Making Business Art

About Making Business Art

Making Business Art (MBA) is for thoughtful professionals who want their work to feel more fulfilling, creative, and human, without giving up ambition or results. Host Ezequiel Williams explores practical ideas from artists, entrepreneurs, scientists, and change-makers to help you rethink how you lead, create, collaborate, and contribute. Expect deep conversations, useful frameworks, and small experiments for making work feel more alive and aligned with who you are. It's The Other MBA: exploring what business school left out about making work more human, creative, and alive so we can put it into practice.

Publisher

Ezequiel Williams

Category

business

Language

en

Explicit

No

First episode

31 May 2022

Latest episode

13 Jan 2026

Latest episodes

40 episodes in the feed.

1. 

   13 Jan 2026

   #038 Connecting with our Purpose with Lisa Morris

   Do you feel you are fulfilling your purpose? Or do you feel unclear and searching for it? For many of us, discovering and aligning our lives with our purpose is no easy feat. My returning guest, Lisa Morris, spent over two decades in corporate consulting leadership roles focused on business and organizational transformation before she got clear on her purpose and changed her work life to be more fulfilling. She realized that her purpose is to help people clearly express who they are in creative ways. Today Lisa blends her business and design skills to work with entrepreneurs and mission-driven organizations to develop their offerings, brands, and business strategies in ways that genuinely connect and resonate deeply with the people they serve. In this episode, Lisa and I reflect on what gets in the way of connecting with our purpose, ways we can distinguish and unblock old beliefs that no longer serve us and get in our way, and learning how to recognize and listen to our purpose so it can inform our choices and make our life feel much more fulfilling. If you have a story to share about lessons learned in recognizing your purpose and living a more fulfilling life, please write to us. Share in the comments if you are on YouTube, or click on the link in this episode description to share your story. Share your story here: https://forms.gle/CF65QsSJZJLGokGe7 ABOUT OUR GUEST Lisa Morris is a multidisciplinary designer, strategist, and visual artist who partners with bold visionaries to  shape brands, solve complex challenges through human-centered practices, and create visual work that resonates with audiences. As an integrative creative, she brings clarity and direction by bridging intuition and analysis, creativity and structure, soul and strategy. With over two decades of experience—including nearly 20 years at Accenture and a decade within boutique design firms—Lisa brings a rare blend of soulful creativity and structural rigor to her work. As the founder of Studio L, an independent, female-owned boutique studio, Lisa helps leaders navigate the evolution of their ventures with clarity and confidence. Her holistic approach integrates research-driven strategy, human-centered design, and evocative visual art to craft solutions that are functional and emotionally resonant. Throughout her career, Lisa has been a catalyst for mindset shifts, facilitating collaborative problem-solving to deliver measurable results across diverse industries. Driven by a mission to enrich lives through purposeful design, Lisa specializes in shaping brands and crafting human-first services and experiences. Whether facilitating learning or creating bespoke fine art, she remains committed to the transformative power of creativity and the seamless alignment of form, function, and impact. Studio L: https://www.studio-l.co/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lisagmorris/ ABOUT MAKING BUSINESS ART Making Business Art is a podcast for curious people where we explore how to make our work more meaningful and enchanting. We draw lessons and inspiration from entrepreneurs, designers, scientists, creative leaders and artists about making business and its offerings a source of inspiration and connection for ourselves, our teams, and the people we serve. This podcast is the creation of and hosted by me, Ezequiel Williams. I work as an innovation strategist and facilitator who helps brave leaders and teams co-create new ways to win over and keep customers and talent. Join me in deep conversations about creating powerful connections with the people we serve, while making art out of our business and life. Instagram: @MakingBusinessArt (https://www.instagram.com/makingbusinessart/)

2. 

   18 Dec 2025

   #037 Community as Strategic Superpower with Andy Hagerman

   Have you ever felt disengaged or burned out at work? Many of us have, and the efforts to fix this in organizations like spending a lot of money on flashy events or retreats does not fix this problem. Returning guest and co-founder of The Design Gym, Andy Hagerman, discovered that designing moments for authentic human connection and building community within organizations is more efficient and effective at increasing engagement, creativity and productivity. In other words, this approach provides a powerful strategic advantage for organizations. In this episode, Andy shares how designing for human connection helps people feel more engaged and invested in their work. He tells us about how designing and hosting thoughtfully curated and facilitated industry dinners was a game changer for building client relationships, and also shares examples of the positive impact of connection experiences he's designed for client teams. We discuss how to foster trust, engage employees, and leverage human-centric strategies to activate change, even in the face of challenges with remote work and the emergence of AI. If you've been seeking innovative ways to connect with and inspire your team or clients, this episode is definitely for you. ABOUT OUR GUEST Andy is passionate about creating workplaces where people thrive. Andy Hagerman is the Co-Founder and Managing Partner of The Design Gym, helping organizations align strategy with culture. His expertise in design strategy, ethnographic research, and facilitation brings a novel approach to traditional people and change challenges, and has helped him to drive transformation at major clients like HP, Patagonia, Capital One, Pfizer, and Marriott. He's an avid fly fisherman, pizza maker, husband, and dad to a 2-year old girl. He lives in Beacon, New York.

3. 

   4 Nov 2025

   #036 Supercharge Your Work with "Doing, Not Talking" with Adam Lawrence

   How many meetings have you been in lately where you felt engaged, got a lot done, and thought it was time well spent? Chances are your answer is "not many" or "none." My returning guest, Adam Lawrence, thinks we can supercharge our productivity and get a lot more out of our meetings by infusing them with what he calls Doing, Not Talking. Adam is a master facilitator, author, and educator who works with private and public sector organizations around the world. He weaves together techniques from the world of psychology, design, improv, and theater to offer a unique approach to help teams open more channels of communication beyond talking and get a lot done very fast. In this episode Adam and I unpack what Doing, Not Talking looks like, how we can accelerate communication, alignment, and work within a team, the power of "building to think," how what he calls "investigative rehearsal" supercharges our work, and why running small experiments is one of the best ways to reduce risk. ABOUT OUR GUEST Adam Lawrence is a customer experience consultant, comedian and actor with a background in psychology and the global automotive industry. For years he has been using expertise gained in the world of theater, film, stand-up comedy and storytelling to help organizations influence and impress their customers and partners. Adam is co-founder of WorkPlayExperience, and co-initiator of the Global Service Jam - the world's biggest ever service design event (so far). He is a co-author of the top selling book, "This is Service Design Doing (https://www.thisisservicedesigndoing.com/)." Past clients include adidas, Swisscom, Telekom Shop Vertriebsgesellschaft, Ernst & Young, E.ON, BASF, and the Federal Government of Australia. Find out more about Adam here: https://linktr.ee/adamstjohn ABOUT MAKING BUSINESS ART Making Business Art is a podcast for curious people where we explore how to make our work more meaningful and enchanting. We draw lessons and inspiration from entrepreneurs, designers, scientists, creative leaders and artists about making business and its offerings a source of inspiration and connection for ourselves, our teams, and the people we serve. This podcast is the creation of and hosted by me, Ezequiel Williams. I work as an innovation strategist and facilitator who helps brave leaders and teams co-create new ways to win over and keep customers and talent. Join me in deep conversations about creating powerful connections with the people we serve, while making art out of our business and life. Instagram: @MakingBusinessArt

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5.0 / 5

3 ratings

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5.0 / 5

2 ratings

Podcast Authority Score: 41 / 100

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57

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0

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0

Engagement

60

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