The Leaders of Transformation is a podcast, a community, and a movement. Want to build a purpose-based business? Transform people's lives? Make a greater positive impact in the world? Every week our host Nicole Jansen interviews transformative business leaders and difference makers who are changing the world one conversation at a time. Tune in to hear inspiring stories of leadership, transformation, overcoming obstacles, and global impact. From transforming the way we do business and relate with others, to freeing women and children from human trafficking, and protecting our planet, these leaders of transformation will inspire and equip you to be the difference maker and world changer you are capable of being. Subscribe/follow us to hear all the latest episodes and get your weekly boost!
Leaders Of Transformation
Claim This Podcastby Nicole Jansen, Leadership Coach | Business Mentor | Change Maker
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The Leaders of Transformation is a podcast, a community, and a movement. Want to build a purpose-based business? Transform people's lives? Make a greater positive impact in the world? Every week our host Nicole Jansen interviews transformative business leaders and difference makers who are changing the world one conversation at a time. Tune in to hear inspiring stories of leadership, transformation, overcoming obstacles, and global impact. From transforming the way we do business and relate with others, to freeing women and children from human trafficking, and protecting our planet, these leaders of transformation will inspire and equip you to be the difference maker and world changer you are capable of being. Subscribe/follow us to hear all the latest episodes and get your weekly boost!
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Recent Episodes
July 28, 2026
556: The Hidden Trust Tax: Why Great Organizations Break as They Scale with Debbie Simmons
<p class="MsoNormal"><strong>Is your organization's biggest growth challenge really strategy - or is it a hidden trust problem that's quietly slowing everything down?</strong></p> <p class="MsoNormal">As organizations grow, complexity increases. Decisions slow down, communication breaks down, and leaders often find themselves becoming the bottleneck without realizing why.</p> <p class="MsoNormal">In this episode, Nicole Jansen sits down with Debbie Simmons – community activist, business leader, wife, mother of nine adopted children, devoted follower of Jesus Christ, and author of <a href="https://architectureoftrust.co">The Architecture of Trust</a> - to explore why trust isn't just a leadership value; it's the operating system that allows organizations to scale.</p> <p class="MsoNormal">Debbie introduces her Architecture of Trust Framework, revealing how leadership alignment, decision clarity, and execution reliability create organizations that thrive under pressure instead of breaking apart. Drawing from decades of leadership experience, personal tragedy, and deep faith, she shares practical strategies to eliminate the "hidden trust tax" that costs organizations time, energy, and impact.</p> <p class="MsoNormal">Whether you lead a business, nonprofit, team, or even a family, this conversation offers timeless principles for building stronger foundations that last.</p> <p class="MsoNormal"><strong>What We Discuss in This Episode</strong></p> <ul> <li class="MsoNormal">Why trust - not strategy - is often the real limiting factor to organizational growth</li> <li class="MsoNormal">The hidden signs that trust is breaking down inside your organization</li> <li class="MsoNormal">Why leaders unknowingly become the bottleneck as organizations scale</li> <li class="MsoNormal">The three pillars of the Architecture of Trust framework</li> <li class="MsoNormal">How leadership alignment creates organizational momentum</li> <li class="MsoNormal">Why decision clarity eliminates confusion and costly rework</li> <li class="MsoNormal">The importance of execution reliability for sustainable growth</li> <li class="MsoNormal">Understanding the "hidden trust tax" that's draining your organization</li> <li class="MsoNormal">How to create a "trust dividend" that accelerates growth and impact</li> <li class="MsoNormal">Why most organizations have a structure problem—not a people problem</li> <li class="MsoNormal">How awareness becomes the first step toward transformation</li> <li class="MsoNormal">Lessons from building a multimillion-dollar nonprofit</li> <li class="MsoNormal">Debbie's personal story of loss, adoption, and discovering purpose through pain</li> <li class="MsoNormal">Why asking "Why?" often keeps leaders stuck - and a better question to ask instead</li> <li class="MsoNormal">Applying trust principles to leadership, business, family, and faith</li> </ul> <p class="MsoNormal"><strong>Highlights / YouTube Chapter Titles</strong></p> <p class="MsoNormal">00:00 – Why Leaders Get Stuck as Organizations Grow<br /> 02:30 – The First Signs of Broken Trust<br /> 09:58 – The Three Pillars of the Architecture of Trust<br /> 13:03 – People Problems or Structure Problems?<br /> 16:22 – Where Leaders Should Start Fixing Trust<br /> 20:14 – The Hidden Trust Tax Costing Your Organization<br /> 24:48 – Personal Tragedy That Changed Everything<br /> 29:15 – Stop Asking "Why?" Start Asking This Instead<br /> 32:39 – Applying the Architecture of Trust to Yourself<br /> 41:28 – Resources and Final Leadership Takeaways</p> <p class="MsoNormal"><strong>Memorable Quotes</strong></p> <ul> <li class="MsoNormal">"What got you here may actually limit you from reaching your next level of success."</li> <li class="MsoNormal">"Most of the time it's not a people problem - it's a structure problem."</li> <li class="MsoNormal">"The hidden trust tax shows up in rework, delays, unnecessary meetings, and slow decisions."</li> <li class="MsoNormal">"When the pressure goes up, trust is revealed."</li> <li class="MsoNormal">"If you disappeared for 30 days, would your organization operate the same way?"</li> </ul> <p><strong>Episode Show Notes and Resources:</strong> <a href= "https://leadersoftransformation.com/podcast/leadership/556-the-hidden-trust-tax-why-great-organizations-break-as-they-scale-with-debbie-simmons/"> https://leadersoftransformation.com/podcast/leadership/556-the-hidden-trust-tax-why-great-organizations-break-as-they-scale-with-debbie-simmons/</a> </p> <p class="MsoNormal" style= "mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"> <strong><span style= "font-family: 'Aptos',sans-serif; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-bidi;"> Check out our complete library of episodes and other leadership resources here:</span></strong> <a href= "https://leadersoftransformation.com">https://leadersoftransformation.com</a></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style= "mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"> ________</p> <p class="MsoNormal" style= "mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"> <span class= "yt-core-attributed-string--link-inherit-color"><span style= "font-family: 'Segoe UI Emoji',sans-serif; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Segoe UI Emoji'; color: #131313; border: none windowtext 1.0pt; mso-border-alt: none windowtext 0in; padding: 0in;"> 📣</span> <span style= "color: #131313; border: none windowtext 1.0pt; mso-border-alt: none windowtext 0in; padding: 0in;"> SUBSCRIBE to the Leaders of Transformation Podcast </span></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto;"><span style= "font-size: 10.5pt; line-height: 107%; font-family: 'Segoe UI Emoji',sans-serif; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Segoe UI Emoji'; color: #131313;"> 👇</span> <span style= "color: #131313; border: none windowtext 1.0pt; mso-border-alt: none windowtext 0in; padding: 0in;"> CONNECT with Nicole Jansen on Social Media </span></p> <p style="background: white; margin: 0in 0in 12.0pt 0in;"> <span style= "font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Cambria Math',serif; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Cambria Math'; color: black;"> ▶</span><span style= "font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Aptos',sans-serif; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; color: black;">︎ </span><span style="color: black; mso-color-alt: windowtext;"><a href="https://www.youtube.com/c/NicoleJansen"><span style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Aptos',sans-serif; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-theme-font: major-fareast; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; color: black;">YOUTUBE</span></a></span></p> <p style="background: white; margin: 0in 0in 12.0pt 0in;"> <span style= "font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Cambria Math',serif; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Cambria Math'; color: black;"> ▶</span><span style= "font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Aptos',sans-serif; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; color: black;">︎ </span><span style="color: black; mso-color-alt: windowtext;"><a href="https://www.instagram.com/nicolejanseninc"><span style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Aptos',sans-serif; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-theme-font: major-fareast; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; color: black;">INSTAGRAM</span></a></span></p> <p style="background: white; margin: 0in 0in 12.0pt 0in;"> <span style= "font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Cambria Math',serif; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Cambria Math'; color: black;"> ▶︎</span><span style= "font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Aptos',sans-serif; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; 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font-family: 'Aptos',sans-serif; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-theme-font: major-fareast; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; color: black;">LINKEDIN</span></a></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
July 7, 2026
555: Rebuild Stronger: Turning Disaster into Trust, Unity, and Hope with Deke Copenhaver
Host Nicole Jansen interviews former mayor and leadership coach Deke Copenhaver on rebuilding communities stronger after disaster through trust and collaboration.
June 23, 2026
554: Super Multipliers: How To Multiply Great Leaders Four Generations Deep with Mac Lake
Host Nicole Jansen interviews leadership development expert Mac Lake about his book "Super Multiplier," revealing how to intentionally develop leaders who create a lasting legacy four generations deep.
557 total episodes available with 79 transcripts
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