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About Legal Geek Live
Legal Geek Live explores how technology is transforming the legal world. Host Hidde Bruinsma speaks with founders, general counsels and innovators who are changing how lawyers think, work and lead in the age of AI. The focus is on real stories, not hype. Guests share what works, what fails and how legal teams can stay human while building for the future. If you want to understand where law and technology truly meet, this is where the conversation starts. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy (https://acast.com/privacy) for more information.
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- 29 Oct 2025
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- 3 Jun 2026
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3 Jun 2026
Aniek de Vries - leading AI adoption from legal ops and why the legal team outpaced the entire company
Recorded at the Legal Geek Conference in Amsterdam, this episode features Aniek de Vries, a Legal Ops professional at Just Eat Takeaway, one of the largest food delivery platforms in the world. She works within a legal team of around seventy people spread across more than fifteen countries, with hubs in Amsterdam and London. Earlier that day, she took the stage alongside her colleague Millie Foster to share how their in-house team has embraced AI, and in this conversation with Hidde Bruinsma, she goes deeper into what that journey actually looks like from the inside. What makes this story striking is not just the tools, but the position: the legal department at Just Eat Takeaway has been the leading adopter of AI within the company, a tech company, nearly every month since April last year. Aniek explains how that happened and what it took: Why it all starts with training, not technology, and why the team invested heavily in learning before building anything, using a driving licence analogy: you need to understand how AI works before you can use it responsibly How the team set up a cross-functional taskforce with one lawyer from every sub-team, sharing what they learned weekly and feeding insights back across the department in monthly sessions The shift from Gemini to Prosus's Tocon platform, which gave the legal team access to an in-house agent builder, and how that accelerated everything Why even simple automations matter: the example of an automated signature page workflow that sounds trivial but saves the team real time every week How they built a small chatbot to guide people through privacy assessments, and what it means for a legal department to start delivering self-service tools to the business The hackathon where the team tried to build a triage agent that could look at incoming Jira tickets and tell lawyers whether they actually needed to act on them, based on a priority matrix, and why it did not really work but was still one of the most valuable things they did Why data organisation comes before AI, and how the team first had to invest in getting their Jira workflows, statuses, and ways of working aligned before any AI layer could add value The moment when people's eyes light up because they realise they can build things by talking in normal human language, and why that spark matters more than any specific tool How leadership support and a culture of experimentation made adoption possible, not just one champion pushing from the side but managers actively encouraging their teams to learn and try The twelve projects now on the legal team's roadmap, including Jetty, a 24/7 query tool originally introduced by HR that the legal team jumped on, plus horizon scanning, drafting support, and a major playbook project for contract negotiations Aniek offers a practical, grounded look at what AI adoption actually requires inside a large international legal team: not a single breakthrough moment, but a steady process of learning together, building small, sharing what works, and making sure the foundations are in place before scaling up. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy (https://acast.com/privacy) for more information.
27 May 2026
Frans Post - The end of the pyramid, the billable hour, and why nobody is talking about it
Recorded at the Legal Geek Conference in Amsterdam, this episode takes on the question that most law firms are quietly avoiding: what happens to the business model when AI takes over the work that juniors used to do? Frans is a legal management consultant and former Clifford Chance professional who advises law firms on strategy, pricing, and operating models. He has spent twenty years thinking about how legal services are produced and sold, long before AI made the conversation urgent. In conversation with Hidde Bruinsma, Frans lays out why the traditional law firm pyramid is under existential pressure, and why almost nobody in the profession is willing to say it out loud: Why the bottom of the pyramid, trainees and junior associates, will be the first to go, and what that means for firms that have built their entire economics around billing a thousand hours per junior per year The math that nobody wants to hear: clients are paying roughly 250,000 euros a year for someone straight out of university, and Frans asks plainly why any client would keep doing that Why the billable hour is not a measure of value but a calculation trick designed to guarantee partner income, and why even so-called "fixed fees" are just the same hours repackaged How Clifford Chance was already experimenting with annual retainers and product-based billing twenty years ago, models that most firms are only now beginning to consider The story of a law firm that started charging clients for document storage by the byte, and the partner who said "that's not us" until it worked and turned into free money Why KPMG once walked into a law firm and announced a technology surcharge on their audit fees, and what that tells you about how other industries think about pricing How young lawyers are already asking firms in interviews how much they use AI, and walking away from firms that don't have an answer Why law firms never needed marketers, strategists, or business developers, the partner model was self-sustaining for thirty years and why that's now becoming a vulnerability The question Frans puts to every firm he works with: why does a client come to you? Not because of your AI, but because of who you are and the example of Arne Grimme at De Brauw, who clients seek out for reasons that have nothing to do with technology Frans' closing advice: take a day off, sit back, and seriously think about what happens when 40% of your work can be done by a machine. That question, he says, is where it all starts Frans offers a blunt, experience-backed perspective on why the legal profession's business model is more fragile than it appears and why the firms that start rethinking now will be the ones still standing when the volume shift hits. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy (https://acast.com/privacy) for more information.
20 May 2026
Hans Albers - The growing gap in legal AI adoption and why strategy matters more than tools
Recorded at the Legal Geek Conference in Amsterdam, this episode gets to the heart of why so many legal AI projects stall after the first workshop. Hans Albers, Director of Legal Management Consulting & Managed Services at Deloitte Legal, advises law firms and in-house legal teams on AI strategy, operating models, and change management. Before Deloitte, he led worldwide legal operations at Juniper Networks and served as EMEA General Counsel at both Juniper and Cisco. In conversation with Hidde Bruinsma, Hans shares what he sees on the ground when legal organisations try to make AI work: Why law firms are adopting AI faster than in-house teams, and why competition is driving that speed in a way that internal legal departments simply don't feel The firm where senior associates were quietly thriving with AI but didn't dare mention it, because the partners above them weren't ready for that conversation How a workshop with one law firm's leadership revealed that the tone from the top was positive all along, they just hadn't realised it needed to trickle down Why "communication, communication and communication" is Hans's answer to every AI adoption question, and why one business case presentation is never enough How an insurance company went from months of manual claims review to processing ten thousand documents in two weeks, at a price the client would actually pay Why lawyers treat AI like a finished product they can buy and install, and why even the iPhone after 25 years is still not done The temptation of building your own legal AI tool with Copilot and Office 365, and why Hans has seen it go wrong: "The man who built it left five years ago, so we have no idea how to fix it" Why junior lawyers should be training the partners, not the other way around, and the co-creation model that makes that work How AI is quietly threatening the billable hour from two sides: firms can no longer charge for work that takes minutes, and clients are starting to do it themselves Why "start small" is only half the advice, the other half is to stop thinking about efficiency and start rethinking how legal services are delivered entirely Hans offers a refreshingly practical perspective on what legal AI adoption actually requires, not just the right tool, but the strategy behind it, the patience to keep communicating, and the willingness to accept that the product will never be finished. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy (https://acast.com/privacy) for more information.
13 May 2026
Joris Willems - AI at NautaDutilh and why you need to get comfortable being uncomfortable
Recorded at the Legal Geek Conference in Amsterdam, this episode is a front-row seat to how one of the Netherlands' leading law firms is navigating the AI revolution from the inside. Joris Willems, partner and head of the Technology Group at NautaDutilh, has been a tech lawyer for over 25 years, and even he had to walk on his toes to keep up. In conversation with Hidde Bruinsma, Joris shares the real story behind NautaDutilh's AI journey: - How NautaDutilh got embedded inside Prosus' AI engineering team during the build of their internal tool Toqan, not writing memos from the sidelines, but joining standups and design decisions - The deliberate choice to first build their own AI tool with a startup, before switching to Legora for firm-wide rollout - The "AI virus": how organic adoption made it impossible to take the tool away, and how that became the smartest pitch to the partnership - Why two junior lawyers chatting at the in-house barista about a five-minute Legora translation says more about the future than any strategy deck - The generation gap: juniors who embrace AI instantly versus senior partners who are still processing what just happened - How the profession will change and why nobody, including Joris, has all the answers yet - Why value-based billing will replace the billable hour as the default, and what that means for firm economics - The culture of a 302-year-old firm where senior partners see themselves as custodians handing the keys to the next generation, not owners protecting their share - What it was like negotiating with OpenAI when the Italian regulator suddenly intervened mid-call - Why "get comfortable being uncomfortable" is Joris' most important advice for young lawyers, and why it has nothing to do with AI Joris offers a refreshingly candid perspective on what it actually takes to land AI inside a traditional law firm, not just the tooling, but the culture, the patience, and the willingness to experiment while the profession reinvents itself around you. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy (https://acast.com/privacy) for more information.
6 May 2026
Bert Vries - Lessons from one of legal's biggest AI deployments
Recorded at the Legal Geek Conference in Amsterdam, this episode takes you inside one of the largest generative AI rollouts in the legal industry. Bert Vries, Director of Information Technology & Innovation at CMS Netherlands, led the global deployment of Harvey across 7,000+ lawyers in over fifty countries a journey that started with a simple email in 2023 and is still going. In conversation with Hidde Bruinsma, Bert shares the real story behind CMS's AI transformation: - How CMS went from pilot to global rollout, and why it took two and a half years - The shift from horizontal, firm-wide AI features to vertical, practice-specific use cases - Why Banking & Finance uses Harvey differently than Labor Law or Corporate M&A - The concrete example of reviewing 10,000 invoices and why no lawyer signs up for that - How AI doesn't just drive efficiency, but can genuinely improve the quality of legal advice - Why the ROI of legal AI isn't measured in euros saved, but in changing how people feel about their work - How the billable hour model is being challenged, and why Bert believes in a nuanced, hybrid approach to pricing - What the dotcom era taught Bert about innovation hype and why today's AI wave feels eerily familiar - Why so many firms get stuck in analysis paralysis, and Bert's Columbus analogy for breaking free - How CMS chose Harvey: no lengthy RFP, no feature matrix just experimentation and momentum Bert offers a refreshingly honest perspective on what it actually takes to land AI in a global law firm, not just the technology, but the patience, the conversations, and the willingness to experiment while others are still analysing. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy (https://acast.com/privacy) for more information.
27 Nov 2025
Jeremy Coleman – Don’t Be Scared of Agentic AI: A Blueprint for Legal Teams
Recorded at the Legal Geek Conference in London, this episode dives into the fast-moving world of agentic AI with Jeremy Coleman, Vice President, Legal Research & Development at ContractPodAi. Jeremy breaks down the shift from GenAI experimentation to real-world implementation, and explains why legal teams should be planning, not panicking. In conversation with Hidde Bruinsma, Jeremy explores: What agentic AI really is, and why it’s not as scary as it sounds How agents bring more control, not less, by working within user-defined guardrails Why we’ve already been preparing for this through workflow automation, machine learning, and GenAI How legal work will shift from individual tasks to coordinated agentic systems Why the biggest opportunity lies in connecting departments, not replacing them How ContractPodAi’s platform Leah helps in-house teams build real-world agentic workflows Which legal tasks (e.g. real estate, regulatory prep) are ripest for automation Why law firms may not become tech companies, but already operate like them Jeremy offers a clear-eyed view on what’s changing in legal tech, what will remain the same, and how to build smart AI systems that augment lawyers rather than replace them. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy (https://acast.com/privacy) for more information.
20 Nov 2025
Jody Glidden – From Introhive to Postilize: The AI Playbook for Rainmakers
Recorded at the Legal Geek Conference in London, this episode features Jody Glidden, serial entrepreneur and founder of Postilize (and previously Introhive), sharing how AI can transform the way legal professionals build relationships, generate revenue, and stay ahead of the billable hour crunch. In this dynamic conversation with Hidde Bruinsma, Jody breaks down: Why law firms must shift from reactive to proactive business development How the billable hour is being eroded by AI, and what should replace it What he learned from working with the top rainmakers at 50+ global law firms How his framework turns signals into new legal matters using automation Why relationships are still the most valuable asset in the age of AI How lawyers can build scalable, empathetic, high-value connections Why sales, empathy, and strategy are the future-proof skills every lawyer needs The real reason so few associates become rainmakers, and how AI levels the playing field With insights from a founder who’s worked on both sides of the legal table, this episode is a practical, energizing roadmap for lawyers looking to thrive in an AI-first, relationship-driven future. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy (https://acast.com/privacy) for more information.
20 Nov 2025
Alex Fawcett – Inside Thomson Reuters: Building Trustworthy Legal AI at Scale
Recorded at the Legal Geek Conference in London, this episode features Alex Fawcett, VP Product, CoCounsel Platform at Thomson Reuters, offering an inside look at how one of the world’s biggest legal tech players is shaping the future of AI in law, with a deep focus on trust, content, and domain expertise. In conversation with Hidde Bruinsma, Alex unpacks: Why law firms aren’t tech companies, and what they should (and shouldn’t) build themselves How verified content, legal domain expertise, and AI engineering power TR’s product ecosystem What makes “professional-grade AI” different from ChatGPT and other consumer tools Why hallucinations and trust are the critical battlegrounds in legal AI What sets TR’s agentic workflows apart, and how human oversight is built in by design Why most firms lack a proper AI strategy, and how TR helps bridge that gap How Thomson Reuters uses 600,000+ automated tests and a team of lawyers to ensure accuracy If you're wondering how enterprise legal AI is built, governed, and scaled, this episode is packed with practical insights from one of the industry's biggest players. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy (https://acast.com/privacy) for more information.
20 Nov 2025
Helen Burness – Owning Your Voice: Personal Branding, Allyship & LinkedIn for Lawyers
Recorded at the Legal Geek Conference in London, this bold and inspiring episode features Helen Burness, legal marketer, personal branding expert, and founder of Saltmarsh Marketing, on how lawyers (especially women in law) can show up, speak out, and lead online. In this conversation with Hidde Bruinsma, Helen shares: Why owning your voice is no longer optional in the AI and algorithm era How platform bias and people bias make visibility harder for women, and what to do about it Why personal branding is about future-proofing your career, not just marketing The fear lawyers face around visibility, and how to move past it How law firms can better train and empower their people to be strong brand advocates The role of LinkedIn as the “world’s biggest B2B conference”, and how to show up at your own pace Why listening and staying human are the keys to long-term relevance Helen blends honesty, humour, and strategy in a must-hear episode for legal professionals navigating visibility, identity, and professional leadership in a digital-first world. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy (https://acast.com/privacy) for more information.
20 Nov 2025
Mark Cullen – Legal AI That Works: Building, Buying & Bridging the Future
Recorded at the Legal Geek Conference in London, this episode features Mark Cullen, VP of LegalTech Product Management at Thomson Reuters, on how one of the industry’s biggest players is approaching the next wave of AI, with a balance of cutting-edge technology, strategic acquisitions, and a deeply human mindset. In conversation with Hidde Bruinsma, Mark unpacks: Why storytelling is just as vital as tech in a crowded AI market How Thomson Reuters blends build, buy, and partner strategies to scale smartly What makes CoCounsel and TR’s AI tools truly “professional-grade” How AI is transforming legal teams into strategic business partners Why agentic AI is coming fast, and why “human in the loop” will always be essential How TR’s tools are built on trust, not just tech, with real-world data, testing, and legal content The future of law firms: not tech companies, but product companies Why now is the time for law firms to turn tacit expertise into scalable services This episode offers a behind-the-scenes look at how enterprise legal AI is being developed, governed, and deployed, and why the next phase is about helping lawyers do more, not less. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy (https://acast.com/privacy) for more information.
17 Nov 2025
Ruben Miessen - From Tinder to LegalTech Scaling LegalFly in the GenAI Era
In this fast-paced episode from Legal Geek Conference in London, Ruben Miessen, co-founder and CEO of LegalFly, shares the story behind one of Europe's most rapidly growing legal AI startups. From leading AI projects at Tinder to building a product-first legal tech company, Ruben explains how focus, timing, and obsession with real legal workflows are powering LegalFly’s growth. In this conversation with Hidde Bruinsma, Ruben covers: Why LegalFly pivoted away from law firms to focus entirely on in-house legal teams How AI is reshaping legal work inside companies, and reducing reliance on law firms The importance of focus and verticalization in building a scalable legal AI platform A peek into LegalFly’s new horizon-scanning tool for real-time legislation tracking What it’s like to raise €18M, scale a team across Belgium and the UK, and hire top talent How LegalFly grew out of a real bottleneck Ruben faced while working with Match Group’s legal team at Tinder From product pivots to legal AI agents, this episode is a masterclass in legal tech entrepreneurship, and a window into how GenAI is fundamentally changing the legal industry. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy (https://acast.com/privacy) for more information.
29 Oct 2025
Anna de Stefano – Bridging AI and Humanity: Legal Design for the Gen A Era
In this inspiring conversation recorded at Legal Geek Europe, legal design expert and ADS Studio founder Anna De Stefano (https://www.annadestefano.me/) explores how law firms can navigate the AI era without losing their human touch. Hosted by Hidde Bruinsma, this episode delves into: How adaptive leadership empowers multigenerational legal teams Why legal design is the bridge between tech and real-world problem-solving The power of asking the right questions in the age of generative AI Creating safe spaces for innovation within law firms Why critical thinking and ethics matter more than ever How to avoid becoming a commodity in the AI age Whether you’re a legal leader, tech enthusiast, or next-gen lawyer, this episode offers fresh insight into keeping humanity at the center of innovation. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy (https://acast.com/privacy) for more information.
29 Oct 2025
Jelle van Veenen – Legal AI Without the Hype: Data, Tools & the Future of Law
In this candid episode recorded at Legal Geek Europe, Jelle van Veenen (https://kvdl.com/ons-team/jelle-van-veenen), Innovation Manager at Kennedy Van der Laan and founder of Dutch Legal Tech, shares a grounded perspective on what’s actually needed to make legal AI work. Hosted by Hidde Bruinsma, the conversation cuts through the buzz to explore: Why data quality is the foundation of any useful legal AI The overload of disconnected tools and the need for integration-first AI How law firms can educate lawyers (and clients) about using AI responsibly Predictions on which legal AI startups will survive, and why Whether law firms should change their business models in the age of automation Concrete first steps for small firms exploring AI Jelle’s insights offer a no-nonsense, highly practical guide for firms navigating the AI hype cycle, with a strong focus on trust, transparency, and collaboration. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy (https://acast.com/privacy) for more information.
29 Oct 2025
Lance Bartholomeusz – Leading Global Legal Teams with Tech, Purpose & AI
In this episode recorded at Legal Geek Europe, Lance Bartholomeusz (https://www.linkedin.com/in/lance-bartholomeusz-034802ba/?originalSubdomain=ch), General Counsel and Head of Legal Affairs at the UN Refugee Agency (UNHCR), shares how legal teams can redefine their value in a rapidly evolving world. In conversation with Hidde Bruinsma, Lance opens up about: How AI and automation are already transforming legal work at UNHCR The importance of collaboration across borders, languages, and sectors Why today’s legal leaders must be humble, curious, and tech-savvy The role of digital upskilling and education for in-house lawyers Real use cases of AI in case triage, legal ops, and humanitarian services How to balance impact, ethics, and innovation in global legal work From Geneva to Bangkok, from SharePoint hacks to generative AI governance, this conversation is packed with practical wisdom and deep purpose. A must-listen for legal leaders navigating tech, transformation, and global complexity. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy (https://acast.com/privacy) for more information.
29 Oct 2025
Raoul Bouchrit – Building the Future of Legal AI, One Use Case at a Time
In this energetic episode recorded at Legal Geek Europe, Raoul Bouchrit (https://www.linkedin.com/in/raoul-bouchrit-064094137/?originalSubdomain=nl), co-founder and CEO of Zeno, shares how his legal AI startup is scaling fast by co-creating with lawyers, even in one of the most crowded tech markets today. In conversation with Hidde Bruinsma, Raoul reflects on: How co-creation with lawyers shaped Zeno’s product strategy Why hiring ex-lawyers helped bridge the language gap between tech and legal What it takes to build a single platform that handles legal research, drafting, and more How Zeno is competing with global giants like Harvey and Lega, without losing focus The challenges of working with legal publishers and third-party data Why “doing things that don’t scale” is key to adoption in legal tech From raising €2M to onboarding 15+ new hires, Raoul offers a transparent look at scaling a legal tech company with ambition, and precision. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy (https://acast.com/privacy) for more information.
29 Oct 2025
Suzanne van der Klip – Should Law Firms Build or Buy AI? Lessons from the Frontlines
In this insightful episode recorded at Legal Geek Europe, Suzanne van der Klip (https://www.linkedin.com/in/suzanne-van-der-klip/?originalSubdomain=nl), legal innovation lawyer and advisor on GenAI strategy, shares practical lessons from years of working at the intersection of law, tech, and transformation. Interviewed by Hidde Bruinsma, Suzanne dives into: Should legal teams build or buy AI solutions, and when does it make sense to do either? What law firms can learn from building their own tools, even at high cost Why tech stacking and platform thinking offer smarter paths to innovation The future of law firms as tech companies (and how that changes business models) What’s at stake for junior lawyers in an AI-driven workplace Why choosing AI tools requires strategic alignment, not ad hoc adoption From DIY platforms to full-suite vendors like Legora, Suzanne unpacks the decision-making behind legal AI, and where the industry is heading next. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy (https://acast.com/privacy) for more information.
29 Oct 2025
Tanisha Minev – Reimagining the Lawyer: Foundations, AI & the Cake Model
In this forward-thinking episode from Legal Geek Europe, Tanisha Minev (https://www.linkedin.com/in/tanisha-minev-181b4564/), Global Legal Counsel at Docplanner and co-author of Legal Operations in the Age of AI and Data, challenges the outdated models of legal professionalism. In conversation with Hidde Bruinsma, she explores how in-house legal teams can become proactive business partners without losing their legal foundation. Key topics include: Why the traditional T-shaped lawyer model no longer fits today’s legal reality Tanisha’s alternative: the “Cake Model”, a layered approach to legal skills How to balance legal expertise with AI literacy, business insight, and adaptability The growing risk of lawyers being replaced by automation if they lose their core skill set The need for modern legal education to reflect real-world complexity Why clients need more than legal research, they need legal reasoning With clarity and boldness, Tanisha offers a compelling vision for what the lawyer of the future should look like, layered, adaptable, and deeply rooted in both law and leadership. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy (https://acast.com/privacy) for more information.
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