Innovation and Adaptation: Betsy Steckler on Booking.com's Travel Strategies
Booking.com’s Betsy Steckler on Experimentation, AI, and What Travelers Really Want
Host Steve Schwab interviews Betsy Steckler, Regional Director Partner Services of North America at Booking.com, about how the company uses data-driven experimentation and iteration—running about 1,000 experiments a day—to optimize traveler experiences and partner conversion rather than relying on opinions or flashy design. Betsy explains why Booking sometimes “zigs” when competitors “zag,” and shares lessons from launching and shutting down Villas.com, framed as a “fail fast” learning that reinforced travelers’ desire to compare all accommodation types in one place and helped shape the Connected Trip vision. She outlines three traveler truths from Booking’s annual survey of about 30,000 people: accountability, value for money, and authenticity, and discusses AI’s role in speeding decisions while keeping final booking decisions human. Betsy advises property managers to focus on differentiation, content, reviews, cancellations, and traveler mix, emphasizing partnership and collaboration with Booking.com.
00:00 Welcome and Guest Intro
00:27 Betsy Background and Role
01:36 AI and Staying Relevant
03:07 Competition and Data Culture
05:39 A Thousand Experiments Daily
08:36 Why Booking Zigz
14:01 Villas.com Lessons Learned
17:10 Fail Fast Culture
21:01 Onboarding for Experimentation
25:06 Connected Trip Expansion
28:13 Three Traveler Truths
30:44 AI Trust and Human Choice
33:37 Advice for Property Managers
38:50 Signals Reviews and Cancellations
41:42 Using Competition to Grow
44:44 Ranking Risks and Reviews
45:53 Future Partnership and Wrap Up
18 Jun 2026
AI, People and Property Management
Mike Mears on Extend Team’s Shared Services: Blending AI and Human Support for Vacation Rentals
Host Steve Schwab interviews Mike Mears, Extend Team’s global head of revenue, about his shift from OTAs and AI tools into staffing and why he prioritizes a people-first approach. Mears describes building an AI-driven vacation rental education library for newcomers and explains how Extend Team is evolving from traditional staffing (30–45 day hiring) to a shared services, plug-and-play model combining trained human support with AI handling routine guest inquiries for faster response times and better reviews. He argues AI can cover up to 80% of tasks but struggles with high-empathy, high-stakes situations like lockouts at 3:00 AM or emergencies, making human coverage a key differentiator. Extend Team offers shared services packages priced roughly $25–$100 per unit, onboarding in 3–10 days, plus direct staffing for specialized roles; an AI-only model is planned for flexible, seasonal use.
00:00 Welcome and Introductions
00:57 Mike’s Industry Journey
02:43 People First and Education
03:45 Extend Team Shared Services
05:43 AI vs Humans in Guest Service
08:34 When to Use Staffing or AI
10:54 Onboarding and Service Pillars
14:07 Pricing and Scaling Packages
16:09 AI Investment and Margins
17:42 AI Only Model and Risk
20:25 How to Contact Extend Team
21:02 Closing Thanks and Wrap Up
21 May 2026
Tim Rosolio on SNADs, quality, and fastest way to be de-ranked!
Steve Schwab interviews Tim Rosolio, VP of Vacation Rental Partnerships at Expedia Group, about VRBO’s recent transition to a common Expedia tech stack that expands VRBO inventory across Expedia demand and a growing B2B network (including Uber), enables hotel-style promotional tools, and intensifies a focus on quality and trust to reduce traveler anxiety. Rosolio explains how quality signals—acceptance rate, cancellation rate, and reviews—drive conversion, badges, and search ranking, with last-minute cancellations the fastest way to lose position. They discuss VRBO Care’s protections (accuracy, 24/7 assistance, fraud protection, rebooking support) and common failure points like SNAD and denied entry. Rosolio notes operators delivering consistent experiences are winning as weaker supply exits, and highlights conversion drivers like strong photos, disclosed amenities, and tangible hospitality upgrades. They also cover distribution shifts, upcoming flight-plus-rental packaging, AI features (chatbots, Q&A, review summaries, natural language search), and preparing for AI-based discovery.
00:00 Welcome and Introductions
01:09 Tim as a Host
02:23 Expedia VRBO Strategy
04:41 Trust and Quality Shift
08:14 Vrbo Care Explained
10:13 Ranking and Quality Signals
13:11 Conversion Boosting Amenities
15:37 Distribution Channels Today
18:16 AI Reality Check
21:41 What Works and Whats Next
22:41 OTA vs Book Direct
24:07 Final Tip and Wrap Up
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