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Lead Gen in the Wild

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by Adam Yaeger

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Lead Gen in the Wild is a marketing podcast for CMOs, revenue leaders, and cross-functional executives responsible for measurable growth. Just like llamas thrive in the wild, we believe strong demand engines are built and tested in the real world. Each episode features candid conversations with leaders building demand inside real companies, unpacking what is actually working across paid social, paid search, SEO, GEO, LinkedIn, Reddit, email, partnerships, and AI. Where growth strategy is challenged, sharpened, and proven. Less noise. More signal. Real growth.

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Episode thumbnail for 4: ChatGPT Is the New Google. Is Your Brand Showing Up?

July 25, 2026

4: ChatGPT Is the New Google. Is Your Brand Showing Up?

<p>► Eliminate the Guesswork With Our Free Marketing Budget Calculator:<a href="https://www.llamaleadgen.com/blog/marketing-budget-calculator/"> <u>https://www.llamaleadgen.com/blog/marketing-budget-calculator/</u></a></p><p><br></p><p>In this episode, host Adam Yaeger, Founder &amp; CEO of Llama Lead Gen, sits down with Konstantinos Ntoukakis, Director of SEO &amp; AI Search at Llama Lead Gen, to untangle how AI is reshaping search and where GEO, AEO, and AIO actually fit into a modern SEO strategy.</p><p><br></p><p>Konstantinos breaks down why AI features are absorbing bottom-funnel decision queries that used to belong to Google, walks through the prompt library framework LLG uses to build a research-backed GEO strategy for new clients, and explains why Reddit has become one of the most valuable trust signals for LLMs like ChatGPT.</p><p><br></p><p>🔔 Subscribe to @llamaleadgen for practical B2B growth marketing strategies delivered straight to your feed.</p><p><br></p><p>Here&#39;s what we&#39;ll cover in this episode:</p><p>[02:16] How AI features are absorbing bottom-funnel decision queries that used to belong to Google</p><p>[05:49] Breaking down GEO, AEO, and AIO, and why the industry is settling on GEO</p><p>[09:05] What makes a good ChatGPT strategy, and why it&#39;s the biggest AI traffic source across accounts</p><p>[15:49] The prompt library framework LLG builds first for every GEO client</p><p>[18:39] Translating keyword research into prompt research, and building around buyer personas</p><p>[20:31] Why Reddit exploded as an LLM source, and the OpenAI and Google content deals behind it</p><p>[24:54] The first three to five steps of a GEO client onboarding process</p><p>[27:40] The two things you can actually measure in GEO: site traffic and prompt tracking</p><p>[36:27] A client case study on tracking sentiment and accuracy through a fast-moving product launch</p><p>[38:26] Where AI driven discovery is heading over the next six months to a year, including agentic booking</p><p><br></p><p>🔗 Visit our podcast page for all episodes, and additional content:<a href="https://www.llamaleadgen.com/podcast/"> <u>https://www.llamaleadgen.com/podcast/</u></a></p><p><br></p><p>👉 More Episodes to Explore:</p><p><br></p><p>Ep. 2: The B2B Channel Playbook: Where to Spend, What to Track, and Why Your CRM Is Lying to You<a href="https://youtu.be/ByPRl8qEXY4"> <u>https://youtu.be/ByPRl8qEXY4</u></a></p><p><br></p><p>Ep. 3: Signal Over Noise: Making High-Stakes Marketing Decisions Without Data Dumping on Leadership<a href="https://youtu.be/Pdjdsn14tsk"> <u>https://youtu.be/Pdjdsn14tsk</u></a></p><p><br></p><p>🖥️ Unlock Expert Knowledge Anytime, Anywhere With Our Case Studies, and Marketing Resources:</p><p><br></p><ol><li><p>SEO for ChatGPT: Essential Strategies for B2B &amp; SaaS Brands<a href="https://www.llamaleadgen.com/blog/seo-for-chatgpt/"> <u>https://www.llamaleadgen.com/blog/seo-for-chatgpt/</u></a></p></li><li><p>How to Use Reddit for LLM Optimization (Without Manipulation)<a href="https://www.llamaleadgen.com/blog/reddit-marketing-for-llm-optimization/"> <u>https://www.llamaleadgen.com/blog/reddit-marketing-for-llm-optimization/</u></a></p></li><li><p>Google Ads for AI Overviews: A Strategic Guide for Marketing Leaders<a href="https://www.llamaleadgen.com/blog/google-ads-for-ai-overviews/"> <u>https://www.llamaleadgen.com/blog/google-ads-for-ai-overviews/</u></a></p><p><br></p></li></ol><p>🔗 Connect With Llama Lead Gen </p><p>🌐 Website:<a href="https://www.llamaleadgen.com/"> <u>https://www.llamaleadgen.com/</u></a> </p><p>🔈 Podcasts:<a href="https://www.llamaleadgen.com/podcast/"> <u>https://www.llamaleadgen.com/podcast/</u></a> </p><p>📁 Marketing Case Studies:<a href="https://www.llamaleadgen.com/case-studies/"> <u>https://www.llamaleadgen.com/case-studies/</u></a> </p><p><br></p><p>📞 Book a Free Discovery Call (no strings attached):<a href="https://www.llamaleadgen.com/talk-to-a-llama/"> <u>https://www.llamaleadgen.com/talk-to-a-llama/</u></a></p><p><br></p><p>#GEO #GenerativeEngineOptimization #AISEO #ChatGPTSEO #AnswerEngineOptimization #B2BMarketing #B2BSaaS #SEOStrategy #RedditMarketing #AIMarketing #DigitalMarketing #B2BPodcast #MarketingLeadership #SearchMarketing #LLMVisibility</p>

Episode thumbnail for 3: Signal Over Noise: Making High-Stakes Marketing Decisions Without Data Dumping on Leadership

May 26, 2026

3: Signal Over Noise: Making High-Stakes Marketing Decisions Without Data Dumping on Leadership

<p>In this episode, host Adam Yaeger, Founder &amp; CEO of Llama Lead Gen, sits down with Trevor Misina, a seasoned B2B marketer with over 20 years of experience, to break down how veteran marketers communicate data and decisions upward without losing the room. </p><p>The conversation tackles one of the most persistent gaps in marketing leadership: the disconnect between what marketers measure and what executives actually care about. Trevor outlines his north star framework for cutting through data noise, arguing that campaigns should only move forward when at least three distinct signals align. </p><p>He walks through a real product launch scenario to show why gutting top-of-funnel spend kills pipeline momentum downstream, even when mid and bottom metrics look healthy in the short term. He also makes the case for doing postmortems on spectacular years, not just bad ones, to identify which one or two products are actually driving the entire pipeline.</p><p>🔔 Subscribe to Lead Gen In The Wild for practical B2B growth marketing strategies.</p><p>Here's what we'll cover in this episode:</p><p>[00:54] Trevor's path from networking to SaaS to digital marketing and Inc. 500</p><p>[02:03] Making high-stakes decisions with incomplete data: minimizing risk and defining a northstar</p><p>[03:10] Getting executives and teams aligned on the same metrics</p><p>[05:06] Three-signal rule: how to know when you have enough data to launch a campaign</p><p>[07:20] Top-of-funnel neglect: why cutting awareness spend kills pipeline momentum</p><p>[11:04] Postmortems on success, not just failure: finding what actually drove a great quarter</p><p>[12:24] Stop data dumping: leading with conclusions and using analogies executives remember</p><p>[14:49] What separates a true agency partner from a task-taking vendor</p><p>[19:19] AI is not a fad: why humans using AI will replace those who don't</p><p>[25:00] NotebookLM and agentic workflows: querying your own data and automating report pipelines</p><p>[30:45] LLM comparison in practice: ChatGPT for daily use, Gemini for visuals, Claude for development</p><p>[36:14] Prompting for analysis: give northstar context first, then break prompts into stages</p><p>👉 More Episodes to Explore:</p><p>Ep. 1: How to Justify Rising Marketing Costs to Your Leadership Team &amp; Win Budget Conversations <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@llamaleadgen" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">https://open.spotify.com/episode/2Uh2XnNoIByOkyLT32kDia?si=g47AdE3HTdu_SFIPl6-7hg</a></p><p>Ep. 2: The B2B Channel Playbook: Where to Spend, What to Track, and Why Your CRM Is Lying to You <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@llamaleadgen" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">https://open.spotify.com/episode/04BLCLRrBh7nV2rAzrGCpl?si=0ylxh-IYRvSdxM3Zmm63KA</a></p><p>🖥️ Unlock Expert Knowledge Anytime, Anywhere With Our Case Studies, and Marketing Resources:</p><p>1. B2B Marketing KPIs Your CEO Wants to See (No Vanity Metrics)<a href="https://www.llamaleadgen.com/blog/b2b-marketing-kpis/" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">https://www.llamaleadgen.com/blog/b2b-marketing-kpis/</a></p><p>2. SaaS Marketing Budget Allocation Blueprint for High-Growth CMOs<a href="https://www.llamaleadgen.com/blog/saas-marketing-budget-allocation/" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">https://www.llamaleadgen.com/blog/saas-marketing-budget-allocation/</a></p><p>3. How to Build a Scalable B2B Marketing Funnel Step-by-Step<a href="https://www.llamaleadgen.com/blog/how-to-build-a-scalable-b2b-marketing-funnel/" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">https://www.llamaleadgen.com/blog/how-to-build-a-scalable-b2b-marketing-funnel/</a></p><p>4. Mastering B2B SaaS Marketing With The Full Funnel Approach<a href="https://www.llamaleadgen.com/blog/ultimate-guide-to-b2b-saas-marketing/" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">https://www.llamaleadgen.com/blog/ultimate-guide-to-b2b-saas-marketing/</a></p><p>5. The CMO's Guide To Predictable PPC B2B Lead Generation<a href="https://www.llamaleadgen.com/blog/ppc-b2b-lead-generation/" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer"> https://www.llamaleadgen.com/blog/ppc-b2b-lead-generation/</a></p><p>6. How to Allocate Ad Budget For Higher Returns As a B2B CMO<a href="https://www.llamaleadgen.com/blog/ads-budgeting/" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer"> https://www.llamaleadgen.com/blog/ads-budgeting/</a></p><p>🔗 Connect With Llama Lead Gen</p><p>🌐 Website: <a href="https://www.llamaleadgen.com/" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">https://www.llamaleadgen.com/</a></p><p>🔈 Podcasts: <a href="https://www.llamaleadgen.com/podcast/" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">https://www.llamaleadgen.com/podcast/</a></p><p>📁 Marketing Case Studies: <a href="https://www.llamaleadgen.com/case-studies/" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">https://www.llamaleadgen.com/case-studies/</a></p><p>📞 Book a Free Discovery Call (no strings attached): <a href="https://www.llamaleadgen.com/talk-to-a-llama/" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">https://www.llamaleadgen.com/talk-to-a-llama/</a></p><p>#B2BMarketing #MarketingLeadership #DataDrivenMarketing #MarketingStrategy #B2BPodcast #MarketingAnalytics #ExecutiveCommunication #DemandGeneration #PipelineMarketing #MarketingMetrics #CMO #RevenueMarketing #MarketingOperations #GrowthMarketing #DigitalMarketing #MarketingTips</p>

Episode thumbnail for 2: The B2B Channel Playbook: Where to Spend, What to Track, and Why Your CRM Is Lying to You

April 17, 2026

2: The B2B Channel Playbook: Where to Spend, What to Track, and Why Your CRM Is Lying to You

<p>► Eliminate the Guesswork With Our Free Marketing Budget Calculator: https://www.llamaleadgen.com/blog/marketing-budget-calculator/ </p><p>In this episode, host Adam Yaeger, Founder &amp; CEO of Llama Lead Gen, sits down with Dominick Cabal, Director of Marketing at Llama Lead Gen, to break down how B2B marketers can build and manage an omnichannel strategy that actually drives revenue.</p><p>Adam and Dom cover why CRM data is the only attribution source worth trusting, how to assign each channel its proper funnel role, and why AI SEO and GEO are becoming a necessary addition to the B2B marketing stack alongside paid search, LinkedIn, and email.</p><p>🔔 Subscribe to @llamaleadgen for practical B2B growth marketing strategies delivered straight to your feed. Here’s what we’ll cover in this episode: </p><p>00:07 Introduction and guest welcome: Dom Cabal, Director of Marketing at Llama Lead Gen </p><p>01:04 Best B2B channels: paid search, LinkedIn, and AI SEO/GEO entering the mix</p><p>02:12 Why omni-channel attribution is fundamentally messy across platforms</p><p>03:57 CRM as the single source of truth: Dom&#39;s two-pronged attribution framework</p><p>05:06 Using each channel for its specific funnel role, not for everything</p><p>25:27 Late-stage decision channels: review sites (G2, Capterra) and AI SEO</p><p>26:34 The case for email marketing as a top-three B2B conversion channel</p><p>28:05 The return of publisher direct buys and programmatic&#39;s decline </p><p>29:21 Full channel stack recommendation for a generic B2B brand </p><p>30:04 CRM hygiene as a non-negotiable foundation, not just another channel</p><p>🔗 Visit our podcast landing page for all episodes, and additional content: https://www.llamaleadgen.com/podcast/ </p><p>👉 More Episodes to Explore:Ep. 1: How to Justify Rising Marketing Costs to Your Leadership Team &amp; Win Budget Conversations https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkvrG1-gSAs </p><p>🖥️ Unlock Expert Knowledge Anytime, Anywhere With Our Case Studies, and Marketing Resources:</p><p>1. Structured Reddit Engagement Turned Negative Brand Sentiment into 77k Views and AI Search Visibility [Case Study] https://www.llamaleadgen.com/case-studies/reddit-marketing-for-brand-sentiment-and-llm-visibility/ </p><p>2. Why Accurate ChatGPT Representation Wins B2B Deals Before a Landing Page Appears [Guide] https://www.llamaleadgen.com/blog/seo-for-chatgpt/ </p><p>3. CodeSignal Beat LinkedIn and Indeed for Top SEO Rankings in Technical Recruiting [Case Study] https://www.llamaleadgen.com/case-studies/saas-seo-case-study/ </p><p>4. How Healthread Built 2,350 Monthly Reddit Sessions and LLM Visibility with 10 Hours of Work Per Week [Case Study] https://www.llamaleadgen.com/case-studies/reddit-community-management/ </p><p>5. CodeSignal&#39;s Google Ads CPL Dropped from $1,000 to $135 Across a Two-Year Five-Campaign Strategy [Case Study] https://www.llamaleadgen.com/case-studies/google-ads/ </p><p>6. How Omnichannel Marketing Connects Paid Channels, CRM, and Physical Touchpoints for B2B Brands [Blog] https://www.llamaleadgen.com/blog/omnichannel-marketing-guide/ </p><p>Connect With Llama Lead Gen:🌐 Website: https://www.llamaleadgen.com/ </p><p>🔈 Podcast: https://www.llamaleadgen.com/podcast/ </p><p>📁 Explore Llama Lead Gen&#39;s marketing case studies: https://www.llamaleadgen.com/case-studies/ </p><p>📞 Talk to a Llama (Free Discovery Call): https://www.llamaleadgen.com/talk-to-a-llama/</p><p>#B2BMarketing #MarketingPodcast #DemandGeneration #OmnichannelMarketing #GenerativeEngineOptimization #DigitalMarketing #PaidSearch #MarketingStrategy #LeadGeneration #B2BSaaS #CMO #GrowthMarketing #MarketingOps #RevenueMarketing #AIMarketing</p>

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What is Lead Gen in the Wild?

Lead Gen in the Wild is a marketing podcast for CMOs, revenue leaders, and cross-functional executives responsible for measurable growth.

Just like llamas thrive in the wild, we believe strong demand engines are built and tested in the real world.

Each episode features candid conversations with leaders building demand inside real companies, unpacking what is actually working across paid social, paid search, SEO, GEO, LinkedIn, Reddit, email, partnerships, and AI.

Where growth strategy is challenged, sharpened, and proven. Less noise. More signal. Real growth.

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