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Learning A Process Model

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by Nicholas Montaño and Joey Massengale

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A podcast for people that have some familiarity with Focusing and who are wanting to read/think/live through Eugene Gendlin’s "A Process Model". Nicholas Montaño and Joey Massengale move through the electrifyingly fun and difficult book page by page, modeling in their own processes how listeners might embrace its density and necessary disorientations towards forming new understandings of the world and themselves: "Bring along your copy of APM, send us your questions, and join us as together we enliven and expand our felt-thinking around Focusing, learning, theory-building, and so much more!"

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July 23, 2026

Ch. IV (pp. 22–24) – A new kind of thinking

<p>This episode explores, in depth, how even early parts of the text are inviting us into a new kind of thinking than many of us would have typically experienced. </p><p>This kind of thinking, of course, builds upon a lineage of thought along several lines within the philosophical canon. But its newness stands out in relationship to the predominant ways we tend to talk and think within society; so much in philosophy has yet to find a pragmatic and heartful ground within the culture and world at large. </p><p>Gendlin would say that the old kind of thinking &quot;inheres&quot; in our current forms of thinking. In contrast, we&#39;ll explore what it&#39;s like to—relative to this baseline—experience a new way of forming distinctions that always happen against the foredrop of a whole, never separate from it nor each other.</p><p>We look forward to you joining us in the excitement, confusion, and learning that emerges within this episode!</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Chapters</strong> (please note that paragraphs start counting per-page, on the first full paragraph of that page):</p><p>00:00:00 - Intro</p><p>00:01:06 - p. 22, paras. 1–5, &quot;This result is what most people begin with...&quot;<br>00:29:58 - p. 22, paras. 6–7, &quot;It is an empirical question...&quot;<br>00:34:42 - pp. 22–23, paras. 8–1, &quot;Once a process has become differentiated...&quot;</p><p>01:18:38 - p. 23, paras. 2–5, &quot;The illusion of separate processes...&quot;<br>01:31:23 - p. 23, para. 6, &quot;They are separate in the phases...&quot;<br>01:36:28 - p. 23, paras. 7–10, &quot;There seem to be separate processes...&quot;<br>01:45:47 - pp. 23–24, paras. 10–2, &quot;...The body is always the other ongoing process...&quot;<br>01:50:56 - p. 24, paras. 3–4, &quot;&#39;Interaffecting&#39; and &#39;coordination&#39;...&quot;</p>

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June 22, 2026

Ch. IV (pp. 19–23) - The body is the other process that goes on

<p>The time has come to start defining the body in our little APM model. Chapter IV represents the real cliff of difficulty, but we hope the way we dive into the material will support you. Furthermore, I (Nicholas) aim to show in this episode how some of the most challenging aspects of this section come from genuine difficulties in talking properly about reality. That rather than Gendlin being obtuse, it is instead just challenging to think in the kind of ways Gendlin is thinking.</p><p>It will be so worth it.</p><p>If you hit a meaningful snag in this episode, please let us know! Joey and I discussed some ways we could make future episodes even more accessible without diluting the content, but we'd still love to hear from you.</p><p>Happy IV-ing! (This is where things get really fun 🙂).</p><p><br /></p><p>{Paragraph scheme: top of the page always means paragraph 1. This will be changing in future episodes.}</p><p><br /></p><p>00:00 - Intro<br />01:11 - p. 20, subsection (a): The body (when a process stops) is what continues...<br />01:50 - p. 20, paras. 1–2: We will now define a stopped process.<br />05:13 - p. 20, paras. 3–4: Until now, we had no way to speak about the seemingly separable...<br />06:54 - p. 20, para. 5: Let me first say that not every change is a stopped process.<br />08:54 - p. 20, para. 6: What continues is different than if there was no stoppage.<br />14:50 - p. 20, para. 7: A stopped process is a changed implying carried by a changed occurring.<br />18:49 - pp. 20–21, paras. 8–1: The differently ongoing process includes some unchanged implying which implies the object.<br />21:28 - p. 21, para. 2: The carried stoppage is the body-version of the missing object.<br />23:35 - p. 21, continuing para. 2: For the same reason I also want to call the carried stoppage the "schema".<br />26:17 - p. 21, para. 3: I have already said that "recognize" is used "too early" here.<br />29:42 - p. 21, para. 4: We are setting up a new convention of the living body...<br />35:26 - p. 21, para. 5: If the stoppage is new, what continues has never occurred before...<br />37:25 - p. 21, para. 6: Were there "two" processes before one of them stopped?<br />41:15 - p. 21, para. 7: What continues would not be new if...<br />52:06 - p. 21, paras. 8–10: We can also see novelty developing, if we consider this...<br />55:24 - pp. 21–22, paras. 11–1: If there are many stoppages and resumptions, there will be many processess...<br />58:33 - p. 22, paras. 3–4: In our new model the processes are originally and inherently coordinated.<br />1:07:23 - p. 22, paras. 5–6: Therefore, how any one of them is, at a certain moment...<br />1:27:00 - p. 22, para. 7: It is an empirical question whether all processes imply each other in this way...<br />1:29:56 - pp. 22–23, paras. 8–3: When one defines separated processes or bodily "systems"...<br />1:54:11 - Outro</p>

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June 3, 2026

Ch III (pt. 2) - A Little Model with Startling Powers

<p>In this episode we finish Chapter III, continuing from the subsection &quot;Some Motivations and Powers of the Model So Far&quot;, and sharing our reflections and amazements of what Gendlin has accomplished in merely twenty pages.</p><p>Joey and I have a terrible habit of having long, deep philosophical discussions before moving on to record our podcast episodes and doing even more philosophy. Starting at the four-hour mark of thinking really hard together, we hope you&#39;ll enjoy the somewhat looser, sillier flow of this episode we crest into our final hour of reading Chapter III with aplomb.</p><p>Chapters:</p><p>00:00 - Introduction</p><p>02:26 - p. 17, para. 5: &quot;Some Motivations and Powers of the Model So Far&quot;</p><p>05:02 - p. 17, para. 6: &quot;Since we humans are here, we can be certain that we are not impossible.&quot;</p><p>05:48 - p. 17, para. 7: &quot;Human meaning and symbols seem impossible in the spectator&#39;s space and time...&quot;</p><p>06:34 - p. 18, para. 1: &quot;Postmodernists want to reject any conceptual model.&quot;</p><p>12:04 - p. 18, para. 2: &quot;We can devise an alternative...&quot;</p><p>15:28 - p. 18, paras. 3–5: &quot;We can speak from living...&quot;</p><p>19:05 - p. 18, para. 6: &quot;It is known that symbols and rituals have deep bodily effects, but there is no way to think how that can be.&quot;</p><p>28:39 - continuing para. 6 into p. 19.</p><p>29:40 - p. 19, para. 2: &quot;What makes something a symbol is usually said to be that it &#39;stands for something&#39;&quot;</p><p>33:44 - p. 19, paras. 3–4: &quot;Our rudimentary model already says quite a lot that needs to be said and cannot be said in the old model.&quot;</p><p>43:43 - Learned concepts in an en#1 sense are stoppages until they become relevant to the life process.</p><p>47:54 - Crossing APM with Eastern wisdom teachings about non-thinking.</p><p>49:33 - p. 19, paras. 5–6: &quot;Later we will derive terms for cognitive processes...&quot;</p><p>53:06 - Closing</p>

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What is Learning A Process Model?

A podcast for people that have some familiarity with Focusing and who are wanting to read/think/live through Eugene Gendlin’s "A Process Model". Nicholas Montaño and Joey Massengale move through the electrifyingly fun and difficult book page by page, modeling in their own processes how listeners might embrace its density and necessary disorientations towards forming new understandings of the world and themselves:

"Bring along your copy of APM, send us your questions, and join us as together we enliven and expand our felt-thinking around Focusing, learning, theory-building, and so much more!"

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