Legal AI Lab
Claim This Podcastby Recht in je Oor | Hidde Bruinsma
Podcast Overview
<p>Legal AI Lab with Hidde Bruinsma explores with top experts how artificial intelligence is reshaping the legal world. From lawyers and judges to law students, everyone will face fundamental shifts driven by AI. Each episode dives into the opportunities, risks, and new skills required, preparing you for the legal market of the future.</p><p><br></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>
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July 23, 2026
Dervish Tayyip - Microsoft Is Not Competing With Legal AI, It Is Hosting It
<p>Microsoft is not trying to win the legal AI market. It wants to be the layer underneath it.</p><br><p>Dervish Tayyip is Assistant General Counsel for EMEA at Microsoft. The strategy he describes has little to do with building the best model. Embed intelligence into the workflows lawyers already use, then wrap enterprise governance around it. The legal agent inside Word is the visible part. The orchestration layer, where a lawyer pulls down whichever model suits the task, is where Tayyip says legal AI value actually sits.</p><br><p>For general counsel the pressure is coming from somewhere else entirely. CFOs have heard that legal is about to be disrupted. Management consultants are telling the CEO they can deliver the same legal department at a third of the cost. Tayyip explains what he hears in Microsoft's roundtables with general counsel, and how a GC takes control of that narrative before someone else writes it for them.</p><br><p>He also covers where horizontal platforms end and jurisdiction specific legal AI begins, what Microsoft commits to if a government ever demands a shutdown, and what junior lawyers should be learning now the groundwork is automated.</p><br><p>You'll learn</p><p><br></p><ul><li>why Microsoft says the frontier model is not where legal AI value sits</li><li>how the legal agent inside Word removes the friction of changing behaviour</li><li>what enterprise governance adds on top of a model: confidentiality, auditability, privilege</li><li>how a general counsel builds the investment case when the CFO wants headcount down</li><li>why horizontal platforms and vertical legal AI are no longer an either or choice</li><li>what Microsoft commits to contractually if a government demands a shutdown</li></ul><p><br></p><p><strong>Powered by Zeno</strong></p><p>This episode is powered by Zeno. <strong>Zeno</strong> is an AI native legal workspace built for Dutch and EU law.</p><p>Its AI navigates law like a human legal professional. Secure, transparent and grounded in authoritative sources.</p><p>Visit<a href="https://zeno.law/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> zeno.law</a> and make deep thinking your competitive edge.</p><br><p>Chapters</p><br><p>00:00 Introduction</p><p>02:18 Why the legal profession adapts slower than technology</p><p>10:39 Automate, innovate or eliminate your workflows</p><p>14:14 The legal agent in Word and an operating system for legal work</p><p>17:11 Why the model is not where legal AI value sits</p><p>22:39 Competing and partnering in the legal AI market</p><p>25:56 Inside Microsoft's roundtables with general counsel</p><p>29:59 What if someone pulls the plug on Europe</p><p>33:48 200 data centres and Microsoft's promise to Europe</p><p>43:10 The general counsel's case to the CFO</p><p>46:30 Where horizontal and vertical legal AI meet</p><p>52:43 How junior lawyers learn when the groundwork is gone</p><p>58:23 Efficiency versus effectiveness</p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>
July 9, 2026
Nicky Leijtens - AI Is Not Neutral: The Gender Gap Nobody Talks About
<p>AI is not neutral. The gender gap in AI runs through the data it is trained on, the people who build it and the people who use it. And in legal, almost nobody talks about it.</p><br><p>Nicky Leijtens, co-founder of She Breaks the Law and part of Bird & Bird, joins Hidde Bruinsma with examples that stick. Ask ChatGPT for career advice as a girl and the answer is less encouraging than the one a boy gets. Women make up 22% of AI development teams, a number that has not moved in ten years of Stanford research. At the M&A Awards, 42 nominations included exactly one woman.</p><br><p>Why does the gender gap in AI stay off the agenda while every conference talks adoption and implementation? And what can you do tomorrow, whether you build, buy or simply use legal AI?</p><br><p><strong>Powered by Zeno</strong></p><p>This episode is powered by Zeno. <strong>Zeno</strong> is an AI native legal workspace built for Dutch and EU law.</p><p>Its AI navigates law like a human legal professional. Secure, transparent and grounded in authoritative sources.</p><p>Visit<a href="https://zeno.law/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> zeno.law</a> and make deep thinking your competitive edge.</p><br><p>You'll learn</p><ul><li>why AI reflects the people who build it, and who is missing from that room</li><li>what happens when biased models start influencing legal decisions and access to justice</li><li>how visibility creates permission for other women to experiment</li><li>why women adopt AI less and are judged more harshly when they do use it</li><li>what closes the gender gap in AI according to Nicky: small actions that add up</li></ul><p><br></p><p><strong>Chapters</strong></p><p>00:00 Introduction</p><p>00:05 She Breaks the Law: 4,000 women in 50 countries</p><p>07:43 Rechtwijzer and better justice journeys</p><p>13:51 The gender gap in AI nobody talks about</p><p>14:39 AI is not neutral: data, users, builders</p><p>16:39 Airbags, heart attacks and the male default</p><p>18:08 Only 22% of AI builders are women</p><p>20:25 Closing the gender gap in AI: where to start</p><p>25:30 The Rik de Groot moment at Legal Geek</p><p>29:14 Zeno question: auditing legal AI tools for bias</p><p>34:27 42 nominations, one woman at the M&A Awards</p><p>42:54 Antibodies: who is blocking the change</p><p>50:39 What you can do tomorrow about the gender gap in AI</p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>
June 16, 2026
George Hannah - Personal Branding in the Age of AI
<p>Personal branding is career insurance for lawyers. That is how <strong>George Hannah</strong> treats it, and it is paying off.</p><br><p>George is a solicitor apprentice at Lewis Silkin and the founder of Best Practice, the legal AI newsletter he started in January 2025 with one viral LinkedIn post. Today it is a media company with a podcast and a personal brand of more than 12,000 LinkedIn followers, run entirely next to his day job.</p><br><p>We get into his personal branding playbook: why perfectionism keeps lawyers invisible, why an email list beats a rented audience, and why he posts at 80 percent and walks away. Then the legal AI market: Jude Law fronting Legora, Gabriel Macht fronting Harvey, Claude for Legal, the Freshfields deal and the Gartner hype cycle.</p><br><p>And the question every firm is wrestling with: what is left for junior lawyers when AI does the grunt work? George's answer: build the agents.</p><br><p><strong>Powered by Zeno</strong></p><p>This episode is powered by Zeno. <strong>Zeno</strong> is an AI native legal workspace built for Dutch and EU law.</p><p>Its AI navigates law like a human legal professional. Secure, transparent and grounded in authoritative sources.</p><p>Visit<a href="https://zeno.law/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> zeno.law</a> and make deep thinking your competitive edge.</p><br><p><strong>You'll learn</strong></p><ul><li>why a personal brand works as career insurance</li><li>how one viral post grew into a legal media company</li><li>why perfectionism keeps lawyers invisible on LinkedIn</li><li>what the celebrity brand war says about the legal AI market</li><li>whether legal AI has reached the peak of the hype cycle</li><li>how junior lawyers stay valuable by building AI agents</li></ul><p><br></p><p><strong>Chapters</strong></p><p>00:00 Introduction</p><p>02:21 One viral post starts Best Practice</p><p>04:49 Email lists and the discipline of weekly content</p><p>08:09 From Sunday newsletter to legal media company</p><p>11:19 Personal branding is not luck</p><p>12:22 Why lawyers fail at personal branding</p><p>16:03 Personal branding in the age of AI slop</p><p>18:07 Your personal brand as career insurance</p><p>22:01 The TBD Marketing LinkedIn leaderboard</p><p>23:39 Post at 80 percent and put your phone away</p><p>26:06 Jude Law, Gabriel Macht and the legal AI brand war</p><p>28:58 Have we reached the peak of the hype cycle</p><p>30:30 Claude for Legal, Microsoft and the Freshfields deal</p><p>35:47 Access to justice and Lawhive's AI lawyer Lawrence</p><p>40:32 What junior lawyers do when AI takes the grunt work</p><p>47:08 Portfolio careers and weekly check-ins</p><p>50:50 Advice for lawyers finding their voice</p><br><p><br></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>
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