About Make it Work — Conversations about people, work and tech
Make it Work is a podcast by Magnet.me, hosted by Laurens van Nues (Co-founder & CEO). In honest conversations with founders and leaders, we unpack the real decisions behind building organisations: what shaped them, what they got wrong, and how they think about leadership, culture, hiring, and the future of work. Magnet.me is the AI-driven career network turning recruitment from transactions into lasting relationships, connecting 450,000+ job seekers with 6,000+ companies.
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#S1E5: Why investing in people matters even more in the age of AI | Janine Vos (Rabobank)
In this episode, we sit down with Janine Vos, CHRO of Rabobank, to explore why investing in people matters even more in the age of AI. Janine highlights a growing dilemma: AI is automating the entry-level work through which young employees traditionally learn their profession. She explains why Rabobank continues to invest in talent and believes large employers should remain a “learning house” for the next generation. We also discuss why recruitment should focus on building long-term relationships, how Rabobank embeds diversity of backgrounds into succession planning, and what organizations can do to prepare their people for the future.
Her advice? Invest in human potential, stay curious, and remember that knowing yourself will be just as important as becoming AI-literate.
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9 Jun 2026
#S1E4: How AI will change work, but not as fast as Big Tech predicts? | Sander van ’t Noordende (Randstad)
In this episode, we sit down with Sander van 't Noordende, CEO of Randstad, the world's largest talent company, for a reality check on AI and the future of work. Sander draws a striking parallel with the dotcom era to illustrate how AI will transform the way we work. We dive into the Randstad Workmonitor, which shows that work-life balance is now almost on par with pay as a top priority for talent, and discuss why portfolio careers, the rise of the 50+ workforce, and an "assertive third" willing to quit are signals employers can't afford to ignore.His leadership advice? Have a clear point of view, build a team that complements you, and make sure you enjoy the ride. Listen to this episode if you're interested in AI and the future of work, talent strategy, workforce trends, portfolio careers, and leadership in times of change.
Explore the full Randstad Workmonitor at https://www.randstad.nl/werkgevers/kenniscentrum/workmonitor-2026
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9 Apr 2026
#S1E3: The organizational challenges for making AI work | Caroline Tervoort (KPMG)
Caroline Tervoort is Partner Business & HR Transformation at KPMG, and at the forefront of a complete rethink of how we manage the world of work. AI is changing what jobs look like, how teams collaborate, and what skills organizations need. KPMG's conviction? "It stays human work." But what does that actually mean when AI can attend multiple meetings at once and process data faster than any analyst?
In this episode of Make it Work, we explore what AI really means for hiring, why organizations need a fundamental redesign of how humans and AI work together, how to build hybrid human-AI teams, and what that means for leadership. Caroline also speaks openly about her journey as a woman in consulting, why it's essential to stay true to yourself, and why grabbing every opportunity with a Pippi Longstocking's mindset has been key to her success.
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12 Mar 2026
#S1E2: Diversity is smart business, not just a goal | Dieuwke van Buren (Equals)
#S1E2 — In this episode, we sit down with Dieuwke van Buren, co-founder and Managing Director of Equals, to discuss why closing the gender gap in tech and entrepreneurship is about more than just numbers. Following International Women’s Day 2026, we explore the power of visibility and how broadening our view of the workforce is key to solving today's talent scarcity.
We go behind the scenes of the Role Model Campaign to discuss the importance of identification, and unpack what it really takes for companies to build authentic talent communities. Dieuwke explains why inclusion has shifted from being a "diversity goal" to a smart business: the tech world is growing so fast that we simply cannot afford to ignore 50% of the talent pool.
Listen to this episode if you’re interested in equal opportunities, relatable role models, solving talent scarcity, and the future of inclusive workforce planning.
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5 Mar 2026
#S1E1: Why a vision on people beats org charts | Frederik Nieuwenhuys (Picnic)
#S1E1 — In this episode, we sit down with Frederik Nieuwenhuys, co-founder of Picnic, one of Europe’s fastest-growing online supermarkets, to explore what it really takes to scale a tech-driven grocery business.
We go behind the scenes on Picnic’s AI strategy and their practical build vs buy philosophy, and we unpack the leadership reality of scaling a massive workforce without losing speed or culture.
Frederik shares how Picnic thinks about people over structure, how you keep company culture intact while the organization grows, and which founder trade-offs matter most when you’re building for scale.
Listen to this episode if you’re interested in AI adoption, tech strategy, scaling culture, organizational design, and leadership lessons.
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