Leadership lessons don’t need to be reserved for formal classroom and online trainings, they can be extracted from the stories we encounter every day. Join the Center for Creative Leadership’s Ren Washington and Allison Barr as they uncover and highlight the leadership lessons in today’s headlines and popular culture.
In this episode of Lead With That, Ren and Allison discuss how organizations can shift from crisis reaction to collective sustainable adaptability in today’s turbulent climate. The biggest challenge many leaders face is leading organizations through complex crisis and chaotic disruption. Whether faced with adapting to ever-changing circumstances, or the fallout from economic instability, leaders are juggling challenges that reactive behaviors and process pivots are unable to simply resolve. To ensure long-term success, organizations must rethink adaptability itself and adjust their leadership to address the needs of the future.
Read our insights on how organizations can shift their organization’s culture, individual capacities, and collective capabilities to thrive amid disruption.
What to Explore Next:
Reinvention Through Disruption: Moving From Perpetual Crisis to Collective Adaptability - https://www.ccl.org/guides/perpetual-crisis-leadership-in-disruption/
Vertical vs. Horizontal Development - https://www.ccl.org/articles/leading-effectively-articles/developing-talent-youre-probably-missing-vertical-development/
Can You Identify Your Organization’s Leadership Culture? - https://www.ccl.org/articles/leading-effectively-articles/whats-your-leadership-culture/
Related Solutions:
Leading Through Uncertainty- https://www.ccl.org/leadership-challenges/leadership-through-uncertainty/
Strategic Thinking Training for Leaders- https://www.ccl.org/leadership-solutions/leadership-topics/thinking-acting-strategically/
Organizational Culture- https://www.ccl.org/leadership-challenges/organizational-culture/
12 Jun 2025
Expanding Capabilities Through Talent Development
Allison and Ren explore talent development, emphasizing adaptability and learning cultures to equip leaders for future challenges and build strong teams, offering insights into actionable strategies.
8 May 2025
What the Papal Conclave Teaches Us about Leadership
In this episode of Lead With That, Ren and Allison discuss a historic chapter in modern leadership: the papal conclave. After the passing of Pope Francis this April, the world has watched in anticipation wondering which leader will be elected to carry on his legacy. Known for his authenticity and humility, his approach redefined traditional papal leadership and set the stage for those after him.
Though the papal election process is centuries old, the character, vision, and leadership qualities of the next Pope will have a profound impact on the future and feel more important than ever. Ren and Allison discuss what we can learn from this historic conclave, and lead with that.
What to Explore Next:
Purpose in Leadership: Why & How - https://www.ccl.org/articles/leading-effectively-articles/purpose-in-leadership-why-how/
What Is Authentic Leadership, and Why Does It Matter? - https://www.ccl.org/articles/leading-effectively-articles/authenticity-1-idea-3-facts-5-tips/
Direction + Alignment + Commitment (DAC) = Leadership - https://www.ccl.org/articles/leading-effectively-articles/make-leadership-happen-with-dac-framework/
Related Solutions:
Authentic Leadership Training - https://www.ccl.org/leadership-solutions/leadership-topics/authentic-leadership/
Leading Through Change Training - https://www.ccl.org/leadership-solutions/leadership-topics/leading-through-change/
Organizational Culture - https://www.ccl.org/leadership-challenges/organizational-culture/
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