Lunation

About Lunation

New moon curls. Full moon rounds. Between waxing and waning is a whole arc of changing light, and no single moment tells the full story. Lunation is that trajectory, where authority pulls and identity holds its orbit. 朔，新月初升；望，满月当空。一个周期，两个极点，之间是无数种光的形态。《朔望》是一档关于文化、权力与身份的英文深度访谈播客。每期对话来自全球的国际嘉宾，在主流视野边缘打捞不同文化的声音。我们相信，最重要的思考往往发生在语言与语言之间，在制度与个体之间，在一种文化逻辑抵达另一种文化之前。 www.moontingli.com (https://www.moontingli.com?utm_medium=podcast)

Publisher

The orbit of power, identity, and the dynamics in between that shape human affairs.

Category

science · society & culture

Language

en

Explicit

No

First episode

27 Jan 2025

Latest episode

8 Sept 2026

Latest episodes

10 episodes in the feed.

1. 

   8 Sept 2026

   Institutional Gravity Chapter 1: The Gravity

   You may be leaving the United Nations. You may have left a Silicon Valley giant, a top consultancy, a ministry, a university with high walls, a global NGO. You may still be inside one of them, quietly circling the exit. The flag on the building doesn’t matter. The mechanics don’t change. If you have ever lent your beliefs to a big institution — handed it your conviction, your best years, your sense of what your work was for — then you have lived inside this gravity. You already know it in your body. This book just names it. Adapted from Moon Ting Li’s manuscript ‘Institutional Gravity’, this audiobook is an anatomy of elite institutional life shaped by two gravitational forces: the pull from states and political interests toward an organization, and the pull from the organization toward the people who inhabit it, shaping their identities, perceptions, sense of authority, and what remains after they leave. If you’ve recently exited a major institution and are finding your footing outside the frame, we’re casting for our Exit Interview series. More info here (https://lunation.fm/posts/call-for-podcast-168402985). Find us also on:Patreon (http://lunation.fm) | Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/4bm5BdZT6zBy21zM85DHtL) | YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdUve9paR-BWBPI-zQfb371VR42NP-r7O) | Apple Podcasts (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/lunation/id1850816915) | Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/lunation.fm) | Facebook (https://facebook.com/lunation.fm) | LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/lunationfm) Get full access to Lunation at www.moontingli.com/subscribe (https://www.moontingli.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_4)

2. 

   29 Jul 2026

   Lunation · Season One: Fem Renaissance · Episode 9: Her Body Is Not A Border

   July 30th marks the World Day against Trafficking in Persons. As the global community focuses on sweeping geopolitical statistics and border enforcement data, we too often lose sight of the individual human realities behind them—specifically, the systemic, gender-based violence endured by migrant women. For many, the phrase “human trafficking” evokes highly dramatic, cinematic imagery of physical abductions or border crossings in locked cargo containers. But for frontline expert of LEFÖ-IBF—the Intervention Center for Trafficked Women in Austria—the reality is far more insidious, structural, and deeply intertwined with everyday labor markets. In this episode of Fem Renaissance, we sit down with Tamara Schmidt, Interim Head of LEFÖ-IBF to break through the traditional crime-centric and immigration-focused narratives that dominate public discourse, reframing trafficking for what it truly is: a severe manifestation on the continuous spectrum of gender-based violence. When states approach trafficking purely through the lens of immigration enforcement or border control, they consistently miss the lived realities of women. Trafficking does not happen in a vacuum; it is explicitly engineered by pre-existing economic precarity, gender inequality, and structural immigration barriers that systematically push women into high-risk situations. Within Austria, an affluent and ostensibly safe country, these systemic vulnerabilities expose women to deep exploitation across everyday domestic industries rather than hidden criminal underworlds. The care economy and domestic work isolate women within private homes where exploitation easily hides behind closed doors, while the highly seasonal, fast-moving nature of hospitality and agriculture leaves workers prone to deceptive hiring practices. Similarly, within sex work, overlapping legal and social vulnerabilities are frequently weaponized by exploiters to maintain control. Understanding how traffickers maintain power requires looking past the myth of physical locks and chains. The psychological and structural mechanics of control turn what a woman might initially perceive as “bad work” into a trafficking situation. It begins with deception regarding wages and working hours, evolving into fabricated debt bondage and the physical confiscation of identity documents. Traffickers then compound this isolation by weaponizing the state itself, exploiting a survivor’s fear of authorities, legal precarity, or immediate deportation to ensure their silence. Consequently, when women attempt to exit, the first step is rarely a dramatic escape. It often begins subtly: confiding in a client, reaching out to a colleague, or a chance identification by a healthcare professional. Yet, leaving is only the first hurdle. Survivors frequently encounter forms of “secondary violence”—the institutional re-traumatization caused by slow legal proceedings, restrictive residency frameworks that pressure women into cooperating with criminal prosecution, and persistent social stigma. As a state-recognized victim protection organization operating nationwide, LEFÖ-IBF provides an essential lifeline that shifts the focus entirely from institutional demands back to human rights and personal autonomy. The moment a survivor makes contact or is identified, Schmidt’s team deploys an immediate crisis protocol that prioritizes safety over bureaucracy. This includes securing anonymous accommodation in emergency shelters with confidential addresses, providing immediate medical and psychological stabilization, and offering rights-based legal advocacy to navigate employment laws and residence rights without placing conditional demands on the survivor. Ultimately, this conversation challenges us to look beyond borders and statistics, demanding an anti-trafficking strategy rooted in genuine feminist solidarity and human rights. Watch the full interview to explore the complex regional dynamics of Central Europe, the specific mechanisms of the Austrian protection framework, and what it takes to rebuild autonomy after exploitation. Guest: Tamara Schmidt, Interim Head of LEFÖ-IBF Austria Listen & Support: Lunation Podcast | Season 1: Fem Renaissance Learn More: Visit lefoe.at (https://lefoe.at) to learn more about their nationwide counseling, intervention, and political advocacy work for migrant women. Get full access to Millennial Intellectual at www.moontingli.com/subscribe (https://www.moontingli.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_4)

3. 

   3 Nov 2025

   Lunation · Season One: Fem Renaissance · Episode 8: Between Worlds: Children of Migrants

   When you grow up between worlds, belonging becomes both a gift and a ghost. In this episode of the Fem Renaissance podcast, I sit down with Debbie Galias, a young Filipino woman born and raised in Austria, to trace the invisible lines connecting identity, family, and the emotional inheritance of migration. We begin with the contradictions of Asian parenting, where love is often expressed through protection, expectation, and quiet sacrifice. For many of us, people-pleasing becomes a survival strategy, while social anxiety lingers as its by-product. In this tension between devotion and silence, we learn to read love through performance. But what happens when that conditioning meets the Western ideal of individualism? When “fitting in” demands not only language but also the soft erasure of our cultural selves? We discuss navigating performative DEI (Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion) in white-dominant workspaces, where diversity can be celebrated on paper but rarely embodied in power dynamics. We talk about the emotional cost of being the token Asian woman in the room, the quiet exhaustion of constantly translating ourselves — culturally, linguistically, emotionally. At the heart of this conversation lies something fundamental: the meaning of family. In many Asian cultures, family is not simply personal — it is moral, social, and collective. It defines who we are before we even begin to define ourselves. Yet for daughters who grow up abroad, that meaning shifts: between love and obligation, pride and guilt, roots and the restless pull of independence. Every time I record a new episode, I’m reminded how rare openness truly is — how, when women sit together without pretence, the conversation becomes something deeper than an interview. With Debbie, I was moved by her willingness to share her vulnerabilities — not as weakness, but as a quiet strength. Through her stories, I saw the tenderness, resilience, and compassion that define so many children of migrants. What I hope to do with Fem Renaissance is to step outside the narratives of achievement that dominate the elite bubble — to listen instead to the voices that speak from struggle, hope, and the everyday work of becoming. Because that, too, is power: the kind that doesn’t need to perform. This conversation is not about choosing between cultures; it’s about learning to live between them, fully. To hold the contradictions without apology. To see both love and pain as inheritances — not opposites. 🎧 Listen to Between Worlds: Children of Migrants.Thank you for subscribing. Leave a comment (https://www.femrenaissance.com/p/children-of-migrants/comments?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_5) or share this episode (https://www.femrenaissance.com/p/children-of-migrants?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=podcast&utm_content=share&action=share&token=eyJ1c2VyX2lkIjoxOTU1MTc5MjQsInBvc3RfaWQiOjE3Nzg2MjIwNCwiaWF0IjoxNzc2ODAxNTM3LCJleHAiOjE3NzkzOTM1MzcsImlzcyI6InB1Yi0zNjA2NjgxIiwic3ViIjoicG9zdC1yZWFjdGlvbiJ9.AYwrHdWDY3u87a-ZKz7RRWdcFy4lEpcPBDc6NBlgk34&utm_campaign=CTA_5). Get full access to Millennial Intellectual at www.moontingli.com/subscribe (https://www.moontingli.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_4)

4. 

   1 Jul 2025

   Lunation · Season One: Fem Renaissance · Episode 7: Born Like Trans: Reowning Gender Identity

   Clara Reinisch is one of the two transgender women I interviewed during Pride Month. She is a talented classical pianist from Germany currently studying in Vienna whose eyes remind me of Anne Hathaway. I sat down with her for a conversation that traces a deeply personal and politically charged journey of becoming. We talked about the full arc of a transgender life—the experience of being born, growing up, and transforming in a world that questions your right to exist at every turn. This interview dives into: * The early awareness of identity and the emotional weight of that realization * What “transition” means in the trans community, psychologically, physically and socially * The evolving meaning of femininity and the weight it carries * True allyship beyond rainbow logos and performative support This is not just a story of transition.It’s a story of resistance and tenderness.Of navigating a world where survival itself becomes a daily act of courage. This conversation is part of Fem Renaissance’s ongoing series amplifying voices living at the edge of culture—and pushing the world forward from there. 👉 Watch the full interview: “Born Like Trans: Reclaiming Gender Identity”Thank you for subscribing. Leave a comment (https://www.femrenaissance.com/p/born-like-trans/comments?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_5) or share this episode (https://www.femrenaissance.com/p/born-like-trans?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=podcast&utm_content=share&action=share&token=eyJ1c2VyX2lkIjoxOTU1MTc5MjQsInBvc3RfaWQiOjE2NzI5NDk1NSwiaWF0IjoxNzc2ODAxNTM3LCJleHAiOjE3NzkzOTM1MzcsImlzcyI6InB1Yi0zNjA2NjgxIiwic3ViIjoicG9zdC1yZWFjdGlvbiJ9.q4Jw2MlD5phcSfG-FZwvPVusCOiL_OJcKqeZ_pQt-KI&utm_campaign=CTA_5). Get full access to Millennial Intellectual at www.moontingli.com/subscribe (https://www.moontingli.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_4)

5. 

   15 Jun 2025

   Lunation · Season One: Fem Renaissance · Episode 6: Sex and Power (Part 2): A Kink Start to Shadowed Desire, Healing, Resistance and Liberation

   At a time when comprehensive sex education remains patchy or nonexistent, and mainstream pornography is shaping many young people’s first impressions of sex, we’re seeing a generation grow up with warped ideas of power, consent, and connection. Without real conversations, curiosity gets hijacked by performance, and intimacy loses its grounding in truth, mutuality, and choice. This is why voices like Amsterdomme (http://amsterdomme.com)’s are not only necessary but urgent. As a sex worker, dominatrix, and kink educator, she brings lived experience and body-based knowledge that often gets erased from public discourse. If feminism is to be inclusive, liberatory, and intersectional, it must also reflect sex workers’ voices—not as a fringe perspective, but as vital contributors to conversations around autonomy, labour, consent, and bodily integrity. This is not just about sex. It’s about breaking the silence, reclaiming our stories, and expanding what’s possible in how we relate to our identities, to each other, and the world—across genders and generations. Tune in to the second half of the episode, and get ready to think differently about power, intimacy, and healing—not in theory, but in the messy, embodied reality where change begins. Thank you for subscribing. Leave a comment (https://www.femrenaissance.com/p/sex-and-power-2/comments?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_5) or share this episode (https://www.femrenaissance.com/p/sex-and-power-2?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=podcast&utm_content=share&action=share&token=eyJ1c2VyX2lkIjoxOTU1MTc5MjQsInBvc3RfaWQiOjE2NTk0NTgwMywiaWF0IjoxNzc2ODAxNTM3LCJleHAiOjE3NzkzOTM1MzcsImlzcyI6InB1Yi0zNjA2NjgxIiwic3ViIjoicG9zdC1yZWFjdGlvbiJ9.JE3_6Enwflxu1vBlrTuODEP599Z5o6XgbfCQJmEDWQU&utm_campaign=CTA_5). Get full access to Millennial Intellectual at www.moontingli.com/subscribe (https://www.moontingli.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_4)

6. 

   14 Jun 2025

   Lunation · Season One: Fem Renaissance · Episode 5: Sex and Power (Part 1): A Kink Start to Shadowed Desire, Healing, Resistance and Liberation

   In celebration of Vienna Pride Month, we’re joined by Amsterdomme (http://amsterdomme.com)—a dominatrix, sex worker, kink coach and author of Goddess Gold: A Domme’s First Love (https://www.amazon.com/Goddess-Gold-Dommes-Steamy-Romance-ebook/dp/B0BLHWRKVW). Once an anxious people-pleaser herself, she is now a ‘pleasure punk’ who is radically reframing how we think about power, pleasure, and healing. Through her work at the intersection of sexuality, embodiment, political resistance and social liberation, she invites us to challenge the shame, silence, and stigma that still surround gender and sexuality—especially for women, queer folks, sex workers and anyone whose desires and identities have been pushed to the margins. Far from just erotic spectacle, her approach to BDSM is deeply intentional: a body-based practice of presence, healing, and resistance. Once an anxious people-pleaser herself, Amsterdomme now works with clients to reclaim their agency and shadow desires, using conscious kink to move trauma through the body, unlock altered states of consciousness, and rewrite stories around dominance, submission, and control. This Pride Month, she took the stage at TEDx Donauinsel to share her insights into the transformational power of kink, reminding us that our erotic selves are not separate from our healing selves and that pleasure is not a guilty indulgence but a natural force for reclaiming our bodies and boundaries. In this episode, we explore how BDSM is being used as a healing modality to rewire the nervous system and expand our capacity for joy. We talk about the shame that’s often wrapped around female and queer sexuality, the thrill of consensual humiliation, and why pleasure—especially when unapologetically claimed—is an act of feminist resistance. We also dive into ageism in the kink world and beyond. Amsterdomme’s work challenges the myth that desire and desirability fade with age. Her writing and coaching speak to those rediscovering their erotic selves later in life, proving that it’s never too late to access intimacy, autonomy, and deep embodiment. This is a dialogue about sex and power, to move through shame, trauma, and social conditioning to access deeper truths about our authentic selves, vulnerability and pleasure, no matter our age, gender or history, which is not only valid, but vital. Let’s begin. Thank you for subscribing. Leave a comment (https://www.femrenaissance.com/p/sex-and-power-1/comments?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_5) or share this episode (https://www.femrenaissance.com/p/sex-and-power-1?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=podcast&utm_content=share&action=share&token=eyJ1c2VyX2lkIjoxOTU1MTc5MjQsInBvc3RfaWQiOjE1NTgwNTMxMSwiaWF0IjoxNzc2ODAxNTM3LCJleHAiOjE3NzkzOTM1MzcsImlzcyI6InB1Yi0zNjA2NjgxIiwic3ViIjoicG9zdC1yZWFjdGlvbiJ9.Uew3d90hBANAoXd1cWFbCWkmhB2uOXnbZ2lB9yvZaCk&utm_campaign=CTA_5). Get full access to Millennial Intellectual at www.moontingli.com/subscribe (https://www.moontingli.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_4)

7. 

   15 May 2025

   Lunation · Season One: Fem Renaissance · Episode 4: Not in My Name

   In this powerful and deeply personal episode of the Fem Renaissance Podcast, I sit down with Dalia Sarig—an Austrian woman of Jewish descent, longtime activist, and vocal advocate for Palestinian rights. Born into a family shaped by the trauma of the Holocaust and raised within a Zionist worldview, Dalia once lived in Israel, served in the army, and participated in a Zionist youth movement. But her encounter with Palestinian voices and historical truths led to a profound awakening—one that ultimately cost her her Israeli citizenship, her place in the Jewish community, and most painfully, her relationship with her own family. As Israel's brutal war on Gaza unfolded, Dalia dared to speak up—on national television, in public protests, and within activist circles in Austria—only to be disowned by her family, accused of betrayal, and silenced under the weight of weaponized accusations of antisemitism. This is not just a conversation about Palestine—it is a profound dialogue on conscience, courage, and breaking the silence born of fear. In the interview, Dalia shares her transformative journey, her feminist convictions, her critical observations of Zionist ideology in Austria and Germany—the very birthplace of Nazism—and her unwavering belief that solidarity, truth, and justice must transcend inherited trauma and nationalist ideologies. Join us as Dalia shares her transformative journey, her feminist voice, and her unshakable belief that solidarity, truth, and justice can—and must—transcend inherited trauma and nationalist ideology. If this conversation resonates with you, consider supporting the First Jewish Anti-Zionist Congress (http://www.juedisch-antizionistisch.at/en), taking place in Vienna from June 13–15, 2025 (http://www.juedisch-antizionistisch.at/en)—an unprecedented gathering amplifying Jewish voices for justice, against apartheid, and in solidarity with Palestine. Let's stay informed and stand with those breaking the silence. Thank you for subscribing. Leave a comment (https://www.femrenaissance.com/p/not-in-my-name/comments?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_5) or share this episode (https://www.femrenaissance.com/p/not-in-my-name?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=podcast&utm_content=share&action=share&token=eyJ1c2VyX2lkIjoxOTU1MTc5MjQsInBvc3RfaWQiOjE2MzYxMjkzOCwiaWF0IjoxNzc2ODAxNTM3LCJleHAiOjE3NzkzOTM1MzcsImlzcyI6InB1Yi0zNjA2NjgxIiwic3ViIjoicG9zdC1yZWFjdGlvbiJ9.yP354Ap4fBOKz60wsdHq2APAGmZOex9zjlRLfvat3Sw&utm_campaign=CTA_5). Get full access to Millennial Intellectual at www.moontingli.com/subscribe (https://www.moontingli.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_4)

8. 

   1 May 2025

   Lunation · Season One: Fem Renaissance · Episode 3: Dance like the world is watching

   Born in Russia and raised in Prague, Irina Ryzhakova is now a Vienna-based heel dancer, performer, and dance instructor. In her late twenties, she’s already turning heads—from captivating crowds as the “Street Catwoman” of Stephansplatz to gaining national recognition on the Czech & Slovakia’s Got Talent TV show in 2023. In this episode, I sit down with Irina to unpack the stereotypes around heel dancing and explore how women can reclaim their sensuality, embrace their confidence, rise above self-doubt, and navigate body image anxiety. We also reflect on what it means to redefine strength and the power of femininity through bold—and sometimes provocative—forms of self-expression. Thank you for subscribing. Leave a comment (https://www.femrenaissance.com/p/dance-like-the-world-is-watching/comments?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_5) or share this episode (https://www.femrenaissance.com/p/dance-like-the-world-is-watching?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=podcast&utm_content=share&action=share&token=eyJ1c2VyX2lkIjoxOTU1MTc5MjQsInBvc3RfaWQiOjE2MjMyMjQ2MywiaWF0IjoxNzc2ODAxNTM3LCJleHAiOjE3NzkzOTM1MzcsImlzcyI6InB1Yi0zNjA2NjgxIiwic3ViIjoicG9zdC1yZWFjdGlvbiJ9.2RfeXsLgVJjyVyjwUpozvZ6Yin0Yk629WaBqjs2to24&utm_campaign=CTA_5). Get full access to Millennial Intellectual at www.moontingli.com/subscribe (https://www.moontingli.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_4)

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   1 Mar 2025

   Lunation · Season One: Fem Renaissance · Episode 2: "Quitting is leading too."

   From an outsider’s perspective, working at the United Nations or international organizations may seem prestigious and impactful. However, after years within these institutions, some begin to question: Is this work truly as meaningful as they once imagined? When ideals clash with reality, how does one make a choice? In this episode of the Fem Renaissance Podcast, I wanted to explore this idea through the lens of my career at the UN—how these moments manifest and how we navigate them. So, I sat down for a discussion with Margaret Akullo, one of the former senior UN officials who made the bold and courageous decision of early retirement, voluntarily leaving the UN to pursue a path that truly aligns with their values. Such decisions never come lightly, and sharing the internal struggles behind them is even harder. I’m deeply inspired and honored to have Margaret as my guest on the Fem Renaissance Podcast as she opens up about the vulnerabilities of transition and the wisdom she’s gained in shifting from leadership tied to authority and institutional power to leadership driven by impact and purpose. Margaret’s journey is not just about career transition; it’s about redefining leadership. After stepping away from a system built on authority and bureaucracy whose constraints no longer aligned with her mission for meaningful change, how does she continue to drive change through influence rather than position? When reality fails to uphold ideals, how should we respond? When an institution’s culture and decision-making no longer align with personal convictions, what path should we take? Thank you for subscribing. Leave a comment (https://www.femrenaissance.com/p/quitting-is-leading-too/comments?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_5) or share this episode (https://www.femrenaissance.com/p/quitting-is-leading-too?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=podcast&utm_content=share&action=share&token=eyJ1c2VyX2lkIjoxOTU1MTc5MjQsInBvc3RfaWQiOjE1ODAyNTM4NSwiaWF0IjoxNzc2ODAxNTM3LCJleHAiOjE3NzkzOTM1MzcsImlzcyI6InB1Yi0zNjA2NjgxIiwic3ViIjoicG9zdC1yZWFjdGlvbiJ9.c5UspEci5MVeCKLsqM4bh7HMSg0BkoQF9dpRoycDZ4E&utm_campaign=CTA_5). Get full access to Millennial Intellectual at www.moontingli.com/subscribe (https://www.moontingli.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_4)

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    27 Jan 2025

    Lunation · Season One: Fem Renaissance · Episode 1: Navigating early-career uncertainties

    In this first episode of Fem Renaissance, we sit down with Anamaria Meshkurti to talk about her journey from working in international organizations to becoming a tech investor in Switzerland, and to investing in smart city projects in Saudi Arabia. Anamaria shares how she navigated career uncertainties, broke into a male-dominated industry, and built a brand that reflects her values. With a focus on personal growth, career pivots, and a little bit of humor, this conversation is a refreshing look at how women can create their own paths. Join us for an inspiring and down-to-earth chat about transformation, embracing change, and the importance of owning your story. Thank you for subscribing. Leave a comment (https://www.femrenaissance.com/p/podcast-anamaria-meshkurti/comments?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_5) or share this episode (https://www.femrenaissance.com/p/podcast-anamaria-meshkurti?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=podcast&utm_content=share&action=share&token=eyJ1c2VyX2lkIjoxOTU1MTc5MjQsInBvc3RfaWQiOjE1NTc3MDI1MiwiaWF0IjoxNzc2ODAxNTM3LCJleHAiOjE3NzkzOTM1MzcsImlzcyI6InB1Yi0zNjA2NjgxIiwic3ViIjoicG9zdC1yZWFjdGlvbiJ9.5wLv3uB-fypsjQzUfXSgJ-GOkaSjcfFAS0vZ1ROcAvQ&utm_campaign=CTA_5). Get full access to Millennial Intellectual at www.moontingli.com/subscribe (https://www.moontingli.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_4)

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