Leadership, AND… is a podcast for leaders who are ready to stop choosing between extremes AND start embracing the full picture.
Leadership can feel heavy.
The pressure to perform.
The expectation to have answers.
The tension between who you are AND who you’re becoming.
This podcast explores the real, human side of leadership.
The doubts, the growth, the relationships, AND the responsibility that comes with it.
Hosted by Josh Donovan, CEO of Lighthouse Institute, AND Patrick Ibarra, each episode brings honest conversations AND human-centered leadership tools that go beyond theory.
Because leadership isn’t just what you do at work. It’s how you show up everywhere.
Leadership, AND… creates space for conversations that go beyond the workplace.
Into your relationships.
With your parents AND your kids.
With your co-workers, your friends, AND your community.
At Lighthouse, we believe better humans make better leaders.
And that leadership is not a role you play, it’s a way of being.
This is an invitation to see the whole person.
To lead with light.
To live with love.
To hold both strength AND vulnerability, clarity AND curiosity, ambition AND presence.
If you’re ready to grow as a leader AND as a human, you’re in the right place.
Let’s Go Shine Bright ✨
Episode 11: Leadership, AND...Living Your Purpose with Jim Ferree
What changes when you stop seeing someone as an obstacle and start seeing the human in front of you? In this episode, Josh and Patrick sit down with Lighthouse facilitator Jim Ferree for a conversation about the experiences that shaped his life, the relationships that changed him, and the daily practice of becoming the person he wants to be. Jim shares his journey from ministry, to a 26-year career in law enforcement in Phoenix, and eventually to Lighthouse. Through stories from interview r...
15 Sept 2026
Episode 10: Leadership, AND...Soulcraft & Stewardship with Tim Rhoades
In this special tenth episode, Josh and Patrick sit down with Tim Rhoades--the original founder of Lighthouse Institute, Josh’s mentor, and the man whose pursuit of becoming a better human helped shape everything Lighthouse is today. Tim takes us back to his earliest lessons in leadership: working alongside his father on construction sites, experiencing the power of a high-performing team through sports, and being deeply influenced by mentors who saw him, accepted him, and modeled selflessne...
1 Sept 2026
Episode 09: Leadership AND…Origin Stories
In this deeply personal episode, Josh and Patrick step outside their comfort zones and begin sharing their origin stories: the experiences, relationships, hardships, and unexpected opportunities that shaped who they are today. Patrick opens up about being born in California, raised in Mexico City, and growing up without knowing his father. He reflects on being raised by his grandmother and uncles, moving between two countries, struggling to understand where he belonged, navigating co-parenti...
15 Aug 2026
Episode 08: Leadership, AND…Pursuing Greatness
Most of us have things we want “one day.” A healthier life. A stronger marriage. A different career. More freedom. Better relationships with our kids. A project we’ve been talking about starting for years. The problem is usually that “one day” never becomes day one. In this episode of Leadership, AND…, Josh Donovan and Patrick Ibarra get back to the heart of the Lighthouse Leadership Series to explore the pursuit of greatness, not as comparison or competition, but as becoming the greatest ...
1 Aug 2026
Episode 07: Leadership AND...Sarah Failla
Leadership isn't just about the version of you that shows up in the boardroom. It's also about the five-year-old who learned to stay quiet. The teenager who decided vulnerability wasn't safe. The part of you that craves connection. The part that's terrified of rejection. Whether we realize it or not, every version of ourselves comes into every conversation, every conflict, every decision, and every relationship. In this deeply personal conversation, executive coach Sarah Failla joins Josh ...
15 Jul 2026
Episode 06: Leadership AND...Brianna Donovan
Leadership at Home: Marriage, Parenting, Grief, and the People Who Shape Us (with Brianna Donovan) Leadership isn't just for the workplace. Some of the most important leadership happens around the dinner table, in difficult conversations, during seasons of grief, and in the quiet moments that no one else ever sees. In Part 2 of their conversation with Brianna Donovan, Josh Donovan and Patrick Ibarra explore the deeply personal side of leadership. Together, they discuss navigating different...
1 Jul 2026
Episode 05 | Leadership AND…Personality with Brianna Donovan
What Personality Teaches Us About Leadership, Marriage, and Parenting What happens when two people who see the world completely differently choose to build a life together? In this episode of Leadership, And..., Josh Donovan and Patrick Ibarra welcome a very special guest: Josh's wife of nearly 21 years, Brianna Donovan. Together, they pull back the curtain on their marriage, their family, and the surprising ways personality differences have become one of their greatest strengths. Using th...
15 Jun 2026
Episode 04: Leadership AND…Chris Ferree
Grace and Accountability, Connection before Correction The world loves either/or thinking. You're right or you're wrong. Strong or vulnerable. Optimistic or realistic. Leadership asks something different. In Episode 4 of the Leadership, And… Podcast, Josh Donovan and Patrick Ibarra sit down with leadership coach, educator, and Lighthouse managing partner Chris Ferree for a conversation about paradox, mentorship, parenting, personal growth, and the power of seeing people as people. The ep...
1 Jun 2026
Episode 03: Leadership AND... Chris Failla
Finding Your Why: The Conversation That Changes Everything What if one of the most important questions you'll ever answer isn't "what do I do" or "where am I going"? What if it's simply: Why? In Episode 3 of the Leadership, And… Podcast, Josh Donovan and Patrick Ibarra sit down with leadership coach and author Chris Failla to unpack the story behind one of the most transformational tools in the Lighthouse ecosystem: the Why Process. What begins as the story of how Josh and Chris first...
Why Most People Confuse Them What’s the difference between leadership and management? And why does that distinction matter so much at work, at home, and in the way we lead ourselves? In Episode 2 of the Leadership, And… Podcast, Josh Donovan and Patrick Ibarra unpack one of the most foundational ideas behind the Lighthouse Institute approach to leadership: you lead people, and you manage systems and processes. From construction companies building massive AI data centers to conversatio...
1 May 2026
Leadership AND…Intro
1 May 2026
Episode 01 -Leadership, AND...The Beginning
Why Leadership Is About More Than Work What if leadership isn’t just about managing teams, improving performance, or climbing higher professionally? What if leadership touches everything? In the very first episode of the Leadership, And… podcast, Josh Donovan and Patrick Ibarra introduce both the heart behind the podcast and the deeper mission of Lighthouse Institute, a leadership development company built around the belief that better humans make better leaders. This conversation explores th...
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