Made by Steve's friends, with Steve friends.
Loving You: The Untold Sondheim
Claim This Podcastby Martin Milnes & Peter E Jones
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Made by Steve's friends, with Steve friends.
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2/2/2026
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Recent Episodes
May 21, 2026
Move On | 'Goodbye for Now' from Sondheim's Friends and Family
<p>In our series finale, Steve’s loved ones unite ‘one last time’ - retracing the final weeks, days and moments prior to Steve’s passing on November 26th 2021. Recalling final memories and precious encounters, we celebrate not ‘Sondheim The Icon’, but our friend Steve.</p><p> </p>‘I think we choose our friends. Somehow their presence in your life makes you feel good. Steve made me feel good. And when you embrace a friend, you know if the feeling is real. And I want to believe, anyway, that he knew that.’ – John Kander<p><br>Steve’s legendary interpreter Bernadette Peters then joins Martin and PJ to share what Steve has meant to her – and how Steve appeared to Bernadette after his death. But how do Martin and PJ feel about Steve now that their two-year quest to discover The Untold Sondheim has finally reached its conclusion?</p>‘You’re always there for me. Even though you’re gone. Thank you. Thank you. For you’re always there for me.’ – Bernadette Peters<p> </p><p><strong>CHAPTERS</strong></p><p>00:00 Maria & PJ: ‘Now you’re on your own’</p><p>02:15 A Pageantry of Celebration</p><p>06:44 Time Catches Up with Steve</p><p>15:14 The Final Meetings</p><p>27:55 ‘Titan of The American Musical’<br>37:36 Missing Steve</p><p>50:22 Bernadette Peters: ‘I Had A Dream’</p><p>1:02:28 PJ & Martin: 'You can never say thank you enough’<br>1:18:22 The Next Collaboration: PJ's New Musical<br>1:26:14 Credits with Mehran James McCullough<br>1:28:58 Stephen Sondheim: 'Anyone Can Whistle'</p><p> </p><p><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/loving-you-the-untold-sondheim/id1873942532"><strong>Subscribe to Loving You: The Untold Sondheim</strong></a> on Apple and all good podcast apps to get every episode the moment it is released.<br> </p><p><strong>SUPPORT THE SHOW:</strong></p><p>► <strong>SUBSCRIBE</strong> to Loving You: The Untold Sondheim in your podcast app and be sure to get every episode the moment it is released.</p><p>► <strong>RATE & REVIEW </strong>Leave a review in your podcast app and tell other Sondheim fans why they should listen.</p><p>► <strong>SHARE </strong>Don't keep it to yourself! Share Loving You: The Untold Sondheim with other Sondheim fans you know.</p><p>► <strong>FOLLOW</strong> Loving You: The Untold Sondheim <a href="https://www.instagram.com/lovingyousondheimpodcast">on Instagram.</a></p><p> </p><p><strong>CREDITS</strong></p><p><strong>Hosts and Producers:</strong> Martin Milnes and Peter E. Jones</p><p><strong>Executive Producer:</strong> <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jason-caffrey">Jason Caffrey</a></p><p><strong>Produced in partnership with:</strong> <a href="http://creativekin.co.uk/sondheim">Creative Kin </a></p><p><strong>Mixing and Mastering:</strong> Chris Traves<br> <strong>Directed, Devised and Written by </strong>Martin Milnes</p><p> </p><p><strong>CAST AND VOICE ACTORS</strong></p><p>Alistair McGowan, Sarah Simmons, Maya Post, Jonathan Christopher, James Gower-Smith, Mehran James McCullough</p><p> </p><p><strong>DRAMATIC RE-ENACTMENTS<br>Written by: </strong>Martin Milnes<br><strong>Produced by: </strong>Peter E. Jones</p><p> </p><p><strong>MUSIC AND SCORE</strong></p><p><strong>Original Score Composed by:</strong> Peter E. Jones<br> <strong>Music and Lyrics of Stephen Sondheim: </strong>Courtesy of The Stephen Sondheim Trust</p><p><strong>Sondheim and Bernstein Instrumental Tracks:</strong> Provided by Broadway Studio Orchestra</p><p><strong>Music of Stephen Sondheim:</strong> Played by Colm Molloy</p><p><strong> </strong></p><p><strong>FEATURED SONGS & VOCAL PERFORMANCES</strong></p><p><strong>‘Finale’ from </strong><strong>Passion </strong><strong>(Sondheim): </strong>Sung by Maria Friedman and Michael Ball</p><p><strong>Selections from </strong><strong>Tim</strong><strong> (Cohen & Jones): </strong>Sung by Shane O’Riordan and Charlotte Page. Produced by Chris Traves with Musical Direction by Andy Massey.</p><p><strong>‘Anyone Can Whistle’ (Sondheim): </strong>Sung by Stephen Sondheim</p><p><strong>THANK YOU TO ALL OUR LISTENERS! <br>KEEP IN TOUCH</strong>: lovingyousondheimpodcast@gmail.com / @lovingyousondheimpodcast</p>
May 14, 2026
No One Has Ever Loved Me | The Love Story of Stephen Sondheim and Peter E. Jones: Act Two
<p>In the second of two deeply special episodes, Peter E. Jones shares the story of his life and love with Stephen Sondheim – for the first time in over 25 years. In what will be PJ’s official – and only – record of events, he shares the honest and accurate story of how their love transformed both their lives.</p>“I know the love – the deep, deep, deep love – that Steve had for PJ. He always said, ‘I’ll never be able to love, I’ll never be in love.’ And then it was unlocked, and he was in love.’ – Maria Friedman<p><br>30 years on, what can Maria and Mia’s observations tell PJ about the relationship? What was the incredible gesture made by Steve to PJ – which, at the time, PJ didn’t even realise was so special? And reflecting on a lifetime of love and friendship with Steve, what would PJ say to Steve now?</p>“We had something that never went away. There were times when it made things complicated, but I learned so much from it.” – Peter E. Jones<p><br><strong>CHAPTERS: </strong></p><p>00:00 Maria Friedman: ‘He was in love’</p><p>02:08 Steve & PJ - The Story So Far ...</p><p>04:16 ‘Passion’ and ‘Peyton Place’</p><p>11:15 Maria and Mia</p><p>17:56 ‘To PJ, With Love’</p><p>20:06 'Just Another Love Story’</p><p>31:00 ‘No One Has Ever Loved Me’</p><p>34:26 ‘Sunset Boulevard in a Weird Twist’</p><p>45:44 PJ & Steve: ‘Songs I Wish I’d Written’</p><p>50:01 ‘Bluellow’ from ‘Peyton Place’ by Peter E. Jones</p><p>58:13 PJ: ‘You are your choices’</p><p> </p><p><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/loving-you-the-untold-sondheim/id1873942532"><strong>Subscribe to Loving You: The Untold Sondheim</strong></a> on Apple and all good podcast apps to get every episode the moment it is released.<br> </p><p><strong>SUPPORT THE SHOW:</strong></p><p>► <strong>SUBSCRIBE</strong> to Loving You: The Untold Sondheim in your podcast app and be sure to get every episode the moment it is released.</p><p>► <strong>RATE & REVIEW </strong>Leave a review in your podcast app and tell other Sondheim fans why they should listen.</p><p>► <strong>SHARE </strong>Don't keep it to yourself! Share Loving You: The Untold Sondheim with other Sondheim fans you know.</p><p>► <strong>FOLLOW</strong> Loving You: The Untold Sondheim <a href="https://www.instagram.com/lovingyousondheimpodcast">on Instagram.</a></p><p> </p><p><strong>CREDITS</strong></p><p><strong>Hosts and Producers:</strong> Martin Milnes and Peter E. Jones</p><p><strong>Executive Producer:</strong> <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jason-caffrey">Jason Caffrey</a></p><p><strong>Produced in partnership with:</strong> <a href="http://creativekin.co.uk/sondheim">Creative Kin </a></p><p><strong>Mixing and Mastering:</strong> Chris Traves<br> <strong>Directed, Devised and Written by </strong>Martin Milnes</p><p> </p><p><strong>CAST AND VOICE ACTORS</strong></p><p>Matt Bartlett, Mehran James McCullough.</p><p><strong>DRAMATIC RE-ENACTMENTS<br>Written by: </strong>Martin Milnes<br><strong>Produced by: </strong>Peter E. Jones</p><p> </p><p><strong>MUSIC AND SCORE</strong></p><p><strong>Original Score Composed by:</strong> Peter E. Jones<br> <strong>Music and Lyrics of Stephen Sondheim: </strong>Courtesy of The Stephen Sondheim Trust</p><p><strong>Sondheim Instrumental Tracks:</strong> Provided by Broadway Studio Orchestra</p><p><strong>Music of Stephen Sondheim:</strong> Played by Colm Molloy</p><p><strong>Theme from </strong><strong>Now, Voyager</strong><strong> (Steiner): </strong>Played by the National Philharmonic Orchestra, conducted by Charles Gerhardt</p><p><strong> </strong></p><p><strong>FEATURED SONGS & VOCAL PERFORMANCES</strong></p><p><strong>Excerpts from </strong><strong>Passion </strong><strong>(Sondheim): </strong>Sung by Maria Friedman, Jere Shea and Marin Mazzie</p><p><strong>‘Numbers’ from </strong><strong>Numbers </strong><strong>(Peter E. Jones):</strong> Sung by James Martin, Angela Parks, Diann Hinson and Peter E. Jones</p><p><strong>‘Bluellow’ from </strong><strong>Peyton Place </strong><strong>(Peter E. Jones): </strong>Sung by Lauren Jones and Shane O’Riordan. Produced by Chris Traves with Musical Direction by Gareth Valentine and piano accompaniment by Sam Young</p>
May 7, 2026
Something Just Broke | The Love Story of Stephen Sondheim and Peter E. Jones: Act One
<p>In the first of two deeply special episodes, Peter E. Jones shares the story of his life and love with Stephen Sondheim – for the first time in over 25 years. In what will be PJ’s official – and only – record of events, he shares the honest and accurate account of how their love transformed both their lives.</p>“PJ was the love of his life. The first person that he really, really, really deeply loved – and wanted it to work out. Big time.” – Mia Farrow<p>How did a letter from a 24-year-old songwriter lead to Stephen Sondheim falling in love – for the first time in his life? What made this a unique meeting of minds and hearts? And what did Mia Farrow observe about Steve and PJ’s love – which only now PJ can understand for himself?</p><p> </p><p>“He saw what I couldn’t see in me, certainly. He saw an individual. He saw aspects of himself, I would say, of lacking self-worth but being talented” – Peter E. Jones</p><p> </p><p><strong>CHAPTERS:</strong><br>00:00 Mia Farrow: ‘PJ was the love of his life’</p><p>02:00 Introducing Steve & PJ</p><p>05:10 PJ in Wyoming and Denver: ‘A Little Songwriter’</p><p>15:02 A Letter to Stephen Sondheim</p><p>20:14 Meeting Steve at 246</p><p>29:39 A Weekend In The Country</p><p>38:47 A Meeting Of Minds </p><p>43:10 Steve’s Inner Circle</p><p>54:05 PJ & Mia: ‘The Valley Of Regret’</p><p> </p><p><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/loving-you-the-untold-sondheim/id1873942532"><strong>Subscribe to Loving You: The Untold Sondheim</strong></a> on Apple and all good podcast apps to get every episode the moment it is released.<br> </p><p><strong>SUPPORT THE SHOW:</strong></p><p>► <strong>SUBSCRIBE</strong> to Loving You: The Untold Sondheim in your podcast app and be sure to get every episode the moment it is released.</p><p>► <strong>RATE & REVIEW </strong>Leave a review in your podcast app and tell other Sondheim fans why they should listen.</p><p>► <strong>SHARE </strong>Don't keep it to yourself! Share Loving You: The Untold Sondheim with other Sondheim fans you know.</p><p>► <strong>FOLLOW</strong> Loving You: The Untold Sondheim <a href="https://www.instagram.com/lovingyousondheimpodcast">on Instagram.</a></p><p> </p><p><strong>CREDITS</strong></p><p><strong>Hosts and Producers:</strong> Martin Milnes and Peter E. Jones</p><p><strong>Executive Producer:</strong> <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jason-caffrey">Jason Caffrey</a></p><p><strong>Produced in partnership with:</strong> <a href="http://creativekin.co.uk/sondheim">Creative Kin </a></p><p><strong>Mixing and Mastering:</strong> Chris Traves<br> <strong>Directed, Devised and Written by </strong>Martin Milnes</p><p> </p><p><strong>CAST AND VOICE ACTORS</strong></p><p>Alistair McGowan, Eddie Andrews, Charlotte Page, Arthur Magee, Victoria Ward, Jonathan Christopher, Mehran James McCullough – and featuring Steven Clar as himself (by special arrangement with Claire Stevens).</p><p><br><strong>DRAMATIC RE-ENACTMENTS<br>Written by: </strong>Martin Milnes<br><strong>Produced by: </strong>Peter E. Jones</p><p> <br><strong>MUSIC AND SCORE</strong></p><p><strong>Original Score Composed by:</strong> Peter E. Jones<br> <strong>Music and Lyrics of Stephen Sondheim: </strong>Courtesy of The Stephen Sondheim Trust</p><p><strong>Sondheim Instrumental Tracks:</strong> Provided by Broadway Studio Orchestra</p><p><strong>Music of Stephen Sondheim:</strong> Played by Colm Molloy</p><p><strong> </strong></p><p><strong>FEATURED SONGS & VOCAL PERFORMANCES</strong></p><p><strong>‘Beautiful Briny’ (Sherman & Sherman): </strong>Sung by Mike Sammes</p><p><strong>‘Perfect Strangers’ (Rodgers & Charnin):</strong> Sung by Jane Powell and Hugh O’Brian.</p><p><strong>Excerpts from </strong><strong>Passion </strong><strong>(Sondheim): </strong>Sung by Donna Murphy and Peter E. Jones</p>
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