts (https://www.discerninghearts.com/catholic-podcasts).

5 Aug 2025
Ep 9 – The 13th Shewing pt. 1 – All Shall Be Well w/ Kris McGregor – Discerning Hearts Catholic Podcasts
In Episode 9 we begin with part 1 of the Thirteenth Shewing, Julian confronts the mystery of sin and the question that has echoed through every age: why did God allow it? Her desire for understanding is met not with explanation but with a word of divine assurance—"All shall be well." This episode invites us into the mystery of redemptive hope, where God's hidden work is not yet seen but fully underway. This is the first of several episodes on Julian’s longest and most theologically rich revelation. The post Ep 9 – The 13th Shewing pt. 1 – All Shall Be Well w/ Kris McGregor – Discerning Hearts Catholic Podcasts (https://www.discerninghearts.com/catholic-podcasts/ep-9-the-13th-shewing-pt-1-all-shall-be-well-w-kris-mcgregor-discerning-hearts-catholic-podcasts/) appeared first on Discerning Hearts Catholic Podcasts (https://www.discerninghearts.com/catholic-podcasts).

16 Jul 2025
Ep 8 – The Eleventh and Twelfth Shewings – All Shall Be Well w/ Kris McGregor – Discerning Hearts Catholic Podcasts
In this episode, Julian of Norwich is drawn into the radiant joy of Christ—the joy He takes in His Blessed Mother, and the glory revealed in His glorified Face. In the Eleventh Shewing, Christ lovingly invites Julian to “see her”—to behold the Virgin Mary as He does, with delight and reverence. Through Julian’s vision, we glimpse the profound place of Mary in Christ’s heart and in the life of every Christian. In the Twelfth Shewing, Julian is lifted to contemplate the joy of Heaven: the Beatific Vision, where the saints behold the Face of Christ and are fully seen, fully known, and fully loved. Drawing from Julian’s text, Scripture, the Catechism, and the wisdom of the saints, this episode opens the mystery of divine joy that begins in Christ’s Passion and culminates in eternal glory. The post Ep 8 – The Eleventh and Twelfth Shewings – All Shall Be Well w/ Kris McGregor – Discerning Hearts Catholic Podcasts (https://www.discerninghearts.com/catholic-podcasts/ep-8-the-eleventh-and-twelfth-shewings-all-shall-be-well-w-kris-mcgregor-discerning-hearts-catholic-podcasts/) appeared first on Discerning Hearts Catholic Podcasts (https://www.discerninghearts.com/catholic-podcasts).

2 Jul 2025
Ep 7 – The 9th and 10th Shewing – All Shall Be Well w/ Kris McGregor – Discerning Hearts Catholic Podcasts
In Episode 7 we journey with Julian of Norwich into the mystery of Christ’s joy in His Passion. Rather than sorrow alone, Julian sees the Redeemer rejoicing in His self-offering, delighting to give Himself for the salvation of souls. She is shown the threefold joy of the Trinity, where the Father is pleased, the Son is crowned, and the Holy Spirit is satisfied. Then Julian is led through the wound in Christ’s side into the depths of His Heart—a resting place “large enough for all mankind.” Drawing on Scripture, the Catechism, and the mystical tradition of the Church, this episode opens the mystery of divine charity that transforms suffering into eternal joy, and invites the soul into the inexhaustible mercy of the pierced Heart of Jesus. The post Ep 7 – The 9th and 10th Shewing – All Shall Be Well w/ Kris McGregor – Discerning Hearts Catholic Podcasts (https://www.discerninghearts.com/catholic-podcasts/ep-7-the-9th-and-10th-shewing-all-shall-be-well-w-kris-mcgregor-discerning-hearts-catholic-podcasts/) appeared first on Discerning Hearts Catholic Podcasts (https://www.discerninghearts.com/catholic-podcasts).

12 Jun 2025
Ep 6 – The 8th Shewing – All Shall Be Well w/ Kris McGregor – Discerning Hearts Catholic Podcasts
In Episode 6, In this powerful episode, we enter the Eighth Revelation of Julian of Norwich—a devastating yet holy vision of Christ’s dying. Julian beholds the gradual drying of Christ’s body, a slow agony revealing the depths of divine love. She reflects on His thirst—both physical and spiritual—and joins in His suffering through a profound union of compassion. Drawing on Isaiah, the Gospel of John, the Catechism, and the witness of mystics like St. Bridget and St. Teresa of Calcutta, this episode explores the mystery of redemptive suffering. Julian's witness offers not only theological depth but an invitation to gaze upon the Crucified with love and trust. The post Ep 6 – The 8th Shewing – All Shall Be Well w/ Kris McGregor – Discerning Hearts Catholic Podcasts (https://www.discerninghearts.com/catholic-podcasts/ep-6-the-8th-shewing-all-shall-be-well-w-kris-mcgregor-discerning-hearts-catholic-podcasts/) appeared first on Discerning Hearts Catholic Podcasts (https://www.discerninghearts.com/catholic-podcasts).

28 May 2025
Ep 5 – The 6th and 7th Shewing – All Shall Be Well w/ Kris McGregor – Discerning Hearts Catholic Podcasts
In Episode 5, we explore Julian of Norwich’s Sixth and Seventh Shewings, where she is shown the eternal joy that awaits those who serve God in love, and the mysterious rhythm of spiritual consolation and desolation. Julian reveals that no act of agape love is forgotten, and even our hidden sacrifices are honored by the Lord with lasting joy. She also experiences the rise and fall of spiritual feelings, learning that God remains constant in both peace and pain. Her revelations echo truths later taught by St. Ignatius of Loyola: that spiritual desolation, while permitted, is never without purpose. Through it all, Julian teaches us to remain rooted in God’s unchanging love—trusting that His presence holds us through every joy and trial The post Ep 5 – The 6th and 7th Shewing – All Shall Be Well w/ Kris McGregor – Discerning Hearts Catholic Podcasts (https://www.discerninghearts.com/catholic-podcasts/ep-5-the-6th-and-7th-shewing-all-shall-be-well-w-kris-mcgregor-discerning-hearts-catholic-podcasts/) appeared first on Discerning Hearts Catholic Podcasts (https://www.discerninghearts.com/catholic-podcasts).

21 May 2025
Ep 4 – The 4th and 5th Shewing – All Shall Be Well w/ Kris McGregor – Discerning Hearts Catholic Podcasts
In this episode we enter the Fourth and Fifth Shewings, where Julian beholds the Precious Blood of Christ poured out in love, not horror, and is wrapped in His “homely loving”—an intimate mercy that does not recoil from sin but encloses it. She sees how Christ’s Passion overcomes the enemy, not by force but through unfathomable love, turning even the devil’s malice into the joy of the saved. With vivid tenderness and deep theological insight, Julian invites us to find refuge in the Blood of Christ, rejoice in His victory, and rest in the truth that all shall be well. The post Ep 4 – The 4th and 5th Shewing – All Shall Be Well w/ Kris McGregor – Discerning Hearts Catholic Podcasts (https://www.discerninghearts.com/catholic-podcasts/ep-4-the-4th-and-5th-shewing-all-shall-be-well-w-kris-mcgregor-discerning-hearts-catholic-podcasts/) appeared first on Discerning Hearts Catholic Podcasts (https://www.discerninghearts.com/catholic-podcasts).

14 May 2025
Ep 3 – The 2nd and 3rd Shewing – All Shall Be Well w/ Kris McGregor – Discerning Hearts Catholic Podcasts
In Episode 3, we explore Julian’s Second and Third Shewings, where the vision of Christ’s suffering and the image of “God in a point” draw us into a profound understanding of love, trust, and divine providence. Julian teaches that even in the face of pain and mystery, God’s presence is near, sustaining all things. We reflect on the difference between seeking and beholding, the grace of perseverance in prayer, and the assurance that God is working all things toward His perfect end. Through rich imagery and deep theological insight, Julian invites us to see that nothing is by accident—and that love is always at the center. The post Ep 3 – The 2nd and 3rd Shewing – All Shall Be Well w/ Kris McGregor – Discerning Hearts Catholic Podcasts (https://www.discerninghearts.com/catholic-podcasts/ep-3-the-2nd-and-3rd-shewing-all-shall-be-well-w-kris-mcgregor-discerning-hearts-catholic-podcasts/) appeared first on Discerning Hearts Catholic Podcasts (https://www.discerninghearts.com/catholic-podcasts).

7 May 2025
Ep 2 – The First Shewing – All Shall Be Well w/ Kris McGregor – Discerning Hearts Catholic Podcasts
All Shall Be Well: A Journey Through Julian of Norwich’s Revelations of Divine Love with Kris McGregor Episode Two: The First Shewing — Love Poured Out and the Mystery of the Trinity Summary: In this second episode, we enter into Julian’s First Shewing—a profound vision of Christ’s Passion that opens us to the mystery of the Trinity, the role of Our Lady, and the enduring love of God that holds all creation in being. Set against the backdrop of a suffering world, Julian’s revelations center not on fear or judgment, but on the intimate mercy of a God who bleeds, who nurtures, and who encloses the soul in divine goodness. This episode explores the mystical and theological depths of Julian’s experience through Scripture, contemplative reflection, and Julian’s own words. Full Julian of Norwich Quotations Used in Episode 2: From Revelations of Divine Love, Long Text, Chapters IV–VII, trans. Grace Warrack, Methuen & Co., 1901 (PDF edition). The Blood from the Crown — A Vision of Love in Suffering “And in this suddenly I saw the red blood trickle down from under the garland, hot and freshly and right plenteously, as it were in the time of His Passion when the garland of thorns was pressed on His blessed head. It was as though He had just been crowned, and it seemed to me that He was still bleeding now—as if it had never ceased, and would never cease—until all creation is healed by that love.” (Ch. IV) The Trinity — Love Without Beginning or End “And in the same Shewing suddenly the Trinity fulfilled my heart most of joy. And so I understood it shall be in heaven without end to all that shall come there. For the Trinity is God: God is the Trinity; the Trinity is our Maker and Keeper, the Trinity is our everlasting love and everlasting joy and bliss, by our Lord Jesus Christ.” (Ch. IV) Our Lady — The Humility and Glory of Mary “In this Shewing He brought our blessed Lady to my understanding. I saw her ghostly, in bodily likeness: a simple maid and a meek, young of age and little waxen above a child, in the stature that she was when she conceived. Also God shewed in part the wisdom and the truth of her soul: wherein I understood the reverent beholding in which she beheld her God and Maker, marvelling with great reverence that He would be born of her that was a simple creature of His making… She is more than all that God made beneath her in worthiness and grace; for above her is nothing that is made but the blessed Manhood of Christ.” (Ch. IV) “And [it was] to learn us this, as to mine understanding, [that] our Lord God shewed our Lady Saint Mary in the same time: that is to say, the high Wisdom and Truth she had in beholding of her Maker so great, so holy, so mighty, and so good. This greatness and this nobleness of the beholding of God fulfilled her with reverent dread, and withal she saw herself so little and so low, so simple and so poor, in regard of her Lord God, that this reverent dread fulfilled her with meekness. And thus, by this ground [of meekness] she was fulfilled with grace and with all manner of virtues, and overpasseth all creatures.” (Ch. VII) The Hazelnut and the Hiddenness of God “Also in this He shewed me a little thing, the quantity of an hazel-nut, in the palm of my hand; and it was as round as a ball. I looked thereupon with eye of my understanding, and thought: What may this be? And it was answered generally thus: It is all that is made. I marvelled how it might last, for methought it might suddenly have fallen to naught for little[ness]. And I was answered in my understanding: It lasteth, and ever shall [last] for that God loveth it. And so All-thing hath the Being by the love of God.” (Ch. V) “In this Little Thing I saw three properties. The first is that God made it,

30 Apr 2025
Ep 1 – Julian of Norwich and the Unshakable Love of God – All Shall Be Well w/ Kris McGregor – Discerning Hearts Catholic Podcasts
All Shall Be Well: A Journey Through Julian of Norwich’s Revelations of Divine Love with Kris McGregor Episode One: Julian of Norwich and the Unshakable Love of God Summary: Join Kris McGregor as she leads a journey through the work of Julian of Norwich—14th-century anchoress, mystic, and the first known woman to write a book in English—who offers a voice of hope, humility, and deep intimacy with God. This episode introduces her life and thought through the lens of her famous Sixteen Shewings, especially her bold desire to receive “three wounds”: contrition, compassion, and longing for God. We examine her relevance in our own anxious times and why the Church has affirmed her as a trustworthy guide, citing her even in the Catechism of the Catholic Church (§313). Primary Source: Julian of Norwich, Revelations of Divine Love, (https://www.discerninghearts.com/PDF/revelations.pdf) Long Text, trans. Grace Warrack, Methuen & Co., 1901 (PDF edition) You can access PDF edition here (https://www.discerninghearts.com/PDF/revelations.pdf) Full Julian of Norwich Quotations Used in Episode 1: Opening Quote (Ch. XXVII): “But Jesus, that in this vision informed me of all that is needful to me, answered with these words and said: ‘Sin is behovely, but all shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of thing shall be well.’” On her three desires (Ch. III): “And when I was thirty years old and a half, God sent me a bodily sickness in which I lay three days and three nights; and on the fourth night I thought to die. And then I desired to have all my pain and all my sickness for God’s glory, and to feel the Passion of Christ in my body as far as nature would suffer it. And I desired to receive three wounds in my life—that is to say: the wound of contrition, the wound of compassion, and the wound of longing with my will for God.” On humility and “even-Christians” (Ch. IX): “And thus I saw and understood that He is everything that is good and comforting to our help. He is our clothing who wraps and enfolds us for love, embraces us and shelters us, surrounds us for His love, and will never leave us. And for this, I am certain that there be many that never had shewing nor sight but of the common teaching of Holy Church, that love God better than I. For if I look singularly to myself, I am right nought. But in the general Body I am, I hope, in oneness of charity with all mine even-Christians.” On God’s nearness and love (Ch. LVI): “For our soul is so specially loved of Him that is highest, that it overpasseth the knowing of all creatures… And therefore we may with grace and His help stand in spiritual beholding, with everlasting marvel of this high, overpassing, inestimable Love that Almighty God hath to us of His Goodness. For He is nearer to us than our own soul.” Pope Benedict XVI Quotes (General Audience, Dec. 1, 2010) Source: Vatican.va “She understood the central message for the spiritual life: God is love, and only when we open ourselves totally to this love and allow it to become the sole guide of our life, is everything transfigured, true peace and true joy found, and we are able to spread it.” “Julian’s message, sustained by optimism and trust, is a powerful invitation to all those who, in our time, are gripped by anxiety and fear.” “Julian is not only the great mystic who has visions of God’s love, but also the wise and loving counselor who, like the saints, knows the human heart well.” Catechism of the Catholic Church, §313
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