Magic in the Muck

About Magic in the Muck

Magic in the Muck: A Soul’s Compass for Change is a transformational podcast that guides listeners through life’s messiest moments — grief, upheaval, uncertainty, and awakening — with grounded wisdom and soulful insight. Hosted by international facilitator, therapist, and best-selling author Jennifer Nagel, this show offers a compass for navigating personal and collective transformation with strength, presence, and purpose. Each episode invites listeners to uncover the hidden magic within life’s challenges — where growth, healing, and realignment often begin. Through honest storytelling, reflective practices, and illuminating conversations, the podcast blends experiential psychology, spiritual awareness, and body-based wisdom to help people live more consciously, compassionately, and courageously. Whether you’re in the thick of chaos or standing at the edge of something new, Magic in the Muck is your sanctuary for inspiration, clarity, and soulful direction.

Publisher

Jennifer Nagel

Category

education · health & fitness · religion & spirituality

Language

en

Explicit

No

First episode

4 Jul 2025

Latest episode

28 Sept 2026

Latest episodes

51 episodes in the feed.

1. 

   28 Sept 2026

   You Don’t Have to Be Useful to Be Loved : When Helping Gets Tied to Your Worth

   Who are you when you’re not helping, teaching, fixing, accomplishing, or being the one others can depend on? In this solo episode, Jennifer explores the subtle difference between enjoying being useful and needing to be useful in order to feel valuable. Building on her recent conversations about caring without carrying and learning to receive, she looks beneath over-functioning and capability to the deeper human yearnings to matter, belong, and be loved — and invites us to experience the Self that remains when there is nothing we need to prove, fix, or earn. This is an invitation not to become less caring or capable, but to have more freedom: to contribute because it is a genuine choice rather than evidence that we have earned our place. What You’ll Hear: The subtle difference between enjoying being useful and needing usefulness to feel valuable How capability, responsibility, and attunement can be genuine resources while also becoming intertwined with identity and worth What may be happening underneath over-functioning when we look below the behaviour through the Satir Iceberg Why giving can sometimes feel safer than receiving — and how staying in the giver role can protect us from the vulnerability of having needs ourselves What it means to bring your being into your role without allowing the role to define your worth A gentle experiential practice for reconnecting with the Self underneath what you do Resources Mentioned Episode 49 - Interview with Robyn Vogel Meet the Host: Jennifer Nagel Jennifer Nagel is a soul-centered counsellor, international facilitator, and best-selling author who has spent over two decades helping people navigate chaos, reconnect with their inner wisdom, and create meaningful, authentic lives. Deeply rooted in the Satir Model and experiential approaches to transformation, Jennifer brings a grounded presence, sharp insight, and a deep trust in the resources of the human spirit. Her work spans continents and cultures — she has led programs and trainings in Canada, China, Kenya, Thailand, and Mexico, and currently serves as Director of Trainer Development with the Satir Institute of the Pacific. She is also senior faculty with the Banmen Satir China Management Centre. Jennifer is the author of Magic in the Muck: Finding Grace in Chaos, co-author of Virginia Satir’s Evolving Legacy, and founder and co-author of the collaborative books Therapists Are Human Too and The Healing Journey to Authenticity, created through book-writing retreats she co-facilitated in Mexico. Connect with the Host: Website: www.jennifernagelcounselling.com (http://www.jennifernagelcounselling.com/) https://www.congruentpractice.com/ (https://www.congruentpractice.com/) Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jennifernagel1/ (https://www.instagram.com/jennifernagel1/) Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jennifer.nagel.566 (https://www.facebook.com/jennifer.nagel.566) LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jennifernagelcounselling/ (https://www.linkedin.com/in/jennifernagelcounselling/) Costa Rica Retreat: Coming Home to Congruence: https://www.congruentpractice.com/costa-rica-retreat (https://www.congruentpractice.com/costa-rica-retreat) If you’re longing for a place to connect with others on a soul-aligned journey of healing, growth, and transformation — come join us in the Magic in the Muck: A Soul’s Compass Community, our private Facebook group. It’s a welcoming space to explore the themes from the podcast, share your own magic-in-the-mess moments, and receive inspiration to navigate life’s changes with grace and soul. 💫 Click here to join the community (https://www.facebook.com/groups/magicinthemuck) https://www.facebook.com/groups/magicinthemuck (https://www.facebook.com/groups/magicinthemuck) And if you’d like to receive occasional updates about new podcast episodes, upcoming retreats, and other soulful offerings, you can sign up for the Magic in the Muck email list here: 📬 Sign up to stay connected (subscribepage.io/REMTuN (http://subscribepage.io/REMTuN)) Magic in the Muck: A Soul’s Compass for Change is proud to be on the High Vibe Podcast Network. Check out Jennifer’s Gift in the Vault https://highvibepodcastnetwork.com/gifts (https://highvibepodcastnetwork.com/gifts) Share the Love ✨ If this episode lit something up in you… tag us on Instagram @HighVibeLeaders and let us know your biggest takeaway! 🦋 Don’t forget to rate & review — it helps us reach more conscious rebels like you. Listen & Subscribe 🎧 Apple Podcasts (https://magic-in-the-muck.captivate.fm/apple) 🎧 Spotify (https://magic-in-the-muck.captivate.fm/spotify) 🎧 Amazon Music (https://magic-in-the-muck.captivate.fm/amazon) 🎧 High Vibe Podcast Network (https://network.highvibepodcastnetwork.com/podcast/magic-in-the-muck)

2. 

   14 Sept 2026

   Why Receiving Love Can Feel So Hard — and How to Open Again | Robyn Vogel on Coming Back to Love

   What happens when the very strategies that once protected us begin to keep us from the love, intimacy and connection we long for? In this warm and deeply personal conversation, Jennifer sits down with trauma-informed therapist, couples specialist and Come Back to Love creator Robyn Vogel to explore protective patterns, over-giving, vulnerability, and the often-overlooked practice of receiving. Together they explore what it means to soften without abandoning ourselves — and to come back to the love that may have been there underneath the armour all along. What You’ll Hear: Why the protections we developed through loss, hurt and unmet needs can later make intimacy and connection harder to receive. How over-giving and self-sacrifice can actually become ways of avoiding receiving love, support and care. A simple way to notice the difference between a healthy boundary and protective armour that may now be keeping you distant from what you truly want. Why receiving can begin in tiny everyday moments — accepting a compliment, allowing support, saying “thank you,” and noticing the urge to minimize or push something away. What can happen when the roles of therapist, facilitator, parent or leader become places we hide — and how bringing more of our being into our roles creates deeper connection. The question Robyn returns to when she feels stuck: “What would love do?” Resources Mentioned Robyn VogelCome Back to Love: A Path to Healing (https://www.amazon.ca/Come-Back-Love-Path-Healing-ebook/dp/B0G3T62G5D/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1LCYHGPUZ97PL&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.Vc4V6tCaeNtpJMgY3w8HfIq5QpbiHjADh5awB4EcKtKX0g2qatKhVJXBL4lCYiSxtxWqvZqVF-YaF6f0TqU2jeXu1v5PKy2di5Uwu1yTRf9ZaMgTuAepoZApreP6jZPkqt_l8HIzTkF8akUITCFkQWqmt0nC5JDQjdBfIEBNQQvxdueL6AgmNwThQYJP4ktcNd4RZeK3iFqEBghCmgPSzvEfpDL4IA_X63mTqHrf_6QUXz9sk0YaEYBtrBHfRNQezNofJfBt_8E1rFru2qoJH9kf5zulOrilq4aCVoLFXEs.PZv2pxx0bszXDH4m2UAipmqDRFu2zg7gS68o1SmNM-8&dib_tag=se&keywords=come+back+to+love&qid=1789003265&sprefix=come+back+to+love%2Caps%2C201&sr=8-1) Featured Guest: Robyn Vogel Robyn Vogel, MA, is a trauma-informed spiritual guide, IFS-trained couples specialist, certified Love and Intimacy Coach, and creator of Come Back to Love®. She helps individuals and couples heal relational wounds, soften protective patterns, and build more emotionally secure, authentic connections. Robyn teaches internationally, leads transformational retreats, trains facilitators, and is the author of Come Back to Love: A Path to Healing. Follow Robyn Vogel: Website: www.comebacktolove.com (http://www.comebacktolove.com) Meet the Host: Jennifer Nagel Jennifer Nagel is a soul-centered counsellor, international facilitator, and best-selling author who has spent over two decades helping people navigate chaos, reconnect with their inner wisdom, and create meaningful, authentic lives. Deeply rooted in the Satir Model and experiential approaches to transformation, Jennifer brings a grounded presence, sharp insight, and a deep trust in the resources of the human spirit. Her work spans continents and cultures — she has led programs and trainings in Canada, China, Kenya, Thailand, and Mexico, and currently serves as Director of Trainer Development with the Satir Institute of the Pacific. She is also senior faculty with the Banmen Satir China Management Centre. Jennifer is the author of Magic in the Muck: Finding Grace in Chaos, co-author of Virginia Satir’s Evolving Legacy, and founder and co-author of the collaborative books Therapists Are Human Too and The Healing Journey to Authenticity, created through book-writing retreats she co-facilitated in Mexico. Connect with the Host: Website: www.jennifernagelcounselling.com (http://www.jennifernagelcounselling.com/) https://www.congruentpractice.com/ (https://www.congruentpractice.com/) Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jennifernagel1/ (https://www.instagram.com/jennifernagel1/) Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jennifer.nagel.566 (https://www.facebook.com/jennifer.nagel.566) LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jennifernagelcounselling/ (https://www.linkedin.com/in/jennifernagelcounselling/) Costa Rica Retreat: Coming Home to Congruence: https://www.congruentpractice.com/costa-rica-retreat (https://www.congruentpractice.com/costa-rica-retreat) If you’re longing for a place to connect with others on a soul-aligned journey of healing, growth, and transformation — come join us in the Magic in the Muck: A Soul’s Compass Community, our private Facebook group. It’s a welcoming space to explore the themes from the podcast, share your own magic-in-the-mess moments, and receive inspiration to navigate life’s changes with grace and soul. 💫 Click here to join the community (https://www.facebook.com/groups/magicinthemuck) https://www.facebook.com/groups/magicinthemuck (https://www.facebook.com/groups/magicinthemuck) And if you’d like to receive occasional updates about new podcast episodes, upcoming retreats, and other soulful offerings, you can sign up for the Magic in the Muck email list here: 📬 Sign up to stay connected (subscribepage.io/REMTuN (http://subscribepage.io/REMTuN)) Magic in the Muck: A Soul’s Compass for Change is proud to be on the High Vibe Podcast Network. Check out Jennifer’s Gift in the Vault https://highvibepodcastnetwork.com/gifts (https://highvibepodcastnetwork.com/gifts) Share the Love ✨ If this episode lit something up in you… tag us on Instagram @HighVibeLeaders and let us know your biggest takeaway! 🦋 Don’t forget to rate & review — it helps us reach more conscious rebels like you. Listen & Subscribe 🎧 Apple Podcasts (https://magic-in-the-muck.captivate.fm/apple) 🎧 Spotify (https://magic-in-the-muck.captivate.fm/spotify) 🎧 Amazon Music (https://magic-in-the-muck.captivate.fm/amazon) 🎧 High Vibe Podcast Network (https://network.highvibepodcastnetwork.com/podcast/magic-in-the-muck)

3. 

   31 Aug 2026

   Are You Caring—or Carrying? How to Stop Taking Responsibility for Everyone Else

   Do you find yourself noticing what everyone else needs — and then feeling responsible for making things better? In this solo episode, Jennifer explores the subtle shift from caring to carrying, and how trusting in another person’s capacity can help us stay deeply connected to others without losing connection with ourselves. Through a personal story about learning to step back as a parent, Jennifer explores what can become possible when we stop clearing the path for others and leave enough space for their own resources to emerge. What You’ll Hear: How being highly attuned to others can quietly become feeling responsible for their experience. The subtle but powerful difference between caring for someone and carrying what belongs to them. Why trust may be one of the missing ingredients when we’re trying to help someone we love. How stepping back can give others room to discover their own capacity — and give us the opportunity to see it too. Why therapists and helpers can care deeply about someone’s healing without becoming responsible for the outcome. A gentle experiential reflection to explore: What belongs to me, what belongs to them, and can I stay connected without leaving myself? Resources Mentioned www.congruentpractice.com/webinars (http://www.congruentpractice.com/webinars) Episode 47 with Johanna Lynn (https://network.highvibepodcastnetwork.com/podcast/magic-in-the-muck/episode/why-you-keep-repeating-the-same-relationship-patterns-and-what-it-takes-to-change-them-johanna-lynn-on-family-imprints) Meet the Host: Jennifer Nagel Jennifer Nagel is a soul-centered counsellor, international facilitator, and best-selling author who has spent over two decades helping people navigate chaos, reconnect with their inner wisdom, and create meaningful, authentic lives. Deeply rooted in the Satir Model and experiential approaches to transformation, Jennifer brings a grounded presence, sharp insight, and a deep trust in the resources of the human spirit. Her work spans continents and cultures — she has led programs and trainings in Canada, China, Kenya, Thailand, and Mexico, and currently serves as Director of Trainer Development with the Satir Institute of the Pacific. She is also senior faculty with the Banmen Satir China Management Centre. Jennifer is the author of Magic in the Muck: Finding Grace in Chaos, co-author of Virginia Satir’s Evolving Legacy, and founder and co-author of the collaborative books Therapists Are Human Too and The Healing Journey to Authenticity, created through book-writing retreats she co-facilitated in Mexico. Connect with the Host: Website: www.jennifernagelcounselling.com (http://www.jennifernagelcounselling.com/) https://www.congruentpractice.com/ (https://www.congruentpractice.com/) Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jennifernagel1/ (https://www.instagram.com/jennifernagel1/) Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jennifer.nagel.566 (https://www.facebook.com/jennifer.nagel.566) LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jennifernagelcounselling/ (https://www.linkedin.com/in/jennifernagelcounselling/) Costa Rica Retreat: Coming Home to Congruence: https://www.congruentpractice.com/costa-rica-retreat (https://www.congruentpractice.com/costa-rica-retreat) If you’re longing for a place to connect with others on a soul-aligned journey of healing, growth, and transformation — come join us in the Magic in the Muck: A Soul’s Compass Community, our private Facebook group. It’s a welcoming space to explore the themes from the podcast, share your own magic-in-the-mess moments, and receive inspiration to navigate life’s changes with grace and soul. 💫 Click here to join the community (https://www.facebook.com/groups/magicinthemuck) https://www.facebook.com/groups/magicinthemuck (https://www.facebook.com/groups/magicinthemuck) And if you’d like to receive occasional updates about new podcast episodes, upcoming retreats, and other soulful offerings, you can sign up for the Magic in the Muck email list here: 📬 Sign up to stay connected (subscribepage.io/REMTuN (http://subscribepage.io/REMTuN)) Magic in the Muck: A Soul’s Compass for Change is proud to be on the High Vibe Podcast Network. Check out Jennifer’s Gift in the Vault https://highvibepodcastnetwork.com/gifts (https://highvibepodcastnetwork.com/gifts) Share the Love ✨ If this episode lit something up in you… tag us on Instagram @HighVibeLeaders and let us know your biggest takeaway! 🦋 Don’t forget to rate & review — it helps us reach more conscious rebels like you. Listen & Subscribe 🎧 Apple Podcasts (https://magic-in-the-muck.captivate.fm/apple) 🎧 Spotify (https://magic-in-the-muck.captivate.fm/spotify) 🎧 Amazon Music (https://magic-in-the-muck.captivate.fm/amazon) 🎧 High Vibe Podcast Network (https://network.highvibepodcastnetwork.com/podcast/magic-in-the-muck)

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Apple Podcasts (US)

5.0 / 5

2 ratings