Make It. Share It.

About Make It. Share It.

Creativity, meet courage. We explore the simple yet profound process for overcoming fear, doubt, perfectionism, and other enemies of creativity: make it and share it.

Publisher

Wonder Road Studios

Category

arts · education

Language

en

Explicit

No

First episode

12 Sept 2023

Latest episode

7 Aug 2026

Latest episodes

30 episodes in the feed.

1. 

   7 Aug 2026

   Building The Cathedral | Craig Cunningham on Faith, Fables & Following a Dream

   Join us as we welcome back our very first return guest, author Craig Cunningham, to talk about his new fable, The Cathedral. Craig shares the origin of the story—a years-old vision of building an actual cathedral in the West Texas desert—and how that idea eventually merged with his own journey as a writer into the tale of Adeo, a boy called to build a cathedral of his own. Craig walks us through writing the first draft in three uninterrupted days in Terlingua, Texas, how he finds the voice for every one of his stories, and the four mentors who guide Adeo across his life: the traveler, the architect, the magician, and the angel. The conversation lands on the book's central twist...the cathedral was never the building. It was always being built in him. Listen to the full episode for: Craig's story of finding his novel's voice through a single opening line, and why that line changes everything for him creatively. A rich discussion on why self-promotion feels impossible for so many creatives, and why doing it anyway matters. Lauren and Steven's own stories of building something (a coffee shop, a music career) that shaped them more than the outcome ever could. Resources from the show: The Cathedral (https://a.co/d/02zI7Xli) Three Days In Terlingua (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZtOuv8sglc) Craig's Website (https://www.craigscunningham.com/) One Night In A Thousand Years Film Journal (https://kentstudio.substack.com/s/one-night-journal) The Cave, The Road, The Table, and The Fire (https://www.amazon.com/dp/191455325X?ref_=cm_sw_r_ffobk_cp_ud_dp_DVC6WCJ1W7NHRXST8Q55&bestFormat=true) Kurt Vonnegut On Buying An Envelope: (talking about when he tells his wife he’s going out to buy an envelope) Oh, she says well, you’re not a poor man. You know, why don’t you go online and buy a hundred envelopes and put them in the closet? And so I pretend not to hear her. And go out to get an envelope because I’m going to have a hell of a good time in the process of buying one envelope. I meet a lot of people. And, see some great looking babes. And a fire engine goes by. And I give them the thumbs up. And, and ask a woman what kind of dog that is. And, and I don’t know. The moral of the story is, is we’re here on Earth to fart around. And, of course, the computers will do us out of that. And, what the computer people don’t realize, or they don’t care, is we’re dancing animals.” Chapters 00:00 Welcome back from summer break 01:58 Craig Cunningham returns — first repeat guest 02:27 Reading the back cover of The Cathedral 04:31 The genesis: a cathedral in the West Texas desert 06:44 Writing in Terlingua — finding the voice 08:12 The opening line that unlocked the story 10:58 Reading the book's opening passage 17:38 The four mentors: traveler, architect, magician, angel 20:35 The ending — the cathedral burns, and the twist 22:39 "The project is never the project" 26:16 Lauren on Storied Provisions and process over outcome 27:20 You don't know the impact of what you build 28:57 Steven's winding path in music 32:04 "Obedience is the only strategy" 35:11 Why you have to actually tell people about your work 39:45 What's happened since The Cathedral released 42:28 Where to find Craig and the book 44:48 Buying local + the Vonnegut envelope story 47:58 One Night in a Thousand Years update 54:24 Closing thoughts

2. 

   6 Apr 2026

   What Seeds Know

   Join us on Make It. Share It. as we sit down with Donna Stuart, worship leader, songwriter, illustrator, and author from the Washington DC area, for a conversation that will change how you think about your creative delays, your hidden seasons, and the projects that won’t let you go. Donna has been making and sharing things for decades: touring with a band, leading worship, co-leading a church with her husband Ben, and quietly working on a poetry project called Growing (https://www.donnastuartcreative.com/products-featured-single-product-1) for the last ten years. Growing explores seven seasons of the soul, told in verse, from the darkness of a buried seed to the rise above the ground, through pruning, storms, death, and everything in between. And it finally landed. In this episode, Donna walks us through the creative odyssey behind Growing—from its origin in the idea that Dr. Seuss’s “useless” waiting place was actually anything but, to the five iterations it took before it could finally be held in someone’s hands. She shares why it became a coloring flip book (because publishers didn’t get it and self-printing cost $10,000), how QR codes saved the project, and why she now believes the decade of waiting wasn’t delay; it was formation. “Everything I create is out of the overflow of the love that I’ve received. And when my reception of love was broken — my creativity was broken too.” 🔑 Three Key Takeaways The Waiting Place Is Not Useless. Donna rejected Dr. Seuss’s characterization of the waiting place as useless, then spent a decade proving it wrong. Every chapter of Growing required her to actually live through the season she was writing about. The hidden years were the content. Misplaced Love Stifles Creativity. During COVID, Donna experienced a personal revival centered on one realization: she was receiving love from people who didn’t have the capacity to give it. Reorienting her loves: putting God first and right-sizing everything else gave her a new capacity to create. Your Market May Not Exist Yet. Create Anyway. From QR codes that didn’t exist when she first imagined Growing to Canva, which made her book possible years later, Donna’s story is a reminder that technology and audience often catch up. Your job is to keep making. Something Unexpected Donna wrote a Hallmark movie song in 40 minutes in a parking lot, while waiting to pick up her son from boxing. She had just prayed over her journal, asking God to let her take a swing at something she’d always dreamed of. The song went to the top of Hallmark’s list, and it was eventually performed by two Broadway stars: the actress who played Glinda and the actor who played Fiyero in Wicked. Listen to the Full Episode For: * The full story of Growing — ten years, five iterations, one coloring flip book * Why Donna called out The Giving Tree for codependency * What resilience actually looks like in the creative “cave” — and why she’s grateful for it * The Mercy Me bus story — self-promotion, humility, and the lesson she learned the hard way Resources * Growing by Donna Stuart — on YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjuP-QvZyTc&t=32s) * Growing (https://www.donnastuartcreative.com/products-featured-single-product-1) Book (https://www.donnastuartcreative.com/products-featured-single-product-1) * Donna Stuart Creative (https://www.donnastuartcreative.com/) * Instagram: @donnastuart * Anonymous: Jesus in His Hidden Years by Alicia Britt Cholé * Books by David Benner (https://www.amazon.com/stores/David-G.-Benner/author/B001KIAI0S?ref=sr_ntt_srch_lnk_1&qid=1775488851&sr=8-1&shoppingPortalEnabled=true&ccs_id=db32fbd2-1dfd-47ee-9cdf-eaa649b67d24) * The Critical Journey (https://a.co/d/0bnBpm2C) by Janet O. Hagberg & Robert A. Guelich Chapters 00:00 - Welcome and introduction to Donna Stuart's creative journey00:20 - Donna’s nostalgic story about "A Smoky Mountain Christmas" and childhood influences01:45 - The significance of seasons and waiting in creative growth02:58 - Personal revival during COVID and the impact on her understanding of love and creativity07:14 - The power of naming emotions and key turning points in spiritual and artistic journeys09:19 - Reflection on long-term projects, patience, and trusting the process13:09 - Donna’s latest project: a 10-year journey and the metaphor of seeds in darkness15:34 - Insights from children’s books and the importance of waiting on the “Useless Place”17:00 - The poetic process of her upcoming book about the underground seasons of growth18:29 - The story of creating a song for a Hallmark movie and trusting divine timing21:22 - The surprise of God's orchestration in unexpected collaborations and opportunities23:00 - The analogy of building Cowboy Stadium and technological breakthroughs in creative work26:34 - Embracing the cave as a place of renewal and deepening faith during difficulty29:58 - The journey of songwriting and the mystery of creative catch and release31:53 - The story of a chance connection leading to a meaningful project and unexpected moments of blessing40:16 - Finding resilience in the cave, understanding the seasons of life, and divine patience44:03 - Elijah, Ahab, and the small whisper—trusting God in the cave's quiet moments45:52 - The metaphor of underground roots and the rise of creative potential47:52 - The art of sharing: natural, organic, and rooted in love—overcoming the discomfort of self-promotion51:15 - Personal stories of youthful ambition, mistakes, and growth toward humility55:33 - The beauty of divine stories in our creative journey—trusting God's storytelling from seed to harvest58:44 - The modern realities of music industry and trusting divine timing59:44 - The importance of just saying “yes” and embracing the open unknowns60:53 - How to follow Donna’s work and stay connected through Instagram and her website61:24 - Closing thoughts—keep making, keep sharing, and trusting in the seasons of your creative story Get full access to Story Script at kentstudio.substack.com/subscribe (https://kentstudio.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_4)

3. 

   3 Mar 2026

   Too Broke To Drive Home

   What does it look like when a gifted musician graduates with a piano performance degree, has his car repossessed, gets evicted, and can’t land a job? In this episode of Make It. Share It. Kent and Cooper sit down with Dr. Oscar Williams, Jr., entrepreneur, producer, artist, teacher, and Associate Pastor at The Potter’s House, for a rich conversation about divine timing, creative seasons, and the kinds of conversations the creative community desperately needs to start having. From being too broke to drive home to St. Louis, to turning down a full fellowship at NYU’s Tisch School of Arts, to hearing Bishop T.D. Jakes unknowingly preach the perfect sermon on his first day as a new hire, Dr. Oscar’s journey is a masterclass in trusting the process, especially when the process is painful. He also shares what he’s making right now: a new podcast called Are You Okay?, a Good Friday musical theater production called Tell the Story coming to the Irving Arts Center on April 3rd, 2026, new music releasing under Oscar Williams & the Band of Life, and a creative consulting firm called Speak Life 3C. 🔑 Three Key Takeaways * Being ‘too broke to go back’ can be God’s most precise positioning. Sometimes he holds you in the hard place long enough for the breakthrough to actually stick. * The creative community is not talking enough about physical, mental, and financial wellbeing and that silence is costing us a generation of artists. * The relationships and skills you build while serving someone else’s vision are never wasted. They become the infrastructure for your own dreams. ✨ Something Unexpected Dr. Oscar was accepted into NYU’s Tisch School of Arts with a full fellowship, one of only two offered to 300 applicants from around the world, and turned it down. Find out why, and why he still keeps the acceptance letter. 🎧 Listen to the Full Episode For: * The full story of Dr. Oscar’s worst year in Dallas — including a repossessed car, eviction, and the single conversation with God that changed everything. * Why he was fired from a church in Atlanta on New Year’s Eve, and how that led directly to his role at The Potter’s House under Bishop T.D. Jakes. * A behind-the-scenes look at his upcoming Good Friday musical theater production, Tell the Story, retelling the resurrection through the eyes of four women who encountered Jesus. * His honest reflections on grief, overspiritualizing illness, and the financial patterns that keep creative people from building wealth. * Why creatives need to make a budget and how coming in under budget can earn you an investor for life. * When it’s time to stop building someone else’s dream and start betting on your own. 👤 About Dr. Oscar Williams, Jr. Dr. Oscar Williams, Jr. is a pastor, entrepreneur, producer, artist, teacher, and leadership developer based in the Dallas-Fort Worth area. He serves as Associate Pastor of Music and Creative Arts at The Potter’s House under Bishop T.D. Jakes and leads Speak Life LLC, a creative coaching and consulting firm helping individuals and organizations build stronger teams and realize their biggest creative visions. His music is released under the name Oscar Williams & the Band of Life. He is also the creator of the forthcoming podcast Are You Okay?, dedicated to the physical, mental, and financial well-being of creatives. 🎨 What Dr. Oscar Is Making Right Now * Are You Okay? Podcast — candid conversations with creatives about mental, physical, and financial health * Tell the Story — a Good Friday musical theater production at the Irving Arts Center, April 3, 2026 (1 PM & 8 PM) * New Music — upcoming single “Me and an Angel” releasing under Oscar Williams & the Band of Life * Speak Life 3C — creative coaching and consulting for individuals, leaders, and organizations 🔗 Resources & Links Follow Dr. Oscar Williams: oscarworldwide.com (https://oscarworldwide.com) speaklifellc.com (https://speaklifellc.com) Social media handle (Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, LinkedIn): @OscarWorldwide Music on Spotify & Apple Music: search Oscar Williams and the Band of Life ⏱ Chapter Timestamps 00:00 — Introduction & Welcome 01:14 — The Most Interesting Thing Dr. Oscar Has Learned Recently (Darkness, Light, and Ephesians) 03:33 — Turning Point: Moving to Dallas After His Father’s Death 07:00 — Rock Bottom in Dallas — Eviction, Repossession, and Rejected by Walmart 09:00 — The Church Audition That Was Already Closed (And How He Got the Job Anyway) 10:40 — When God Keeps You Too Broke to Go Home 13:38 — His Musical Background: Piano, Composition, and “Communicating” Through Song 15:30 — Part Two: The Atlanta Church, the NYU Fellowship, and Another Unexpected Turn 18:00 — Getting Accepted to NYU Tisch (Full Fellowship, One of Two) — and Saying No 20:00 — Getting Let Go on New Year’s Eve and What Bishop Jakes Preached His First Sunday 25:30 — What Dr. Oscar Is Making Now 27:00 — The Are You Okay? Podcast: Wellbeing for Creatives Nobody’s Talking About 29:00 — Tell the Story: A Good Friday Musical Theater Production (Irving Arts Center, April 3, 2026) 31:30 — Oscar Williams & the Band of Life + Speak Life 3C Consulting 33:00 — Grief, Over-Spiritualizing Illness, and Financial Stewardship for Creatives 39:00 — Knowing Your Identity Isn’t Based on What You Make 40:00 — The “Curse of the Creative” — From ‘This is the Best Thing I’ve Made’ to ‘Is This Even Good?’ in 48 Hours 43:00 — Retelling the Resurrection: Reimagining Judas, the Samaritan Woman, and Pastor J 46:00 — Building Community Before You Need It (And Discovering Who Wants to See You Win) 50:00 — Betting on Yourself vs. Faithfully Building Someone Else’s Dream 54:00 — Legacy Thinking: The Next 10-15 Years and Getting to That Beach 56:00 — Why Creatives Should Always Bring a Budget Get full access to Story Script at kentstudio.substack.com/subscribe (https://kentstudio.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_4)

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