Listen or Don't Podcast

About Listen or Don't Podcast

Candid, unfiltered conversations between two friends in midlife sharing life as it really happens—no scripts, no polish, just truth. Between Us is where honest stories, real friendship, and meaningful connection come together. Through conversations about life's transitions, personal growth, relationships, identity, and self-trust, we explore what it means to navigate life with authenticity and courage. These aren't expert answers or perfectly packaged solutions. They're real conversations about being human—the messy, beautiful, challenging, and transformative parts of the journey. Because sometimes hearing someone else tell the truth helps us reconnect with our own. Pull up a chair and join us. You're not alone in the questions you're asking or the path you're walking.

Publisher

Jill & Shakira

Category

education · health & fitness · society & culture

Language

en

Explicit

Yes

First episode

24 Jan 2023

Latest episode

19 Jun 2026

Latest episodes

12 of 46 episodes have a transcript.

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   19 Jun 2026

   46. When a Story Changes You

   In this episode of Between Us, Jill and Shakira dive into an unexpected conversation sparked by a shared obsession with heated rivalry. What begins with updates about sore muscles, major life changes, and an upcoming surgery quickly unfolds into a deeper exploration of intimacy, vulnerability, self-love, and what it means to be fully seen. Together, they unpack why heated rivalry has resonated so deeply—not just as a queer love story, but as a powerful portrayal of emotional honesty, healthy ...

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   10 Apr 2026TRANSCRIPT

   45. Dancing with the Rhythms of Life

   In this episode, we trace a funny, awkward wedding dance story into a deeper conversation about fear of being seen, judgment, and the longing for more ease, fun, and romance in life. Shakira shares a surreal five rhythms “dance church” experience that forces her to confront discomfort in a brightly lit room full of mirrors and strangers, while Jill recounts a powerful breath work session that offers emotional release and a safe space to scream, cry, and let go. Together we explore how dance, ...

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   21 Dec 2024

   44. Doing Nothing is Everything

   What if indulging in your guilty pleasures could lead to a life-changing journey of self-awareness and creativity? On this episode of the Listener Don't Podcast, we embark on a lively exploration of fashion, inspiration, and personal balance. Our conversation kicks off with a playful exchange about the personal "drugs" that light up our days, from the allure of television marathons to the thrill of shopping. As we navigate the often uninspiring world of fast fashion, particularly on platforms...

Inside a recent episode

45. Dancing with the Rhythms of Life

Published 10 Apr 2026 · Transcript excerpt

[…] So it was an inhale into the belly and then another inhale into the heart and then your full exhale, which was audible or not. And so we were laying on the ground and doing this breathwork exercise. And then during it, she had us say, like, some mantras, right? Some things that may or may not feel comfortable for you. If you're comfortable, you can speak it out loud. If not, you can say it to yourself. Allow any emotions to come up. If you're going to cry, like, let it be there, let whatever happens be there. And then there was another moment where she had a scream. And I was just like, Oh, well, that felt fascinating because I felt like I've had a scream for a long time. […]

Reach and audience

Public platform figures. Ratings count people who left a rating, not total listeners.

Apple Podcasts (US)

5.0 / 5

7 ratings

Spotify

4.8 / 5

4,889 ratings

Podcast Authority Score: 6 / 100

A composite of feed quality, social presence, YouTube performance and engagement. Read the methodology.

Quality

1

Social presence

0

YouTube

0

Engagement

27

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