Law Lenz: Employment Law Done Right
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<p class="font-claude-response-body break-words whitespace-normal leading-[1.7]">You're going to have to make a call. But you're not sure it's the right one.</p> <p class="font-claude-response-body break-words whitespace-normal leading-[1.7]">That's the moment this podcast was built for.</p> <p class="font-claude-response-body break-words whitespace-normal leading-[1.7]">Employment Law Done Right is for HR professionals, people leaders, and employers in New Zealand who are in the thick of it. Not the theory of it. The 90-day trial period expiring this week. The performance process that got complicated the moment an employee disclosed a mental health condition. The disciplinary process where someone resigned midway and is now threatening a personal grievance.</p> <p class="font-claude-response-body break-words whitespace-normal leading-[1.7]">Hosted by Sanam Permal, a practising lawyer in New Zealand and Australia. She founded Law Lenz, an employment law training business, in 2023 and it started with this podcast. Every episode covers the real scenarios you face in plain English. Case breakdowns, legal updates, deep dives into the topics that keep you up at night.</p> <p class="font-claude-response-body break-words whitespace-normal leading-[1.7]">She's a lawyer. Just not your lawyer. Instead, she's here to give you the knowledge and skills to back yourself when it matters most.</p> <p class="font-claude-response-body break-words whitespace-normal leading-[1.7]">New episodes drop fortnightly. Visit lawlenz.co.nz</p>
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Recent Episodes
July 25, 2026
How to Run Your Next Disciplinary Meeting Properly
Very few employers walk into a disciplinary meeting having prepared questions. Host Sanam recently sat in on a disciplinary meeting from the other side of the table, supporting someone close to her rather than the employer. Accusatory language. No structure. Stacked allegations. This could've all been avoided if the employer knew how to run and handle the meeting...properly! There is plenty out there on how to prepare for a disciplinary meeting. There is almost nothing on how to actually run one once you are in the room. That is what this episode is for. In this episode Sanam covers: Why a disciplinary meeting is a fact finding mission The section 103A test, and the four things the ERA will check Important prep tips that make for a better meeting How to frame questions correctly and the four types of questions you need to know Meeting must haves and the mistakes that sink employers fastest The line to take away. The quality of your questions is the quality of your defence. Mentioned in this episode: Section 103A of the Employment Relations Act 2000, the test of justification Section 4 of the Employment Relations Act 2000, the duty of good faith Employment New Zealand guidance on resolving problems and disciplinary processes We do employment law differently at Law Lenz! How? Through unique workshops and hands-on training. On The Front Foot is open for booking now. It is built for managers and leaders who need to know what they can say and what they cannot before they are in the room. Out Of The Grey is for the HR teams already dealing with the curlier situations. Both at lawlenz.co.nz Check out the Law Lenz website lawlenz.co.nz Want to book a workshop? Book a Clarity Call HERE! Don't miss our updates and legal insights! Sign up to the Law Lenz Newsletter! CLICK HERE! Follow Sanam on LinkedIn for key employment law updates. Got questions? Email them to ask@lawlenz.co.nz Disclaimer: The content presented in this episode is for informational purposes only and should not be considered as legal advice. The host does not assume any liability for actions taken based on the content of this podcast. While the host is a lawyer, they are not your lawyer and the information provided is based on general legal information. This podcast does not create a solicitor-client relationship.While we strive to keep the information accurate and up-to-date as at the date of each episode, laws and regulations may change, and the content of this podcast may not reflect the most current legal standards or interpretations. Listeners are encouraged to consult with a qualified New Zealand legal professional for advice tailored to their specific situation.
July 10, 2026
Part 3 - ERAA 2026: What's Considered Serious Misconduct & Contribution Today?
An employee derails a disciplinary process. Or maybe they stole from you and you can prove it. But what if you missed a step in the process? Under the old law, one missed step could still have cost you the case anyway. This is Part 3 of our three part series on the Employment Relations Amendment Act (ERAA). Since 21 February 2026, the same reforms that reshaped contractor law have also rewritten what an employee gets awarded when their own conduct helped cause the grievance. Join host Sanam as she breaks down the new two-tier contribution structure. From what changes when an employee's conduct contributed to their own dismissal, to what the cases are already showing us, all the way through to the questions you sent through for us to answer. In this episode we cover: The two-tier contribution structure introduced this year Section 123B, the full remedy exclusion for serious misconduct contribution Why lost wages can now be reduced by up to 100% The new obstruction factor under Section 103A and the end of "minor" procedural defects What "deliberate" means when it comes to serious misconduct, and what the case law is already showing Why vague policies are now a genuine liability Your questions on obstruction, procedural gaps, and defining serious misconduct in your own agreements Mentioned in this episode: The Employment Relations Amendment Act 2026, which sets out the two-tier contribution and remedy structure and the updated justification test CMA Law's case note, What Counts as Deliberate: The Johnstone Case and the New s 123B, covering Insight New Zealand 2007 Ltd v Johnstone [2026] NZEmpC 101 Frontline Law's commentary, A Significant Shift: Understanding the 2026 New Zealand Employment Law Overhaul, on the risk of the new remedy structure creating a licence to be sloppy RNZ's coverage of the Qube Ports case, ERA finds Qube wrongly fired port workers who refused to work with a colleague they deemed unsafe Check out the Law Lenz website lawlenz.co.nz Want to book a workshop? Book a Clarity Call HERE! Don't miss our updates and legal insights! Sign up to the Law Lenz Newsletter! CLICK HERE! Follow Sanam on LinkedIn for key employment law updates. Got questions? Email them to ask@lawlenz.co.nz Disclaimer: The content presented in this episode is for informational purposes only and should not be considered as legal advice. The host does not assume any liability for actions taken based on the content of this podcast. While the host is a lawyer, they are not your lawyer and the information provided is based on general legal information. This podcast does not create a solicitor-client relationship.While we strive to keep the information accurate and up-to-date as at the date of each episode, laws and regulations may change, and the content of this podcast may not reflect the most current legal standards or interpretations. Listeners are encouraged to consult with a qualified New Zealand legal professional for advice tailored to their specific situation.
July 1, 2026
Part 2 - ERAA 2026: Gateway Test for Contractors & 30 Day Rule Changes
A contractor gets hurt on a job. He claims he was actually an employee. A single missing document decides the approach in 2026. This is Part 2 of our three part series on the Employment Relations Amendment Act (ERAA). On 21 February 2026, the biggest shake up to contractor law in 25 years came into force. Join host Sanam as she breaks down the new gateway test. From what's changed, to what the cases are already showing us, all the way through to the questions you sent through for us to answer. In this episode Sanam covers: When the gateway test applies The five gateway criteria and what each one actually requires Why a written agreement alone will not save you What happens when a contractor fails the gateway test Subcontractor vetting, and where the line sits The end of the 30 day collective coverage rule for new employees Your questions on set hours, exclusivity clauses, and subcontracting Mentioned in this episode: The Employment Relations Amendment Act 2026, which sets out the specified contractor gateway test and removes the 3 day collective coverage rule Quigg Partners' overview, Employment Relations Amendment Act 2026, covering the five gateway criteria in full Stuff's coverage of the marble slab case, The gateway test was initially used before applying the old test. Check out the Law Lenz website lawlenz.co.nz Want to book a workshop? Send your inquiry through HERE! Don't miss our updates and legal insights! Sign up to the Law Lenz Newsletter! CLICK HERE! Follow Sanam on LinkedIn for key employment law updates. Got questions? Email them to ask@lawlenz.co.nz Disclaimer: The content presented in this episode is for informational purposes only and should not be considered as legal advice. The host does not assume any liability for actions taken based on the content of this podcast. While the host is a lawyer, they are not your lawyer and the information provided is based on general legal information. This podcast does not create a solicitor-client relationship.While we strive to keep the information accurate and up-to-date as at the date of each episode, laws and regulations may change, and the content of this podcast may not reflect the most current legal standards or interpretations. Listeners are encouraged to consult with a qualified New Zealand legal professional for advice tailored to their specific situation.
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- What is Law Lenz: Employment Law Done Right?
<p class="font-claude-response-body break-words whitespace-normal leading-[1.7]">You're going to have to make a call. But you're not sure it's the right one.</p> <p class="font-claude-response-body break-words whitespace-normal leading-[1.7]">That's the moment this podcast was built for.</p> <p class="font-claude-response-body break-words whitespace-normal leading-[1.7]">Employment Law Done Right is for HR professionals, people leaders, and employers in New Zealand who are in the thick of it. Not the theory of it. The 90-day trial period expiring this week. The performance process that got complicated the moment an employee disclosed a mental health condition. The disciplinary process where someone resigned midway and is now threatening a personal grievance.</p> <p class="font-claude-response-body break-words whitespace-normal leading-[1.7]">Hosted by Sanam Permal, a practising lawyer in New Zealand and Australia. She founded Law Lenz, an employment law training business, in 2023 and it started with this podcast. Every episode covers the real scenarios you face in plain English. Case breakdowns, legal updates, deep dives into the topics that keep you up at night.</p> <p class="font-claude-response-body break-words whitespace-normal leading-[1.7]">She's a lawyer. Just not your lawyer. Instead, she's here to give you the knowledge and skills to back yourself when it matters most.</p> <p class="font-claude-response-body break-words whitespace-normal leading-[1.7]">New episodes drop fortnightly. Visit lawlenz.co.nz</p> - How often does this podcast release new episodes?
This podcast updates weekly.
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