Makers Make It

About Makers Make It

Welcome to Makers Make It — the podcast that pulls back the curtain on how creatives turn passion into profit. Every other week, I sit down with makers, artists, and creative entrepreneurs to talk about money — the numbers behind the business, the mindset shifts, the fears, the doubts, the goals, the wins, and everything in between. If you've ever wondered how your favorite creatives actually pay the bills, price their work, or build a business doing what they love — this podcast is for you.

Publisher

Camille

Category

business

Language

en

Explicit

No

First episode

28 Aug 2025

Latest episode

19 Mar 2026

Latest episodes

12 episodes in the feed.

1. 

   19 Mar 2026

   From Corporate to Creative: How Sarah Kestenberg reimagined her life

   In this episode, Sarah shares her journey going from a corporate career to becoming a full-time artist specializing in paper flowers and sculptures. Based in Montreal, Sarah discusses how she was pushed to explore her creative side, leading her to discover a passion for crafting realistic paper flowers inspired by her garden. She reflects on her previous corporate life, the stress it brought but also how she was able to utilise it in order to build the financial stability she now leans on and how she transitioned to a more fulfilling creative practice that allows her to work with her hands and connect with nature. Sarah emphasizes the importance of financial planning and how her past experiences in the corporate world have shaped her approach to running her creative business. Throughout the conversation, she highlights the challenges of pricing her work, the importance of understanding her market, and the need for a balance between creativity and financial sustainability. She shares insights on how to navigate the complexities of being a creative entrepreneur, including the significance of experimenting with different materials and ideas. Sarah's story is a testament to the power of following one's passion and the courage it takes to shift from a stable career to a more uncertain yet rewarding creative path. Follow Sarah Kestenberg over on Instagram at @ateliernaturemorte (https://www.instagram.com/ateliernaturemorte/) Check out her current exhibition at Pari Passu in Montreal!  (https://www.paperole.com/pages/racines) Submit your own questions to upcoming guests by becoming a Patron and hear their answers — shared exclusively with you. (http://patreon.com/MakersMakeItPodcast) Want to get a behind-the-scenes look at exactly how I’m building this Podcast, including revenue, analytics and more? Subscribe to my Substack newsletter!  (https://makersmakeit.substack.com/subscribe) If you are a Creative/Maker and would like to come on the show and discuss your relationship to money in your business, please reach out over on Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/makersmakeit.podcast/). Offers: Grab 50% off an annual subscription to Monarch Money, the budgeting app I use to keep an eye on my finances and make sure my money works for me (https://www.monarchmoney.com/referral/4zhr1g4m7c?r_source=copy) Some key takeaways: 'I wanted to work with my hands.' 'I think that when I ideated about what I would do when I retired, it was this.' 'You just can't stay stuck in the dreams.' 'Money means different things to me now than it did.' 'I let myself test things and bring them to markets.' 'If you keep creating, you will find the thing that clicks.' 'I hope that people can appreciate that there's a way to transition from one career to the next.' 'You have to try different things.' 'The process to get to where I’m at now was very untidy.' Chapters: 00:00 Introduction and Background 02:00 The Journey to Paper Flowers 05:50 Transitioning from Corporate to Creative 10:52 The Impact of Personal Life on Creativity 17:36 Understanding Money as a Creative 21:04 Starting to Sell Art and Market Experiences 31:29 Finding the Balance: Art and Market Needs 33:23 The Struggle of Pricing Art 35:21 Evolving Business Strategies 40:08 Navigating the Online Space 42:52 Overcoming Fear and Self-Promotion 45:45 Future Aspirations and Projects 47:53 Advice for Aspiring Creatives Where to find me! @makersmakeit.podcast (https://www.instagram.com/makersmakeit.podcast/) @and_so_she_makes (https://www.instagram.com/and_so_she_makes/) Substack (https://makersmakeit.substack.com/subscribe) (for a look behind the scenes at exactly HOW I’m building this podcast) Keywords: Sarah Kestenberg, paper flowers, creative entrepreneurship, Montreal artist, financial planning, art and business, creative journey, handmade art, floral sculptures

2. 

   5 Mar 2026

   The Power of Letting Go: How Jennifer’s art business skyrocketed just as she was giving up

   In this conversation, Jennifer Cup shares her artistic journey from photography to painting, highlighting the challenges and breakthroughs she faced along the way. She discusses the impact of going viral on her art career (after 8 looong years of crickets), the importance of finding the right audience, and the role of social media in promoting her work. Jennifer emphasizes the significance of authenticity in art while reflecting on the resilience and trust required to navigate each of ur own personal journey on the path of art and creativity. Follow Jennifer over on Instagram at @justjenniferjayne (https://www.instagram.com/justjenniferjayne/). In case you might also like to know, the audit on her account Jennifer talked about during the podcast was done by Lizz Bianne (@lizzianne (https://www.instagram.com/lizzbianne/)). Submit your own questions to upcoming guests by becoming a Patron and hear their answers — shared exclusively with you. (http://patreon.com/MakersMakeItPodcast) Want to get a behind-the-scenes look at exactly how I’m building this Podcast, including revenue, analytics and more? Subscribe to my Substack newsletter!  (https://makersmakeit.substack.com/subscribe) If you are a Creative/Maker and would like to come on the show and discuss your relationship to money in your business, please reach out over on Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/makersmakeit.podcast/). Offers: Grab 50% off an annual subscription to Monarch Money, the budgeting app I use to keep an eye on my finances and make sure my money works for me (https://www.monarchmoney.com/referral/4zhr1g4m7c?r_source=copy) Some key takeaways: Jennifer Cup's journey from photography to painting began at age 40. She experienced a viral moment that significantly increased her following. Artistic success can come later in life, proving it's never too late to start. Finding the right audience is crucial for selling art. Social media platforms like TikTok can help artists reach new audiences. Pricing art can be challenging, and artists must find their value. Authenticity resonates more with audiences than polished perfection. Daily painting practice has been essential for skill development. Art can be a deeply personal experience, distinct from other creative businesses. Chapters: 00:00 Introduction to Jennifer's Artistic Journey 02:49 The Evolution of Creativity: From Photography to Painting 06:07 Navigating the Art World: Challenges and Breakthroughs 09:02 The Impact of Going Viral on Artistic Success 11:47 Finding Your Audience: The Shift in Market Understanding 14:50 The Role of Social Media in Art Promotion 18:07 Pricing Art: Balancing Value and Market Demand 20:47 The Importance of Authenticity in Art 23:51 Future Aspirations: Surface Pattern Design and Beyond Where to find me! @makersmakeit.podcast (https://www.instagram.com/makersmakeit.podcast/) @and_so_she_makes (https://www.instagram.com/and_so_she_makes/) Substack (https://makersmakeit.substack.com/subscribe) (for a look behind the scenes at exactly HOW I’m building this podcast) Keywords: art, creativity, painting, social media, business, entrepreneurship, viral success, audience engagement, pricing art, authenticity

3. 

   18 Dec 2025

   Let’s talk about Dreams!

   In this final episode of Season One of the Makers Make It podcast, Camille delves into the significance of dreams, emphasizing their role as a compass for a meaningful life. She shares personal experiences with dreams and encourages listeners to embrace their own, the feelings they evoke and the importance of the journey they lead us down. As the Holiday Season approaches, what better time for indulging in dreams and reveling in their bounty?! Follow me over on Instagram at @makersmakeit.podcast (https://www.instagram.com/makersmakeit.podcast/) Submit your own questions to upcoming guests by becoming a Patron and hear their answers — shared exclusively with you. (http://patreon.com/MakersMakeItPodcast) Want to get a behind-the-scenes look at exactly how I’m building this Podcast, including revenue, analytics and more? Subscribe to my Substack newsletter!  (https://makersmakeit.substack.com/subscribe) If you are a Creative/Maker and would like to come on the show and discuss your relationship to money in your business, please reach out over on Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/makersmakeit.podcast/). Offers: Grab 50% off an annual subscription to Monarch Money, the budgeting app I use to keep an eye on my finances and make sure my money works for me (https://www.monarchmoney.com/referral/4zhr1g4m7c?r_source=copy) Some key takeaways: Thank you for tuning in this season! Heart-opening conversations about creativity and business. Dreams serve as a compass for a meaningful life. Don't dismiss any dream; they carry important messages. The feeling from a dream is its true message. The journey is what shapes us into art. Pursue the material aspects of your dreams. Dreams are born from the heart, not the mind. Indulge in your wildest dreams this season. Relearn the significance of dreaming. Chapters 00:00 Reflecting on Season One 03:56 The Power of Dreams 08:40 Embracing and Understanding Dreams 14:54 Finding Meaning in Dreams 22:56 The Journey of Dreams 30:02 Living Your Dreams 32:32 Relearning the Art of Dreaming Where to find me! @makersmakeit.podcast (https://www.instagram.com/makersmakeit.podcast/) @and_so_she_makes (https://www.instagram.com/and_so_she_makes/) Substack (https://makersmakeit.substack.com/subscribe) (for a look behind the scenes at exactly HOW I’m building this podcast) Keywords: Makers Make It, creativity, dreams, podcast, personal growth, self-discovery, abundance, journey, reflection, season finale

4. 

   27 Nov 2025

   Bridging the Gap: Meghan Greenlay’s Journey as a Modern Day Creative

   In this conversation, Meg shares her multifaceted journey as a creative, exploring her diverse background in styling, ceramics, and her curation work with Petit Magasin (https://www.instagram.com/petitmagasin___/?hl=en). She discusses the balancing act required from following multiple creative pursuits, the importance of community, and how success is defined by personal fulfillment rather than simply financial gain. Meg emphasizes the role of money as a tool for creativity and the necessity of human connection in the artistic process. She also reflects on the shifting online landscape and the importance of living creatively in the present, while sharing her dreams and aspirations for the future. Follow Meg over on Instagram at @megdoespottery (https://www.instagram.com/megdoespottery/) and @petitmagasin__ (https://www.instagram.com/petitmagasin___/). Submit your own questions to upcoming guests by becoming a Patron and hear their answers — shared exclusively with you. (http://patreon.com/MakersMakeItPodcast) Want to get a behind-the-scenes look at exactly how I’m building this Podcast, including revenue, analytics and more? Subscribe to my Substack newsletter!  (https://makersmakeit.substack.com/subscribe) If you are a Creative/Maker and would like to come on the show and discuss your relationship to money in your business, please reach out over on Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/makersmakeit.podcast/). Offers: Grab 50% off an annual subscription to Monarch Money, the budgeting app I use to keep an eye on my finances and make sure my money works for me (https://www.monarchmoney.com/referral/4zhr1g4m7c?r_source=copy) Some key takeaways: Creativity is a journey that evolves over time. Balancing multiple creative pursuits can lead to a fulfilling life. Finding a community of creatives can enhance opportunities. Success is defined by personal fulfillment and connection. Money can be a tool for creativity, not just a necessity. Living creatively now is more important than waiting for retirement. Human connection is vital in the creative process. Navigating collaborations requires understanding financial implications. Online spaces are shifting, and adaptation is necessary. Dreaming big and setting goals can lead to new opportunities. Chapters: 05:37 Balancing Multiple Creative Pursuits 11:16 The Birth of a Ceramicist 17:25 Creating Opportunities with Petit Magasin 23:16 Navigating Collaborations with Big Brands 29:20 The Financial Landscape of Creativity 39:02 Investing in Creativity and Community 42:09 The Journey of a Hairstylist and Artist 45:10 The Boldness of a Generation 46:27 Pricing Art: The Balancing Act 50:15 Navigating the Utilitarian and Fine Art 55:52 Defining Success in Art and Life 59:26 Currency Beyond Money: Lifestyle and Opportunities 01:05:42 Living Creatively: Not Waiting for Retirement 01:11:47 Dreams and Aspirations for the Future Where to find me! @makersmakeit.podcast (https://www.instagram.com/makersmakeit.podcast/) @and_so_she_makes (https://www.instagram.com/and_so_she_makes/) Substack (https://makersmakeit.substack.com/subscribe) (for a look behind the scenes at exactly HOW I’m building this podcast) Keywords: creativity, ceramics, Petit Magasin, financial success, artistic journey, human connection, online spaces, collaboration, success, lifestyle

5. 

   13 Nov 2025

   The Power of Structure in Building Success

   In this conversation, Camille discusses the importance of structure for creatives and the often misunderstood relationship between discipline, effort, and self-care. She emphasizes that creating structure is the best way to increase creative’s ability to be consistent - one of the keys to success. Camille advocates for a balanced approach to structure that includes self-care and personal leadership. Follow me over on Instagram at @makersmakeit.podcast (https://www.instagram.com/makersmakeit.podcast/) Submit your own questions to upcoming guests by becoming a Patron and hear their answers — shared exclusively with you. (http://patreon.com/MakersMakeItPodcast) Want to get a behind-the-scenes look at exactly how I’m building this Podcast, including revenue, analytics and more? Subscribe to my Substack newsletter!  (https://makersmakeit.substack.com/subscribe) If you are a Creative/Maker and would like to come on the show and discuss your relationship to money in your business, please reach out over on Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/makersmakeit.podcast/). Offers: Grab 50% off an annual subscription to Monarch Money, the budgeting app I use to keep an eye on my finances and make sure my money works for me (https://www.monarchmoney.com/referral/4zhr1g4m7c?r_source=copy) Some key takeaways: Discipline and effort can be a form of self-care. Self-care is not just about relaxation; it's about intention. Being accountable to oneself is a radical form of self-love. True self-care involves working towards personal goals. Gentle accountability can lead to personal growth. Self-care should align with one's unique desires. Leisure activities alone do not define self-care. Personal leadership is essential for achieving life goals. Effort and structure can coexist with self-care. Understanding what is best for oneself is crucial. Where to find me! @makersmakeit.podcast (https://www.instagram.com/makersmakeit.podcast/) @and_so_she_makes (https://www.instagram.com/and_so_she_makes/) Substack (https://makersmakeit.substack.com/subscribe) (for a look behind the scenes at exactly HOW I’m building this podcast) Keywords: self-care, discipline, accountability, personal growth, self-love, structure, effort, life goals

6. 

   30 Oct 2025

   The Art of Balancing Creativity and Motherhood with Lora Avedian

   In this conversation, Camille and Lora explore the intricate balance between creativity, motherhood, and financial stability. Lora shares her journey as a textile designer specializing in embroidery, discussing how her career has evolved alongside her role as a mother. They delve into the challenges of freelancing, the importance of building a financial buffer, and the impact of motherhood on Lora's creative process. The discussion highlights the need for support systems, the significance of pricing creative work appropriately, and the ongoing journey towards defining personal success in a creative career. Follow Lora Avedian over on Instagram at @loraavedian (https://www.instagram.com/loraavedian/) Submit your own questions to upcoming guests by becoming a Patron and hear their answers — shared exclusively with you. (http://patreon.com/MakersMakeItPodcast) Want to get a behind-the-scenes look at exactly how I’m building this Podcast, including revenue, analytics and more? Subscribe to my Substack newsletter!  (https://makersmakeit.substack.com/subscribe) If you are a Creative/Maker and would like to come on the show and discuss your relationship to money in your business, please reach out over on Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/makersmakeit.podcast/). Offers: Grab 50% off an annual subscription to Monarch Money, the budgeting app I use to keep an eye on my finances and make sure my money works for me (https://www.monarchmoney.com/referral/4zhr1g4m7c?r_source=copy) Some key takeaways: Balancing motherhood and creativity is a significant challenge. Freelancing offers flexibility but can lead to financial instability. Building a financial buffer is crucial for freelancers. Motherhood can impact career opportunities and creative flow. There are different seasons in motherhood that affect work-life balance. Revenue streams in creative businesses can fluctuate significantly. Pricing creative work appropriately is essential for sustainability. Long-term success requires reflection and adaptability in business. Defining personal success goes beyond financial metrics. Chapters: 00:00 Introduction to Lora Avedian's Work 03:00 The Journey to Textile Design 05:54 Balancing Freelance Work and Motherhood 08:49 Financial Management as a Creative 11:56 The Impact of Motherhood on Creativity 14:39 Navigating the Challenges of Freelancing 17:54 The Role of Support Systems 20:49 Finding Focus Amidst Chaos 23:29 Seasons of Motherhood and Career 26:45 Future Aspirations and Business Strategy 35:08 Exploring Online Creative Opportunities 36:46 Navigating Pricing Challenges in Creative Work 39:23 Understanding the Value of Time and Materials 42:19 The Importance of Financial Awareness for Creatives 44:24 Long-Term Success in Creative Businesses 48:32 Redefining Success Beyond Financial Metrics 51:21 Balancing Creativity and Financial Stability 56:11 Embracing Change and Personal Growth 01:00:49 The Role of Support in Creative Endeavors Where to find me! @makersmakeit.podcast (https://www.instagram.com/makersmakeit.podcast/) @and_so_she_makes (https://www.instagram.com/and_so_she_makes/) Substack (https://makersmakeit.substack.com/subscribe) (for a look behind the scenes at exactly HOW I’m building this podcast)

7. 

   16 Oct 2025

   Do you despise a budget? This episode is for you!

   In this episode, Camille explores the essential financial foundations for creatives, focusing on how to establish a system that allows you to manage money effectively (and easily!!!) when it comes in. She discusses the importance of conscious spending, inspired by Ramit Sethi's framework, which emphasizes allocating income according to four key buckets: fixed costs, investments, savings, and guilt-free spending. Camille encourages listeners to adapt this framework to their unique circumstances, especially in managing fluctuating incomes, and provides practical action steps to help align spending with personal priorities and goals. Learn more about Ramit Sethi’s Conscious Spending Plan and more here (https://www.iwillteachyoutoberich.com/books/). Follow me over on Instagram at @makersmakeit.podcast (https://www.instagram.com/makersmakeit.podcast/) Submit your own questions to upcoming guests by becoming a Patron and hear their answers — shared exclusively with you. (http://patreon.com/MakersMakeItPodcast) Want to get a behind-the-scenes look at exactly how I’m building this Podcast, including revenue, analytics and more? Subscribe to my Substack newsletter!  (https://makersmakeit.substack.com/subscribe) If you are a Creative/Maker and would like to come on the show and discuss your relationship to money in your business, please reach out over on Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/makersmakeit.podcast/). Offers: Grab 50% off an annual subscription to Monarch Money, the budgeting app I use to keep an eye on my finances and make sure my money works for me (https://www.monarchmoney.com/referral/4zhr1g4m7c?r_source=copy) Some key takeaways: Knowing your financial priorities is important for creating a system that aligns with your unique goals. Creating financial security allows for more freedom in decision-making. Ramit Sethi's conscious spending plan makes money management so much easier. A flexible framework is better than rigid budgeting. Allocating income into four buckets helps manage finances effectively and easily. Guilt-free spending is essential for joy and inspiration. Adjust your financial framework as your life circumstances change. Understanding your spending habits can lead to better financial decisions. Money should be viewed as a tool, not an enemy. Consistency in applying financial principles is key to success. Chapters: 00:00 Introduction to Financial Foundations for Creatives 02:35 Understanding Money Allocation 04:47 Ramit Sethi's Conscious Spending Plan 09:41 The Four Buckets of Spending 14:46 Adapting the Framework to Your Life 20:08 Managing Fluctuating Income 23:25 Practical Homework for Financial Alignment Where to find me! @makersmakeit.podcast (https://www.instagram.com/makersmakeit.podcast/) @and_so_she_makes (https://www.instagram.com/and_so_she_makes/) Substack (https://makersmakeit.substack.com/subscribe) (for a look behind the scenes at exactly HOW I’m building this podcast) Keywords: financial foundations, creative practice, conscious spending, money management, budgeting, Ramit Sethi, income allocation, financial security, creative business, personal finance

8. 

   2 Oct 2025

   What it takes to build a life of your own - Kerstin Neumüller on creativity, business and authenticity

   In this episode, Camille sits down with Kerstin Neumüller, a multi-faceted creative. She wears many hats from textile and wood artist to webshop owner, author and teacher. Kerstin shares her journey of building a business on her own terms, the challenges she faced, and the importance of listening to her audience. The conversation delves into her financial management strategies, the evolution of her mindset, and her aspirations for the future. Kerstin emphasizes the joy of creating and the significance of pursuing one's passion in the craft industry. Follow Kerstin over on Instagram at @kerstin.neumuller  (https://www.instagram.com/kerstin.neumuller/) Submit your own questions to upcoming guests by becoming a Patron and hear their answers — shared exclusively with you. (http://patreon.com/MakersMakeItPodcast) Want to get a behind-the-scenes look at exactly how I’m building this Podcast, including revenue, analytics and more? Subscribe to my Substack newsletter!  (https://makersmakeit.substack.com/subscribe) If you are a Creative/Maker and would like to come on the show and discuss your relationship to money in your business, please reach out over on Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/makersmakeit.podcast/). Offers: Grab 50% off an annual subscription to Monarch Money, the budgeting app I use to keep an eye on my finances and make sure my money works for me (https://www.monarchmoney.com/referral/4zhr1g4m7c?r_source=copy) Some key takeaways: Kirsten started her business during a major life transition.She emphasizes the importance of doing business on her own terms.Building a tiny house led to a significant mindset shift.Kirsten's journey from selling textiles to woodworking was driven by passion.She learned to listen to her audience's needs for her products.Kirsten's business has multiple revenue streams, including classes and a webshop.Financial management is crucial for sustaining her business.She values the importance of creating for herself, not just for sales.Kirsten's mindset has evolved to embrace her unique path.Future aspirations include expanding her offerings and saving for retirement. Chapters: 01:55 Kerstin's Journey into Crafting 05:27 From Struggles to Self-Discovery 10:03 Building a Business on Passion 15:03 The Evolution of Selling Craft 21:01 Revenue Streams and Business Growth 25:33 Future Aspirations and Digital Expansion 31:58 Exploring Online Classes and Revenue Streams 33:51 Financial Foundations: Early Days of Entrepreneurship 35:15 The Importance of Financial Security in Creativity 37:11 Managing Business Finances with Caution 39:01 Balancing Business and Personal Life 45:20 Mindset Shifts in Creative Entrepreneurship 49:36 Reflections on the Journey and Future Aspirations Where to find me! @makersmakeit.podcast (https://www.instagram.com/makersmakeit.podcast/) @and_so_she_makes (https://www.instagram.com/and_so_she_makes/) Substack (https://makersmakeit.substack.com/subscribe) (for a look behind the scenes at exactly HOW I’m building this podcast) Keywords: craft business, entrepreneurship, woodworking, creativity, financial management, personal growth, selling online, revenue streams, mindset, passion projects

9. 

   18 Sept 2025

   Are You Financially Secure? How the least talked about aspect of business might actually be your biggest unlock

   In this episode, Camille discusses the importance of financial planning for creative professionals. She emphasizes the need to align finances with personal values and life priorities, and shares actionable steps to build financial security. Camille introduces the concept of the FU fund, a savings strategy that allows individuals to explore their creative interests without financial pressure and gives listeners practical tips on creating the financial security they need for themselves to dive head and heart into their creative projects. Follow Camille over on Instagram at @makersmakeit.podcast (https://www.instagram.com/makersmakeit.podcast/) and/or @and_so_she_makes (https://www.instagram.com/and_so_she_makes/). Submit your own questions to upcoming guests by becoming a Patron and hear their answers — shared exclusively with you. (http://patreon.com/MakersMakeItPodcast) Want to get a behind-the-scenes look at exactly how I’m building this Podcast, including revenue, analytics and more? Subscribe to my Substack newsletter!  (https://makersmakeit.substack.com/subscribe) If you are a Creative/Maker and would like to come on the show and discuss your relationship to money in your business, please reach out over on Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/makersmakeit.podcast/). Offers: Grab 50% off an annual subscription to Monarch Money, the budgeting app I use to keep an eye on my finances and make sure my money works for me (https://www.monarchmoney.com/referral/4zhr1g4m7c?r_source=copy) Some key takeaways: Align your finances with your values and priorities. Financial planning is crucial for creative success. The FU fund provides financial security and freedom. Managing risk is essential in entrepreneurial journeys. You can create financial security for yourself. Building a savings fund allows for creative exploration. It's important to assess your financial situation regularly. You can pursue your dreams without being a trust fund baby. Financial breathing room leads to better decision-making. You are allowed to spend on fun while saving. Chapters: 00:00 Introduction to Financial Success in Creativity 05:53 Building Financial Structures for Success 13:03 Managing Risk and Financial Security 17:40 Finding Your Own Path to Financial Freedom Where to find me! @makersmakeit.podcast (https://www.instagram.com/makersmakeit.podcast/) @and_so_she_makes (https://www.instagram.com/and_so_she_makes/) Substack (https://makersmakeit.substack.com/subscribe) (for a look behind the scenes at exactly HOW I’m building this podcast) Keywords: financial success, creative practices, money management, FU fund, financial planning, risk management, entrepreneurial journey, financial security, creative business, savings strategies

10. 

    11 Sept 2025

    Redefining Wealth - Anja Jamrozik’s Journey in Balancing Art, Tech and Family

    In this conversation, Camille and Anja explore the intersection of creativity and technology, discussing Anja's journey as a ceramic artist balancing her passion with a tech career and family life. They delve into the challenges of pricing art, the importance of finding fulfillment in creative work, and the impact of motherhood on Anja's artistic process. The discussion highlights the significance of time management, the role of technology in enhancing creativity, and the necessity of aligning one's values with their time. Anja shares her aspirations for the future and offers valuable advice for aspiring creatives navigating similar paths. Follow Anja over on Instagram at @anjajamrozik (https://www.instagram.com/anjajamrozik/). Submit your own questions to upcoming guests by becoming a Patron and hear their answers — shared exclusively with you. (http://patreon.com/MakersMakeItPodcast) Want to get a behind-the-scenes look at exactly how I’m building this Podcast, including revenue, analytics and more? Subscribe to my Substack newsletter!  (https://makersmakeit.substack.com/subscribe) If you are a Creative/Maker and would like to come on the show and discuss your relationship to money in your business, please reach out over on Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/makersmakeit.podcast/). Offers: Grab 50% off an annual subscription to Monarch Money, the budgeting app I use to keep an eye on my finances and make sure my money works for me (https://www.monarchmoney.com/referral/4zhr1g4m7c?r_source=copy) Some key takeaways: Anja balances her ceramics work with a tech career and family life. She prioritizes creative freedom over financial pressure in her ceramics business. Pricing ceramics is challenging due to the time and skill involved. Anja is working towards establishing a more evergreen source of revenue source that would support her creativity. Motherhood has forced Anja to find pockets of time for creativity and stop pursuing “perfection”. Social media has been a valuable tool for networking and inspiration. Anja believes in learning from experiences to refine her business approach. She emphasizes the importance of aligning time with personal values. Anja encourages creatives to focus on what they enjoy in their work. Chapters: 00:00 Introduction and Inspiration 01:36 Balancing Creativity and Tech 05:50 The Side Hustle Dilemma 11:52 Pricing and Value in Ceramics 17:41 Managing Time and Responsibilities 23:46 Social Media and Community Building 27:10 Navigating Opportunities: The Art of Saying Yes and No 29:49 Finding Your Place: Balancing Craft and Market 32:07 Motherhood and Creativity: Embracing Constraints 34:47 The Journey to Ceramics: From Passion to Profession 39:09 Redefining Success: Making a Living from Creativity 40:16 Financial Transitions: Balancing Freedom and Constraints 43:41 Mindset Shifts: Defining Your Own Path 47:58 Time as Currency: Aligning Values with Actions 51:02 Advice for Aspiring Creatives: Prioritize Joy and Passion Where to find me! @makersmakeit.podcast (https://www.instagram.com/makersmakeit.podcast/) @and_so_she_makes (https://www.instagram.com/and_so_she_makes/) Substack (https://makersmakeit.substack.com/subscribe) (for a look behind the scenes at exactly HOW I’m building this podcast) Keywords: ceramics, creativity, side hustle, balancing work and family, pricing art, technology in art, mindset shifts, artistic journey, motherhood and creativity, entrepreneurial advice

11. 

    4 Sept 2025

    What if money was “just” a tool for creative freedom

    In this episode, Camille explores the essential elements of building a creative business, emphasising the importance of aligning financial goals with personal values and priorities. She discusses how money should be viewed as a tool to nourish one's life and relationships rather than an end goal. Through personal anecdotes and practical advice, Camille encourages listeners to define their own version of success and to make business decisions that reflect their unique lifestyles and priorities. Follow Camille over on Instagram at @makersmakeit.poddcast (https://www.instagram.com/makersmakeit.podcast/) and/or @and_so_she_makes  (https://www.instagram.com/and_so_she_makes/) Submit your own questions to upcoming guests by becoming a Patron and hear their answers — shared exclusively with you. (http://patreon.com/MakersMakeItPodcast) Want to get a behind-the-scenes look at exactly how I’m building this Podcast, including revenue, analytics and more? Subscribe to my Substack newsletter!  (https://makersmakeit.substack.com/subscribe) If you are a Creative/Maker and would like to come on the show and discuss your relationship to money in your business, please reach out over on Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/makersmakeit.podcast/). Offers: Grab 50% off an annual subscription to Monarch Money, the budgeting app I use to keep an eye on my finances and make sure my money works for me (https://www.monarchmoney.com/referral/4zhr1g4m7c?r_source=copy) Some key takeaways: The purpose of a creative business is to nourish you. Money is a powerful tool that can create impact. Priorities should guide your business decisions, not the other way around. Satisfaction is key to feeling fulfilled in your life. Defining success is personal and varies for everyone. Money should serve your values and lifestyle, not the other way around. You can choose how to spend your money meaningfully. Align your business actions with your personal priorities. It's okay to take time to grow your business. Building a life on your own terms is so valuable. Chapters: 00:00 Introduction to Creative Business Building 00:52 The Importance of Priorities in Business 04:14 Understanding Money as a Tool 05:40 Personal Experiences with Money and Family 10:01 Aligning Business Decisions with Personal Values 15:24 Defining Success on Your Own Terms 16:41 The Pursuit of Meaningful Living 18:07 Practical Steps for Realigning Priorities 23:45 Conclusion and Call to Action Where to find me! @makersmakeit.podcast (https://www.instagram.com/makersmakeit.podcast/) @and_so_she_makes (https://www.instagram.com/and_so_she_makes/) Substack (https://makersmakeit.substack.com/subscribe) (for a look behind the scenes at exactly HOW I’m building this podcast - including revenue, analytics and more) Keywords: creative business, priorities, money management, personal values, meaningful living, financial tools, business growth, family, success, entrepreneurship, rich life

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    28 Aug 2025

    Navigating Career Shifts with Kate Sampson

    In this episode, join Camille as she delves into a captivating conversation with Kate Sampson of Kate Sampson Ceramics.  Discover how Kate is navigating the journey of transitioning from illustrator to ceramicist, the balance between passion and profit in creative work, and the importance of personal connections in marketing. Kate shares her insights on financial management, pricing art, and the mindset shifts necessary for success in the creative industry. Whether you're an aspiring creative or a seasoned entrepreneur, Kate's journey offers valuable insights into maintaining authenticity while achieving commercial success. Tune in for inspiration and practical advice on embracing your creative genius. Follow Kate over on Instagram at @kate.sampson.ceramics (https://www.instagram.com/kate.sampson.ceramics/) Submit your own questions to upcoming guests by becoming a Patron and hear their answers — shared exclusively with you. (http://patreon.com/MakersMakeItPodcast) Want to get a behind-the-scenes look at exactly how I’m building this Podcast, including revenue, analytics and more? Subscribe to my Substack newsletter!  (https://makersmakeit.substack.com/subscribe) If you are a Creative/Maker and would like to come on the show and discuss your relationship to money in your business, please reach out over on Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/makersmakeit.podcast/). Offers: Grab 50% off an annual subscription to Monarch Money, the budgeting app I use to keep an eye on my finances and make sure my money works for me (https://www.monarchmoney.com/referral/4zhr1g4m7c?r_source=copy) Some key takeaways: Transitioning from illustration to pottery was a gradual process for Kate. The love for the craft/process often leads to better sales than just commercial focus. Financial management is about living within means and finding balance. In-person connections at fairs enhance marketing efforts. Mindset shifts are crucial for pricing and valuing creative work. Success in business should be defined beyond just financial metrics. Creative fulfillment is essential for sustainable business growth. Marketing can happen both in the form of a financial investment and nurturing personal connections. Diversifying income streams allows for greater creative freedom. Chapters: 00:00 Introduction to Kate Sampson's Whimsical World 02:49 The Journey from Illustration to Pottery 05:56 Monetizing Creativity: Balancing Passion and Profit 08:56 Understanding Revenue Streams in Creative Businesses 09:47 The Importance of In-Person Connections 11:16 Navigating the Challenges of a One-Woman Show 12:25 Mindset Shifts in the Creative Journey 14:20 Valuing Art: Pricing and Perception 17:13 The Role of Marketing in Creative Ventures 18:18 Success Beyond Numbers: Defining Fulfillment 19:50 Advice for Emerging Creatives 20:18 Final Thoughts and Future Aspirations Where to find me! @makersmakeit.podcast (https://www.instagram.com/makersmakeit.podcast/) @and_so_she_makes (https://www.instagram.com/and_so_she_makes/) Substack (https://makersmakeit.substack.com/subscribe) (for a look behind the scenes at exactly HOW I’m building this podcast) Keywords: ceramics, pottery, creative business, art, illustration, financial management, marketing, personal connections, pricing art, creative fulfilment

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