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Lake Life With Molley And Chad Podcast

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Lake life with Molley and Chad is a podcast dedicated to Boating, Lake boating more specifically. Our story begins when Molley's Dad purchased a 16ft Mark Twain tri-haul to spend weekends and days after work on the water with family and friends. Thus begins the love/hate relationship with boating for her. From days anchored out floating jamming on some Alabama (her Dad's favorite band) to slicing the glass-like water with a slalom ski as the sunsets over the dam. Chad married into the lifestyle and now is either on the Heyday dragging their kids all over the lake every weekend or chilling on the pontoon. Most of their friends own boats of all types. They are basically on the water all weekend in the summer. This Husband and Wife team has seen a lot over their 20+ years boating together and would like to share some laughs, some stories, and hopefully some peace of mind about boat ownership from top to bottom.

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October 13, 2023

State Dock Poker Run 2023

Episode 32: Molley and Chad close out Season 3 with their friend Chad Hopper. As the weather changes and the Fall colors burst, State Dock on Lake Cumberland hosts a Poker Run. It’s the last blow out event of the season. Lake Life with Molley and Chad is a sponsor of the 2023 Poker Run. Welcome to the Poker Run Chad explains that the <a href= "https://statedock.com/explore-state-dock/lake-cumberland-poker-run/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Lake Cumberland Poker Run</a> is an event involving some really powerful boats on the lake. It’s usually held over a weekend. Molley and Chad made sure to publicize the <a href= "https://lakelifemolleyandchad.com/" target="_blank" rel= "noopener">podcast merch</a> and all the swag from t-shirts, footballs and more at this year’s event. This year, they decided to have fun at the dock party, rather than heading out on the water. They had a great time with a big group of friends. In keeping with the lake atmosphere, some of the partygoers were wearing fishnet bathing suits and a few were sporting thongs. Chad and Molley talked about how much confidence it would take to wear one of those bathing suits. Yep, not much more to say about that. Molley mentions this year’s event included 150 boats. Both <a href= "https://cigaretteracing.com/" target="_blank" rel= "noopener">Cigarette</a>, <a href="https://www.formulaboats.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Formula</a> and <a href= "https://www.sunsationboats.com/" target="_blank" rel= "noopener">Sunsation</a> were sponsors. There were a few <a href= "https://marinetechnologyinc.com/" target="_blank" rel= "noopener">MTIs</a> in the poker run. It’s worth going down just to watch some awesome boats. This year, the tickets were only $50 for the weekend. Chad recommends you start planning for the 2024 event. It’s going to be a great time! Dock vs. Water – Which is Better? Molley asks if they have a vote for which experience they liked the best. They’ve been out on the water in years past. But this year was the full dock experience. Chad comments about how much fun the dance floor at the dock was, thanks to a couple of great DJs (DJ Al and DJ Xtina). Chad Hopper points out that it’s a long day, so why not consider doing both? There’s time to get in some boating. He really enjoys the boats and in reality, the entire event is a party. Another one of their friends likes to work on motors. The boats in this poker run had some great examples of pure muscle on the water. One of the things Molley like is that both <a href="https://www.cumberlandpokerrun.com/" target="_blank" rel= "noopener">Thunder Run</a> and the Poker Run bring some great boats to Lake Cumberland. They’re both fast and beautiful. If you come down for the week, you’ll be able to watch some of them without the crowd. People love to talk about their boats and it’s a great way to expand the overall experience. Molley, Chad and Chad take a little detour in the conversation to talk about some of the things they’ve learned and seen. The Foam Football and Stickers Story Molley describes the fun they had with the Lake Life with Molley and Chad foam footballs they brought to the Poker Run. They handed them out and interacted with people waiting in line at the restaurant. People absolutely loved them, along with some of the stickers they had. Admittedly, the stickers were hit and miss, depending upon who was handing them out. The Food Trucks Crushed It There was a Mexican food truck and a barbecue truck that showed up with some terrific food. Both are based in Russell Springs, Kentucky. They added some variety to the State Dock restaurant (<a href= "https://statedock.com/explore-state-dock/the-wheelhouse/" target= "_blank" rel="noopener">The Wheelhouse</a>), which is always packed. Which Boat would Chad Hopper Buy? Molley asks Hopper which one of the Poker Run boats he’d buy, if money were no object. He really likes those Cigarette boats. Chad is partial to the Formula boats. Molley admits she’s still a Sunsation and MTI fan. Future Plans Molley and Chad explain that they’ll have to miss the 2024 Poker Run because their daughter is getting married! It’ll be the first one they’ve missed in about 10 years. It’ll probably be worth it. For the 2025 Poker Run, Molley thinks they should anchor a houseboat near the DJ booth on the dock. The Chads talk about the prep work they’d do to get it ready for the weekend. Molley points out that the <a href= "https://www.jamestownnewportferry.com/" target="_blank" rel= "noopener">Jamestown water taxi</a> operates until 1:00am to help all of you partygoers. Future Topics Is there a topic or idea you’d like for us to discuss on the Lake Life with Molley and Chad Podcast? We’d love to hear from you. Molley likes the idea of talking to people on other lakes, outside of Kentucky. There’s always something new to learn. As they close out today’s episode, Chad makes a great point. Consider stopping by your favorite marina and picking up a few items to help them out. The end of the season often has some great sales, but that also means business is getting ready to slow down. Let’s make sure they make it through the winter and are able to come on strong next Spring. Wow, can you believe this summer flew by so quickly? It’s been a terrific time interviewing friends about other Kentucky lakes. If you missed a few episodes, be sure to go back and listen to them. We’d appreciate it if you’d consider sharing comments and links on your social media to help Lake Life with Molley and Chad to continue to grow. Thanks for being part of all of it. Friends, that’s a wrap for this episode and Season 3. We’d like to thank Chad Hopper for guest hosting with us. We hope you found it helpful, insightful and maybe a little entertaining. Thanks for Listening! If you enjoyed this podcast, please consider sharing it with your social media friends. We hope to see you out there soon. Until next time, here’s to warm weather and calm waters! Don’t forget to subscribe!

September 28, 2023

Dock Crawl 2023

Episode 31: Molley and Chad return to the Dock Crawl at State Dock Marina on Lake Cumberland, for the second year in a row. This episode will feature interviews and comments from friends and new friends who came out to enjoy a wonderful tradition. In a <a href= "https://directory.libsyn.com/episode/index/show/lakelifewithmolleyandchad/id/24237660" target="_blank" rel="noopener">previous episode</a>, you met Donzi Dale and Sandy. They have a houseboat on the lake and invited Molley and Chad to use their boat as a home base during the event. A special shout out to <a href= "https://directory.libsyn.com/episode/index/show/lakelifewithmolleyandchad/id/23519690" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Mandy and Travis</a> to introducing them to the Dock Crawl in 2022. Their friend Kelly Smith was the interviewer during the 2023 event. She did a terrific job. Recon Duty with Mr. Barry Truth be told, Barry Sinclair is from a different row on the dock (Row 200), but was doing some recon to see how things were shaping up and what the competition looked like this year. Kelly, Molley and Chad welcomed him to the microphone to get his take on the event. Barry started coming down to <a href= "https://statedock.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">State Dock on Lake Cumberland</a> in 1977. They started by staying in the cottages and then bought a houseboat about 22 years ago. They originally kept it at <a href= "https://shmarinas.com/locations/safe-harbor-jamestown/" target= "_blank" rel="noopener">Jamestown</a>, but decided to move to State Dock roughly 11 years ago. He drives down from Cincinnati, OH every weekend. In addition to the houseboat, he has a dual console runabout he keeps in a slip. Barry’s son also has a boat in a nearby slip. Barry’s youngest son was 2 weeks old when he had his first lake experience. It’s safe to say he grew up on the water. Molley mentions both of their children grew up around the water. Now they’re in the 20s. Barry used to be into watersports, but as he’s gotten older is more about boatin’ and floatin’. That phrase might just make it onto a t-shirt. Be sure to check out the <a href="https://lakelifemolleyandchad.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Ship Store</a> on the Lake Life website. He has a new grandson who’s 5 and half months old. The kiddo has already been floatin’ on the water. They talk about how important getting down to the lake is for the family. If their family plans any weddings during the summer, Barry will usually send a gift and maybe take them out some other time. We’ve spoken often about how Lake Life is such a fun mindset and once you begin, other priorities tend to get reshuffled. Barry and his family have spent many Thanksgivings and holidays on the lake. It’s truly a special place. Before they wrap up with Barry, they ask about his boats. He owns a <a href="https://scoutboats.com/" target="_blank" rel= "noopener">dual console Scout</a> and his <a href= "https://trifectahouseboats.com/our-boats/" target="_blank" rel= "noopener">Stardust houseboat</a>. His son has a <a href= "https://robalo.com/Robalo_Boats.php" target="_blank" rel= "noopener">center console Robalo</a>. Barry is getting ready to go down to the <a href="https://www.flibs.com/en/home.html" target= "_blank" rel="noopener">Ft. Lauderdale boat show</a>. The group ends with a brief discussion of lake homes vs. houseboats. Molley and Chad mention they’re getting ready for a 10-day catamaran trip with some friends in the British Virgin Islands. Bob comments he’s be fortunate to have travelled all over the world, but Lake Cumberland is one of his favorite places. What Does Chad Like Best about the Dock Crawl? For Chad, it’s the entire event. There’s so much going on and people to meet. Brody, Clifford and Melody Stop by for a Chat Brody is in the 500 row, while Clifford and Melody are in the 300 row at the State Dock. Brody’s also checking on the competition. Melody mentions they have a cruiser. Now, with the grandchildren, the make it down to the lake about every 3rd weekend. Brody has a middle console boat, a houseboat and an <a href= "https://excelboats.com/f4-shallow-water.html">F4</a>. Clifford’s been coming down to the lake for 12-15 years. Molley asks what they each like about coming down to the lake. Brody likes taking the boat out on the water. He got his <a href= "https://www.boat-ed.com/kentucky/?campaignid=237667219&adgroupid=24887973019&keyword=boating%20license%20kentucky&gad=1&gclid=CjwKCAjw38SoBhB6EiwA8EQVLjdmHKlb4tRmsBGTCorPPt-RzgJQwnzbq7VF9oWCV2Iktip90IOTbxoCTkIQAvD_BwE" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Kentucky boating license</a> about a month ago. Melody explains they originally started with runabouts. Life happened and it made getting a slip seem much more convenient. Besides, Clifford doesn’t what a pool, so the lake does just fine. Both Molley and Chad and Melody and Clifford talk about experiences like building a home and putting down flooring, which can seriously test the bonds of a marriage. What Advice They Would Offer to Someone Considering the Dock Life? Clifford quickly says, “Just do it!” Brody says, “Just come hang out with them.” It’ll definitely show you how much fun Dock Life can be. Melody mentions that coming down to the lake on the weekends is their vacation, rather than waiting all year for a week somewhere. It’s a life-style. Extended family will begin to figure out that time on the water is important to you. It all works out, but sometimes you have to take time to enjoy your investment. Clifford needs to go put on his costume for the competition. So, we wish them luck and might see them next year. Tim and Christine Join Us to Talk about Their Dock Crawl Experience Tim and Christine Cole are here for their first dock crawl. Christine wishes there were even more rows. Their slip is in the 300 row. They had a <a href="https://www.regalboats.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Regal Cruiser</a>, but now they have a houseboat and an <a href="https://eliminatorboat.com/" target="_blank" rel= "noopener">Eliminator</a> power boat. Tim and Christine have spent most of their lives on the water. They’re from Richmond, Indiana. They drive 4 and a half hours to get to Lake Cumberland. Tim and Christine try to make it down almost every weekend. They like to get to the lake on Thursdays and return home on Sundays. Tim explains that they met back in 1994 and used to go to <a href= "https://parks.ky.gov/burkesville/parks/resort/dale-hollow-lake-state-resort-park" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Dale Hollow</a> for roughly 6 years. Christine has known Sandy since middle school, so they decided to start coming to Lake Cumberland, instead of driving so far. Chad mentions that he’s been coming to the lake with Molley’s family for probably 30 years. Molley grew up on the water and Chad married into a lake family. Eventually, the decided to <a href= "https://directory.libsyn.com/episode/index/show/lakelifewithmolleyandchad/id/27388311" target="_blank" rel="noopener">buy a lake home</a> in the area and have never looked back. As the Dock Crawl party kicks in, the noise got pretty loud. They made the decision to pack it up and call it a night, at least for the podcast! That’s a wrap for this episode. We’d like to thank our friends and all of our new friends for guest hosting with us. We hope you found it helpful, insightful and maybe a little entertaining. Thanks for Listening! If you enjoyed this podcast, please consider sharing it with your social media friends. We hope to see you out there soon. Until next time, here’s to warm weather and calm waters! Don’t forget to subscribe!

September 14, 2023

Interview with the Owner of Lake Girl Apparel

Episode 30: Molley and Chad interview Missy Johnson, owner of Lake Girl Apparel. We’re going to talk about her brand and how it was a perfect fit, given Missy’s love for the water. Hey, if you’re going to enjoy the Lake Life, you should look good while you’re doing it, right? Be sure to listen to the end of the episode for a special offer! How Did Lake Girl Get Started? Missy lives in Minnesota (“the land of 10,000 lakes). <a href= "https://www.lakegirl.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Lake Girl</a> started in 2002, in Detroit Lakes, MN. The original founder, Peggy, founded the store and focused more on a wholesale business model. About 5 years ago, another company, LakeShirts purchased the company and took the Lake Girl brand nationwide. Molley comments that Lake Girl clothes are available in the ship store at the <a href="https://statedock.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">State Dock Marina</a> on Lake Cumberland, where she and Chad boat. She loves the quality and softness of the shirts and sweatshirts. Missy mentions how these products last forever, but people keep buying them because of the quality. How Did Missy Get Involved in the Lake Life? Missy begins my letting listeners know that there’s a lake everywhere you turn in Minnesota. The state’s nickname is, “The Land of 10,000 Lakes.” The Lake Life lifestyle is embraced throughout both the summer and the winter. During the warm months, people go boating and swimming. During the cold months, people are right back out there, ice fishing and ice skating. Missy admits she actually lives on a river, but that’s perfect because Lake Girl also has a <a href= "https://www.lakegirl.com/collections/rivergirl" target="_blank" rel="noopener">River Girl collection</a>. She tells a quick story about recently taking a friend kayaking on the river. The experience helped her friend to get over her fear of the water and now, she’s a River Girl. It’s part of the power a great experience on the water and the surrounding nature has to change a person’s life. Molley agrees. As soon as she and Chad get back on the lake, those deep breaths of fresh air melt away the stress and helps them to rebalance their busy lives. Chad talks about how this podcast got its start. They noticed there weren’t a lot of podcasts focusing on lake boating, which is their passion. It’s something for people who enjoy being out on the water having fun. There’s a huge community out there and Lake Life with Molley and Chad is providing a way for people to connect, learn and just enjoy life in general. It’s a big family. Molley adds that Chad tries to work in a boat ramp story on as many episodes as possible. That prompts Missy to admit that they spend time sitting back watching people try to put in or take out their boats, all the time. If you’d like to hear some funny stories, check out the following episodes: <a href= "https://directory.libsyn.com/episode/index/show/lakelifewithmolleyandchad/id/20193782" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Don’t Be That Guy</a>!, <a href= "https://directory.libsyn.com/episode/index/show/lakelifewithmolleyandchad/id/20346899" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Ramp Etiquette and Trailer Safety</a> and <a href= "https://directory.libsyn.com/episode/index/show/lakelifewithmolleyandchad/id/19260554" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Learn from Our Mistakes</a>. Has Missy Always Been a River Girl? Molley asks Missy about this, noting that it gets really cold, really fast in Minnesota. Missy agrees, but then describes the surreal experience of having an actual bonfire on the lake. It’s a wonderful advantage to having such cold weather. Another great reason Missy enjoys the colder weather is because it brings the opportunity to simply stand there and breath in that cold, fresh air while on or around the water. There’s nothing like it. Missy’s also looking forward to bundling up and paddling down the river to look at all of the autumn foliage and the wonderful colors. It’s actually going to be here first time and she’s taking the friend she mentioned earlier. They can’t wait! Missy grew up near the Mississippi river and it was always a place she loved because it allowed her to cleanse her mind. Water has always been part of her life. Ironically, it’s how she returns to feeling “grounded.” There’s a funny story about how Missy and her boyfriend got to enjoy a waterpark with a lazy river. After that, she told him she wanted him to build one for her. A week or so later, they found a house for sale on a slow-moving river. Now, her boyfriend often asks, “How’s this for a lazy river?” How Does Lake Girl Apparel Standout from the Competition? Missy starts by saying the Lake Girl is their brand and if you see clothing with that name, it came from them. They work with a specialty designer so the looks and products are able to change frequently. Currently, they launch roughly 4 different designs per month. They also have a <a href= "https://www.lakegirl.com/collections/impulse-kids" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Lake Baby brand</a>. It’s part of their Impulse Kids collection, which includes <a href= "https://www.lakegirl.com/collections/dockboy" target="_blank" rel= "noopener">Dockboy collection</a>, in addition to the River Girl collection, mentioned earlier. Missy returns to the important aspect of quality. She’s received tons of stories from customers who constantly wear the clothing, without wearing it out. It’s part of why, in her opinion, the Lake Girl brand enjoys so many repeat purchases from its loyal customer-base. Many of these customers love to visit their wholesale locations to see what’s new. Here’s a <a href= "https://www.lakegirl.com/pages/lakegirl-store-locator" target= "_blank" rel="noopener">link to the store locator</a>. Lake Girl Is About More than just Clothing Missy mentions that the brand’s best-seller is their <a href= "https://www.lakegirl.com/collections/accessories/Hats" target= "_blank" rel="noopener">All-American brand caps</a>. These are a customer favorite, year after year. Every lake girl has to have a hat on the lake. They’ve recently added <a href= "https://www.lakegirl.com/collections/accessories/Drinkware" target="_blank" rel="noopener">drinkware and mugs</a>. And, if you’re looking for more Lake Girl swag, check out the <a href= "https://www.lakegirl.com/collections/tried-true/magnet" target= "_blank" rel="noopener">magnets</a> and <a href= "https://www.lakegirl.com/collections/tried-true/keychain" target= "_blank" rel="noopener">keychains</a>. After all, ever girl knows it’s always about accessorizing, right? Missy also mentions their <a href= "https://www.lakegirl.com/collections/tried-true/stickers" target= "_blank" rel="noopener">waterproof, tear-proof stickers</a>. They’ll make it through the dishwasher. They’ll last on your car or take-along other surfaces. If you’re decorating your she-shed with a Lake Girl theme, don’t forget to pick up on of their <a href= "https://www.lakegirl.com/collections/tried-true/signs">signs</a> and a <a href= "https://www.lakegirl.com/collections/tried-true/bottle-opener" target="_blank" rel="noopener">bottle opener</a>. What Inspired Missy to Add the Lake Girl Brand to Her Company? Missy’s main company is <a href= "https://lakeshirts.com/" target="_blank" rel= "noopener">LakeShirts</a>. Truthfully, it kind of fell into place. The original Lake Girl warehouse was located across the street, so integrating the two made sense for the business, as well as the customers. Missy joined the LakeShirts company five years ago. She brought a lot of retail experience. Once the Lake Girl brand was added, it was a perfect fit for Missy (see what we did there?). Lake Girl has really benefitted from the infrastructure and reach that LakeShirts had already established in the market. Do the Employees Enjoy the Lake Life? Every chance they get. In fact, they just created a design, “Off the Clock, On the Dock!” Missy things the initial inventory was sold out just from staff purchases, even before it made it to the website. The company is full of lake enthusiasts who work and play together in their tight-knit community. There Really is a Detroit Lake The company is in Detroit Lakes, Minnesota. Missy estimates they have 5-7 lakes within a 15-mile radius. What’s the Biggest Recreational Activity in their Area? Fishing is incredibly popular, because it can be done year-round. People fish from the bank, wading near the shores, off boats and yes, through the ice. The boating season in the Detroit Lake area last about 3 months. Missy admits you can stretch it to 4.5 months, if you’re brave. Speaking of brave, they also have a polar plunge tradition. This is when people jump into the frigid water, during the winter. There’s a health benefit, but more importantly, they’ve turned it into a charity event. A Special Offer from Lake Girl Apparel Before we go, Missy wants to offer a special code for the listeners of this episode. Enter Mike and Molley into the Discount Code box during checkout, for free shipping off any order on the website. Connect and Learn More About Lake Lady Apparel: Website: <a href="https://www.lakegirl.com/" target="_blank" rel= "noopener">https://www.lakegirl.com/</a> Facebook: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/lakegirlclothing/" target= "_blank" rel= "noopener">https://www.facebook.com/lakegirlclothing/</a> Pinterest: <a href="https://www.pinterest.com/lakegirlinc/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://www.pinterest.com/lakegirlinc/</a> Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/lakegirl_inc/" target="_blank" rel= "noopener">https://www.instagram.com/lakegirl_inc/</a> That’s a wrap for this episode. We’d like to thank our friend Missy Johnson for guest hosting with us. We hope you found it helpful, insightful and maybe a little entertaining. Thanks for Listening! If you enjoyed this podcast, please consider sharing it with your social media friends. We hope to see you out there soon. Until next time, here’s to warm weather and calm waters! Don’t forget to subscribe!

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What is Lake Life With Molley And Chad Podcast?: Lake life with Molley and Chad is a podcast dedicated to Boating, Lake boating more specifically.

Our story begins when Molley's Dad purchased a 16ft Mark Twain tri-haul to spend weekends and days after work on the water with family and friends. Thus begins the love/hate relationship with boating for her. From days anchored out floating jamming on some Alabama (her Dad's favorite band) to slicing the glass-like water with a slalom ski as the sunsets over the dam.

Chad married into the lifestyle and now is either on the Heyday dragging their kids all over the lake every weekend or chilling on the pontoon. Most of their friends own boats of all types. They are basically on the water all weekend in the summer.

This Husband and Wife team has seen a lot over their 20+ years boating together and would like to share some laughs, some stories, and hopefully some peace of mind about boat ownership from top to bottom.
How often does this podcast release new episodes?: This podcast updates daily.
Where can I listen to this podcast?: This podcast is available on 4 platforms including Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and more. You can also use the RSS feed directly.
Does this podcast accept guests?: Yes, this podcast regularly features guests.

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