Jason and Charlie sit down with Sean Herman, founder and CEO of Kinzoo, to unpack how the team builds kid-safe social products that prioritize connection, creativity, and skill-building. Sean covers Kinzoo Messenger growth to roughly 300K monthly engaged users, marketing to both kids and grandparents, SEO-led parent education, and why streaks and like counts are hard nos. The conversation digs into friend vs global leaderboards, diversified monetization across subscriptions, marketplace purchases, and opt-in brand Paths with movie studios, plus retention levers, parental approval flows, and staying mission-driven while scaling.
Links
Sean Herman (https://www.linkedin.com/in/sean-herman-kinzoo/)
Kinzoo (https://www.kinzoo.com/)
That Digital Dad (Sean's Substack) (https://thatdigitaldad.substack.com/)
13 Jul 2026
Tim Fung (Airtasker): The marketplace for tasks
Tim Fung is Founder and CEO of Airtasker, a unique marketplace where customers post tasks, and users complete them.
In this episode, Tim discusses the early stages of Airtasker's journey, touches on the founding story, key inflection points on their trajectory to over 2.5M tasks completed and some of the challenges the platform faces today including strategies the team are using to inceltivize increased booking frequency, increase retention and create network effects.
Links
Tim Fung (https://www.linkedin.com/in/timjfung/)
Airtasker (https://www.airtasker.com)
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22 Jun 2026
Rut Galar (MonkeyTaps): Growing to 600K MAUs using gamification
Rut Galar is a Senior Product Manager at Monkey Tabs, a company focused on building simple mobile apps for positive thinking and personal growth.
In this episode, Rut discusses the growth and development of Vocabulary, an app to help people improve their vocabulary every day, which has seen a significant increase in users from 150k to 600k MAUs in 3 years.
The discussion covers various strategies employed to enhance user engagement, including gamification, user retention techniques, and the importance of feedback mechanisms.
Rut shares insights on experimentation and A/B testing, as well as future plans for incorporating leaderboards and social features into the app. The conversation highlights the importance of understanding user behavior and the challenges of gathering meaningful feedback.
Links
Rut Galar (https://www.linkedin.com/in/rutgalarjimenez)
Monkey Taps (https://monkeytaps.net)
Powered By Trophy (https://trophy.so) - the gamification layer for consumer apps.
1 Feb 2026
Ji Woong Jang (Teuida): Growing to 500K MAUs & 3X LTV in 12 months
Summary
In this conversation, Ji Woong Jang discusses Teuida, a language learning app that emphasizes interactive speaking practice with native speakers. The app transitioned to a subscription model, significantly improving user retention and revenue. Ji Woong highlights the importance of community engagement, gamification strategies like streaks, and the introduction of missions for real-life practice. He also shares insights on marketing strategies, the balance between organic growth and paid advertising, and the future potential of AI in language learning, while maintaining a focus on cultural understanding as a key component of effective communication.
Links
Teuida (https://www.teuida.net/)
Ji Woong Jang (https://www.linkedin.com/in/jiwoongjang/)
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17 Dec 2025
Marcus Gners (Lifesum): The future of health and wellness
In this conversation, Marcus Gners, Chief Growth Officer and Co-Founder of Lifesum, discusses the evolution of the brand and its mission to help users improve their health through better nutrition. He emphasizes the importance of user experience, personalization, and the role of AI in enhancing the platform's functionality. The discussion also covers marketing strategies, partnerships, and the connection between nutrition and mental health, highlighting Lifesum's commitment to delivering value to its users.
Links
Lifesum (https://lifesum.com/)
Marcus Gners (https://www.linkedin.com/in/gners/)
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3 Dec 2025
Steve Hoyek (Journable): Building an AI calorie tracker app to over 600,000 users
Summary
In this conversation, Steve Hoyek discusses the journey of Journable, an AI calorie tracker app, focusing on user acquisition, retention strategies, and the importance of gamification. He shares insights on monetization, pricing models, and the challenges of bootstrapping a business in a competitive market. The discussion highlights the significance of user experience and the role of AI in personalizing the app for users' needs.
Links
Steve Hoyek (https://www.linkedin.com/in/stevehoyek/)
Journable (https://www.journable.com/)
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20 Nov 2025
Punit Jajodia (Programiz): Building a global coding education platform
Summary
In this conversation, Punit Jajodia, co-founder and CEO of Programiz, shares the journey of the edtech platform from its inception to its current state.
He discusses the challenges faced in monetization, the impact of AI on coding education, and the importance of building a community around learning.
Punit emphasizes the need for gamification strategies that reduce loneliness and enhance user engagement. He also outlines future plans for Programiz, focusing on empowering users to become builders in a rapidly changing tech landscape.
Links
Programiz (https://www.programiz.com)
Punit Jajodia (https://www.linkedin.com/in/punitjajodia/)
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29 Oct 2025
Barak Glanz (Coddy): Making code learning a daily hobby
Summary
In this conversation, Barak Glanz, co-founder and CMO of Coddy, shares insights into the rapid growth of his coding education platform, which achieved one million in annual recurring revenue (ARR) within a year.
He discusses the importance of influencer marketing, the challenges of user retention versus monetization, and the development of a mobile app.
Barak also emphasizes the significance of hiring the right team and the complexities of managing a B2C product that impacts users' daily lives.
Links
Coddy (https://coddy.tech)
Barak Glanz (https://www.linkedin.com/in/barak-glanz)
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13 Oct 2025
Sanjam Kholi (Chefadora): AI Cooking Assistant
In this episode of the Levels Podcast, Jason and Charlie speak with Sanjam Kohli, co-founder and CEO of Chefadora, a cooking platform that leverages AI to provide personalized cooking recommendations.They discuss the founding story of Chefadora, its growth trajectory, and the unique features that set it apart from other cooking sites.Sanjam shares insights on engaging creators, retaining users, and the future plans for the platform, including multilingual capabilities and community events.Add gamification to your app in days not months: https://trophy.so (https://trophy.so)
6 Oct 2025
Guillermo Martinez (Buen Provecho): Tackling Food Waste In Latin America
In this episode, Guillermo Martinez, COO and co-founder of Buen Provecho, discusses the journey of his startup, which connects stores with surplus food to consumers in Latin America. He shares insights on the challenges of international expansion, the importance of community engagement, and strategies for balancing supply and demand. The conversation also delves into marketing tactics, user acquisition, and the potential for gamification in enhancing user experience.
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1 Sept 2025
Matthew Cockerill (ckbk): Spotify for Cookbooks
In this conversation, Matthew Cockerill, founder of ckbk.com, discusses the journey of creating a digital subscription service that offers access to a vast library of cookbooks. He shares insights on the business model, the process of digitizing cookbooks, and the unique value proposition of ckbk in the culinary space. Matthew also highlights key milestones, the impact of COVID- 19, and future plans for user engagement and technology integration.
Claim 25% off ckbk subscriptions by following this link (http://join.ckbk.com/ckbk?code=LEVELS25) or by using the code LEVELS25 at checkout.
13 Jul 2025
João Neves (Bloop): Reshaping social shopping
In this conversation, Joao Neves, co-founder and CTO of Bloop, discusses his journey from working at major e-commerce companies like Amazon and Farfetch to launching Bloop, a social shopping platform that rewards users for sharing their purchases.
He explains the innovative business model that focuses on word-of-mouth marketing, the importance of building a community, and the strategies for attracting both users and suppliers.
Joao also shares insights on the challenges of creating a complex platform that merges e-commerce with social networking, and the growth strategies they plan to implement as they prepare for a wider launch.
30 Jun 2025
Amy Cameron (Sylvi AI): Learning language through conversation
Amy Cameron from Sylvi AI discusses how the app uses conversation and immersive techniques to teach language, focusing on user engagement and organic growth through TikTok in this interview.
16 Jun 2025
Tim Johnson (Wattpad, Couply, Blossom Social): The social network for investors
Tim Johnson, from Blossom Social, shares his experience in user experience and building community in B2C apps, and discusses strategies for scaling demand through brand partnerships in an interview.
3 Jun 2025
Max Hayward (Adventuro): Booking.com for Adventure Sports
Max Hayward of Adventuro discusses building a platform for booking adventure sports experiences, customer acquisition, and community building with hosts Jason and Charlie in an interview.
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