A podcast that demystifies the creative industries, hosted by Scottish Script Editor Jamie Mackinlay. Each week, Jamie chats with creatives at different stages of their careers about the highs, lows and everything in between. Perfect for anyone interested in working in the arts, Just Get A Real Job celebrates creativity in all its forms and offers insight, humour, and advice for anyone starting out or trying to navigate a career in the arts.

Just Get A Real Job
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A podcast that demystifies the creative industries, hosted by Scottish Script Editor Jamie Mackinlay. Each week, Jamie chats with creatives at different stages of their careers about the highs, lows and everything in between. Perfect for anyone interested in working in the arts, Just Get A Real Job celebrates creativity in all its forms and offers insight, humour, and advice for anyone starting out or trying to navigate a career in the arts.
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June 11, 2026
EP. 194 - 'How Do Debut Filmmakers Get Their Chance?' | Gabriella Leonardi
<p><strong>In this week's episode, Jamie is joined once again by writer and filmmaker Gabriella Leonardi. After moving to London for what was meant to be a two-month acting job, Gabriella is now pursuing a career as a writer and director, developing her own projects and navigating an industry that feels more risk-averse than ever.</p><p>Gabriella speaks about:</p><p>๐ฌ Why breaking into film feels harder than ever</p><p>๐ฐ Making your own work without money or industry connections</p><p>โญ How Sheridan Smith came to appear in one of her short films</p><p>โ๏ธ Why she decided to handwrite a letter to Steven Spielberg </p><p>โค๏ธ How losing her grandad has made her even more determined to tell the stories that matter to her</p><p>๐ฅ Why she's determined to keep telling the stories she believes in, rather than changing her voice to become more "marketable"</p><p>๐ฌ Rejection, resilience and what it really takes to build a creative career on your own terms. </p><p>A brilliant conversation about what it's really like for many creatives currently. </p><p>Find out more about Gabriella and her work:</p><p>๐ </strong><a href="https://fillinghamweston.com/clients/name/gabriella-leonardi/"><strong>https://fillinghamweston.com/clients/name/gabriella-leonardi/</strong></a><strong></p><p>๐ธ </strong><a href="https://www.instagram.com/gabriellaleonardi/"><strong>https://www.instagram.com/gabriellaleonardi/</strong></a><strong></p><p>๐ Support the podcast on Patreon:</p><p></strong><a href="https://www.patreon.com/justgetarealjob"><strong>https://www.patreon.com/justgetarealjob</strong></a><strong></p><p>๐ Stay connected withย </strong>Just Get A Real Job<strong>:</p><p>Instagram ๐ธ</strong><a href="https://www.instagram.com/justgetarealjob"><strong>https://www.instagram.com/justgetarealjob</strong></a><strong></p><p>TikTok ๐ฌ</strong><a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@justgetarealjob"><strong>https://www.tiktok.com/@justgetarealjob</strong></a><strong></p><p>X (Twitter) ๐ฆ</strong><a href="https://twitter.com/justgetarealjob"><strong>https://twitter.com/justgetarealjob</strong></a><strong></p><p>All links ๐</strong><a href="https://linktr.ee/Justgetarealjobpodcast"><strong>https://linktr.ee/Justgetarealjobpodcast </strong></a><strong></p>

June 4, 2026
EP. 193 - 'Why I Had To Leave TV' | Chloe Maylaw
<p>In this week's episode, Jamie is joined by Chloe Maylaw for an honest conversation about leaving the TV industry, creative burnout and building a life that's more aligned with the work you actually want to make.</p><p>After a few years of working in television, Chloe made the difficult decision to step away from what many would consider a dream career. She opens up about the realities of working in TV, the impact it had on her mental health, and why leaving ultimately allowed her to focus on her real passion: writing and directing.</p><p><br></p><p>Chloe spoke about:</p><p>๐ฌ Why she decided to leave the TV industry๐ผ How a more traditional 9-5 has given her more time and energy to create</p><p>๐ง Mental health and trying to find balance as a creative</p><p>๐ฑ Building an online audience through honest and relatable videos about her experiences</p><p>๐ฅ Making your own work and creating opportunities</p><p>๐ฌ What the TV and film industries need to do better, informed by her current work in HR</p><p>A thoughtful and honest conversation about having the courage to change direction when something no longer feels right.</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p>๐ธ Chloe Maylaw Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/chloemaylaw_/" target="_new" rel="noopener">https://www.instagram.com/chloemaylaw_/</a></p><p>๐ Chloe's Links & Projects: <a href="https://linktr.ee/chloemaylaw" target="_new" rel="noopener">https://linktr.ee/chloemaylaw</a>_</p><p>๐ Support the podcast on Patreon:</p><p><a href="https://www.patreon.com/justgetarealjob" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">https://www.patreon.com/justgetarealjob</a></p><p>๐ Stay connected withย Just Get A Real Job:</p><p>Instagram ๐ธ<br><a href="https://www.instagram.com/justgetarealjob" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">https://www.instagram.com/justgetarealjob</a></p><p>TikTok ๐ฌ<br><a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@justgetarealjob" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">https://www.tiktok.com/@justgetarealjob</a></p><p>X (Twitter) ๐ฆ<br><a href="https://twitter.com/justgetarealjob" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/justgetarealjob</a></p><p>All links ๐<br><a href="https://linktr.ee/Justgetarealjobpodcast" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">https://linktr.ee/Justgetarealjobpodcast</a></p><p></p>

May 26, 2026
EP. 192 - 'Finding Humour in a Broken Industry' | Craig Manson
<p>In this weekโs episode, Jamie is joined by Glasgow-based performer and artist Craig Manson for an honest conversation about creativity, performance and the realities of working in the arts today.</p><p>Known for his satirical and hilarious videos about the arts world, Craig chats about why his content has resonated so strongly with creatives online, and how humour can sometimes become a coping mechanism for industry frustrations.</p><p>Craig spoke about:</p><p>๐ญ Building a career across theatre, live art, cabaret and performance</p><p>๐ฑ Creating viral content and finding an audience online</p><p>๐ Why so many creatives โfeel seenโ by his videos</p><p>๐๏ธ The realities and frustrations of working in the arts</p><p>๐จ Coming from a remote part of Scotland and finding his way creatively</p><p>๐ด His upcoming Fringe show Bunny</p><p>๐ฌ His advice for aspiring creatives and performers and more</p><p><br></p><p>A funny, thoughtful and refreshingly honest conversation about creativity, identity and trying to survive the arts world with your sense of humour intact.</p><p>Recorded at The Podcast Studio Glasgow on the 11th of May ๐๏ธ</p><p><br></p><p>Out now on Spotify, Apple Podcasts & YouTube.</p><p><br></p><p>This weekโs episode is sponsored by rad Scotland.</p><p>rad Scotland is a paid TV traineeship helping people from underrepresented backgrounds break into the Scottish TV industry through placements, training and mentoring.</p><p>Applications close Wednesday 3rd June at 5pm:<a href="https://trcmedia.org/training/rad-scotland/">โ https://trcmedia.org/training/rad-scotland/โ </a></p><p><br></p><p>๐ Check out Craigโs work:</p><p>Instagram ๐ธ<br><a href="https://www.instagram.com/_craigmanson_/?hl=en">https://www.instagram.com/_craigmanson_/?hl=en</a></p><p>Fringe show ๐๏ธ<br><a href="https://www.edfringe.com/tickets/whats-on/bunny">https://www.edfringe.com/tickets/whats-on/bunny</a></p><p>Website ๐<br><a href="https://craigmanson.info/">https://craigmanson.info/</a></p><p><br></p><p>๐ Support the podcast on Patreon:</p><p><a href="https://www.patreon.com/justgetarealjob">https://www.patreon.com/justgetarealjob</a></p><p>๐ Stay connected with Just Get A Real Job:</p><p>Instagram ๐ธ<br><a href="https://www.instagram.com/justgetarealjob">https://www.instagram.com/justgetarealjob</a></p><p>TikTok ๐ฌ<br><a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@justgetarealjob">https://www.tiktok.com/@justgetarealjob</a></p><p>X (Twitter) ๐ฆ<br><a href="https://twitter.com/justgetarealjob">https://twitter.com/justgetarealjob</a></p><p>All links ๐<br><a href="https://linktr.ee/Justgetarealjobpodcast">https://linktr.ee/Justgetarealjobpodcast</a></p><p></p>
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