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Leading Through Growth

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Leading Through Growth features thoughtful, executive-level conversations with leaders navigating the complexity that comes with growth. Hosted by Tony Sanders, Founder and Fractional Chief Learning Officer at Gawlo, the podcast explores how executives and operators lead teams through periods of expansion—sharing lessons, decisions, and insights from scaling leaders, teams, and culture. These conversations are reflective, practical, and peer-driven. Rather than tactics or trends, each episode focuses on how leadership evolves as organizations grow and what experienced leaders wish they had u

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July 29, 2026

The Invisible Friction Killing Your Team (And How to Fix It)

Invisible friction is the quiet tension that builds when people stop trusting each other and start protecting themselves — and it's silently slowing down fast-growing teams. Chris Rollins, creator of Ripple Effect Leadership™, breaks down how new managers lose team trust and how to rebuild it. When your best individual contributor gets promoted to manager, something quietly breaks. In this episode of Leading Through Growth, Chris — a former Head of Organizational Development — unpacks the mindset shift from doer to leader, why vulnerability is the hardest leadership skill, and how small everyday moments build (or destroy) trust on a team. Chapters 00:00:00 Intro 00:01:24 The Genesis of Ripple Effect Leadership 00:02:49 From Division I Athlete to HR Executive 00:08:23 The Work That Made Acceptance Possible 00:09:55 What Is Invisible Friction and Why It's Killing Your Team 00:13:41 The Basement Story: When Leaders Miss What's Right in Front of Them 00:16:38 Red Yellow Green: Simple Check-Ins That Build Trust 00:17:20 Legacy Isn't What You Leave Behind—It's What You Cause Every Day 00:23:17 The Blue Ribbon Moment: Humanity in Ordinary Interactions 00:25:09 Why Vulnerability Is So Hard for Leaders 00:27:24 Courage Isn't Who You Are—It's What You Do 00:30:20 The Mindset Shift from Doer to Leader 00:32:11 Notice What Others Overlook 00:32:59 The 38.7 Percent Profit Advantage of Being Seen and Heard 00:33:50 Break Your Routines to Wake Your Brain Up 00:35:12 The Symphony Study: Mindful vs Performative Leadership CONNECT WITH CHRIS ROLLINS Website: https://www.chrisrollins.me LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/christopherrollins #Leadership #NewManager #TeamTrust #LeadershipDevelopment #RippleEffectLeadership

July 15, 2026

Building LinkedIn's Culture: What Hyper-Growth Really Looks Like with Steve Cadigan

Most leaders think about scaling in terms of revenue, product, and market share. But what about the people systems that have to grow with it? In this episode, Tony sits down with Steve Cadigan, LinkedIn's first ever Chief Human Resources Officer, who helped scale the company from 400 to 4,000 employees in just over three years through an IPO. Steve didn't walk into a polished HR machine. He walked into chaos: no policies, no job architecture, no compensation philosophy, and a leadership team skeptical of HR. This is the story of what it actually takes to build a talent strategy from scratch in a hyper growth environment, and why most of what we've been taught about retention, culture, and leadership development is built for a world that no longer exists. What you'll learn: Why builders and sustainers are two different profiles (and how to know which one you are) The moment LinkedIn's board admitted they had no answers for the growth ahead How LinkedIn stopped trying to win the recruiting war and became the place great people wanted to be The Growth Trap: what happens when company growth outpaces leadership capability Why LinkedIn started hiring for learning velocity, not credentials What broke first at LinkedIn and how they fixed it without a playbook How to design culture when everything is changing fast (hint: it's not about posters on the wall) "Retention is dead" what growth as the new loyalty actually means for how you lead Are the robots taking our jobs? Steve's take on AI hype vs. reality Rapid fire: RTO, the best and worst leadership trends in 2026 Steve's perspective will challenge how you think about tenure, development, and what it means to build a company that people don't just work for but grow because of. If you're leading a growing organization and wondering how to scale your people strategy without losing what makes you great, this episode is for you. 🔗 CONNECT WITH STEVE CADIGAN LinkedIn: Search Steve Cadigan Email: Steve@CadiganVentures.com Book: Workquake (available on Amazon) 📌 CONNECT WITH TONY LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/tonyrsanders/ Work with Gawlo: growwithgawlo.com CHAPTERS 00:00:00 Intro 00:01:58 Day one at LinkedIn 00:06:44 Builder vs Sustainer 00:09:26 The part of the scaling story nobody asks about 00:12:11 How LinkedIn stopped trying to win the recruiting war 00:14:30 The Growth Trap: when company growth outpaces leadership capability 00:16:15 Hiring for learning velocity, not current skills 00:20:55 What broke first at LinkedIn — and how they fixed it 00:25:00 Designing culture when everything is changing fast 00:32:53 "Retention is dead" — what growth is the new loyalty actually means 00:42:25 AI: Are the robots actually taking our jobs? 00:56:25 Rapid fire: RTO, best and worst leadership trends in 2026

July 1, 2026

010 - Culture Is The Heartbeat ft Amber Fields

<p>Workplace culture gets talked about constantly, but rarely defined — and even more rarely prioritized when a company is scaling fast. In this episode I sit down with Amber Fields, Partner and Chief Culture Officer at trueU, to get specific about what workplace culture actually is, why it matters more than most leaders realize, and what happens when you get it wrong.We cover how to actually define culture (beyond swag bags and events), why it can't get deprioritized during growth, the ripple effect that turnover sets off, and who really owns culture inside an organization — the answer isn't HR.If you're a founder, CEO, or people leader trying to hold your culture together while you grow, this conversation will give you a clearer way to think about it.🔗 ConnectAmber Fields on LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/amberwestfields/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferer">https://www.linkedin.com/in/amberwestfields/</a>Work with Gawlo: <a href="https://www.growwithgawlo.com" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferer">growwithgawlo.com</a></p>

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What is Leading Through Growth?: Leading Through Growth features thoughtful, executive-level conversations with leaders navigating the complexity that comes with growth.

Hosted by Tony Sanders, Founder and Fractional Chief Learning Officer at Gawlo, the podcast explores how executives and operators lead teams through periods of expansion—sharing lessons, decisions, and insights from scaling leaders, teams, and culture.

These conversations are reflective, practical, and peer-driven. Rather than tactics or trends, each episode focuses on how leadership evolves as organizations grow and what experienced leaders wish they had u
How often does this podcast release new episodes?: This podcast updates daily.
Where can I listen to this podcast?: This podcast is available on 4 platforms including Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and more. You can also use the RSS feed directly.
Does this podcast accept guests?: Yes, this podcast regularly features guests.

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