Manna-not-mammon Podcast

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“Eternity is not perpetual future but perpetual presence” A.J. Heschel ——Pathologist, Writer, Follower of Christ….. Exploring the mystery between nothingness and eternity… www.mannanotmammon.com (https://www.mannanotmammon.com?utm_medium=podcast)

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Manna-not-mammon

Category

religion & spirituality · religion & spirituality

Language

en

Explicit

No

First episode

22 Oct 2025

Latest episode

29 Sept 2026

Latest episodes

33 episodes in the feed.

1. 

   29 Sept 2026

   Sar Cheshmeh: Returning to the Source of Life سرچشمه: بازگشت به منبع حیات

   What if goodness is not something we manufacture within ourselves, but something we receive from its Source? In this Farsi conversation, I explore Sar Cheshmeh, سرچشمه, the Persian image of the fountainhead, as a way of reading the biblical story from Genesis to Revelation. We look at Abraham’s trust being credited as righteousness, the Tree of Life and the knowledge of good and evil, the prodigal son’s return to his father, mortality and the limits of human evil, Christ entering death to overcome its power, and the mysterious cosmic drama in which the wisdom of God is revealed even to the unseen realm. The story begins beside a tree and ends beside a river flowing from the throne of God, with the Tree of Life bearing fruit and its leaves bringing healing to the nations. Perhaps eternal life is less about possessing immortality and more about remaining in relationship with the One from whom life continually flows. سرچشمه: بازگشت به منبع حیات توضیحات:اگر نیکی چیزی نباشد که ما در درون خودمان تولید میکنیم، بلکه چیزی باشد که از سرچشمه آن دریافت میکنیم، چه؟ در این گفتگوی فارسی، مفهوم زیبای سرچشمه را به عنوان تصویری برای دنبال کردن داستان کتاب مقدس از پیدایش تا مکاشفه بررسی میکنم. از اعتماد ابراهیم که برای او عدالت شمرده شد، تا درخت حیات و شناخت نیک و بد، بازگشت پسر گمشده به خانه پدر، مرگ و محدود شدن قدرت شر، ورود مسیح به مرگ و غلبه بر آن، و آن بُعد اسرارآمیز کیهانی که در آن حکمت خدا حتی برای موجودات و قدرتهای عالم نادیده آشکار میشود. داستان در کنار یک درخت آغاز میشود و در کنار رودخانهای که از تخت خدا جاری است به پایان میرسد؛ جایی که درخت حیات میوه میدهد و برگهایش برای شفای ملتهاست. شاید حیات جاودان بیش از آنکه به معنای «مالک شدن جاودانگی» باشد، زندگی در رابطه با همان سرچشمهای باشد که حیات پیوسته از او جاری میشود. Get full access to Manna-not-mammon at www.mannanotmammon.com/subscribe (https://www.mannanotmammon.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_4)

2. 

   24 Sept 2026

   What Kind of Father Does the Cross Reveal?

   This episode grew out of a question I have been wrestling with for some time: What kind of Father does the cross actually reveal? Many of us inherited a highly structured understanding of salvation. Sin creates guilt. Guilt requires punishment. Divine justice demands satisfaction. Jesus receives the penalty in our place, and forgiveness becomes possible. There is an undeniable precision to that framework. It almost works like a theological machine. But Christianity did not begin with that machine. In this conversation, I explore an older and, for me, much larger vision of salvation. We move from the legal architecture of penal substitution into the world of Athanasius and Christus Victor, where the human problem is not merely guilt but corruption, estrangement, slavery, accusation, violence, and death itself. That changes the meaning of the cross. Christ does not merely settle an account. He enters the human condition. The powers do their worst to Him: betrayal, accusation, empire, torture, shame, violence, and finally death. Then comes resurrection. Death takes Christ and discovers that it cannot hold Life. From there, the conversation moves through Abraham and Isaac, Israel’s sacrificial world, the cleansing imagery of Leviticus, the torn temple curtain, Isaiah 53, and the biblical figure of Satan as the accuser. But two images eventually become especially important to me. The first is the prodigal son. The younger son comes home rehearsing a transaction. He expects demotion, repayment, perhaps life as a servant. Instead, while he is still far away, his father runs toward him. There is no third party punished so that the father can become merciful. The father’s mercy is already there. “This son of mine was dead and is alive again. He was lost and is found.” That is homecoming, but it is also resurrection. The second image comes from John 15. Jesus does not say that His Father is the great Engineer. He says: “My Father is the gardener.” A machine operates according to fixed mechanisms. A garden lives through relationship, nourishment, pruning, participation, patience, and growth. “I am the vine; you are the branches.” That is a very different picture of salvation. The branch does not merely receive a new legal status. It participates in the life of the vine. I also explore how the early modern fascination with clocks, mechanism, Newtonian physics, law, and engineering may have shaped the metaphors Western Christians increasingly used for God. The issue is not that engineering or legal reasoning is wrong. Both can reveal something true. The danger begins when the model becomes larger than the reality it was meant to describe. The courtroom is one biblical image. But Scripture also gives us a battlefield, a family, a road home, a vine, a garden, a table, and ultimately resurrection. For me, Christus Victor brings these images together. Sin does not win. The accuser does not win. Empire does not win. Violence does not win. Death does not win. And Christ does not defeat those powers by becoming a more powerful version of them. He enters their territory, receives their violence without returning it, passes through death, and emerges on the other side. The Lamb conquers. That brings me back to the sentence at the heart of the episode: The Son is not rescuing us from the Father.The Son is revealing the Father. And perhaps that leaves us with a better question than simply asking which theory of atonement is correct: When we look at Jesus Christ—at the prodigal’s Father, the Gardener, the crucified One, and the risen Lord—what kind of God do we actually see? For Those Who Want to Explore Further This conversation ranges across Scripture, early Christian theology, medieval and Reformation thought, biblical sacrifice, and the history of atonement. For readers who would like to explore the sources rather than simply take my interpretation at face value, these are good places to begin. * The biblical texts: Genesis 22; Leviticus 16–17; Hosea 6:6; Micah 6:6–8; Isaiah 53; Luke 15:11–32; John 1:1–18; John 15:1–11; Romans 5 and 8; 1 Corinthians 15; 2 Corinthians 5:18–21; Colossians 2:13–15; Hebrews 2:14–18; Revelation 5 and 12. John 15 is particularly important for the image used in this episode: “I am the true vine, and my Father is the gardener/vinedresser.” * Athanasius, On the Incarnation. This fourth-century classic is probably the best primary text for understanding the older Christian emphasis on incarnation, corruption, death, resurrection, and the Word entering the human condition. Athanasius speaks of death and corruption being overcome because the divine Word has entered human flesh. The complete work is freely available through Christian Classics Ethereal Library. Read Athanasius, On the Incarnation (https://www.ccel.org/ccel/athanasius/incarnation.html?utm_source=chatgpt.com) * Anselm of Canterbury, Cur Deus Homo — “Why God Became Man.” This is the essential primary source for the medieval satisfaction model. Anselm is not simply teaching the later Reformed doctrine of penal substitution, but his account of sin, obligation, satisfaction, and the work of Christ marks a major development in the Western theology of atonement. Read Anselm, Cur Deus Homo (https://ccel.org/ccel/anselm/basic_works.all.html?utm_source=chatgpt.com) * The Westminster Confession of Faith, Chapter 8, especially §5. This is one of the clearest classical Reformed formulations. It states that Christ, through His obedience and self-offering, “fully satisfied the justice of His Father” and purchased reconciliation for those given to Him. It is worth reading the passage itself rather than relying on descriptions of Reformed theology. Read Westminster Confession, Chapter 8 (https://wts.edu/wcf?utm_source=chatgpt.com) * Gustaf Aulén, Christus Victor: An Historical Study of the Three Main Types of the Idea of Atonement. Published from lectures delivered in 1930, Aulén’s book gave the modern name Christus Victor to what he called the “classic” understanding of the atonement: God Himself in Christ liberating humanity from the powers of sin, death, and evil. His historical scheme has been debated, so I would read it as a profoundly influential interpretation of the Fathers rather than the final word on patristic theology. * Jay Sklar, Sin, Impurity, Sacrifice, Atonement: The Priestly Conceptions. This is especially helpful for the discussion of the Hebrew verb kippēr. Sklar’s detailed study shows why atonement language in the Priestly texts cannot simply be collapsed into “punishment transferred to someone else.” His work examines both purification and ransom dimensions and is particularly useful for understanding why atonement can be performed for things such as sacred space. * Jonathan Klawans, Purity, Sacrifice, and the Temple: Symbolism and Supersessionism in the Study of Ancient Judaism. Klawans is useful for anyone who wants to understand Israel’s sacrificial system within ancient Judaism rather than beginning with a later Christian theory and reading it backward into Leviticus. His treatment emphasizes the complexity and symbolic meaning of sacrifice, purity, temple, and divine presence. * Fleming Rutledge, The Crucifixion: Understanding the Death of Jesus Christ. Rutledge does not simply reproduce the argument I make here, which is one reason I recommend her. She takes the cross with enormous seriousness while exploring the biblical language of sin, judgment, apocalyptic conflict, the powers, and Christ’s victory. It is a substantial treatment for readers who want to see how multiple biblical atonement motifs can coexist rather than reducing the cross to a single formula. * J. Denny Weaver, The Nonviolent Atonement. Weaver develops one of the more sustained modern critiques of theories in which divine justice is understood through necessary violence. His proposal comes particularly from an Anabaptist and nonviolent Christian perspective and explicitly connects atonement theology with Christian ethics and the way believers understand power and enemies. * For the clockmaker and Geneva imagery: Geneva’s association with watchmaking genuinely reaches back into the Reformation period. Watchmaking developed there in the sixteenth century, with Protestant migration and Geneva’s restrictions on ornamental luxury helping shape the city’s emerging craft culture. I use this historically as a metaphor rather than claiming that watchmaking caused Reformed theology. The later Scientific Revolution and Enlightenment greatly strengthened the Western fascination with mechanism, mathematical law, and the image of the universe as clockwork. * For the darker Reformation history: Michael Servetus was executed by burning in Geneva in 1553 after his condemnation for heresy; the episode remains an important example of the entanglement of religious doctrine and civil coercion in the Reformation era. Anabaptists were likewise persecuted by both Protestant and Catholic authorities. These histories have political and social causes as well as theological ones and should not be reduced to any single doctrine. * For Luther and Christian anti-Judaism: The United States Holocaust Memorial Museum provides an accessible introduction to the much longer history of Christian anti-Judaism and specifically discusses Luther’s virulently anti-Jewish writings of 1543. Nazi antisemitism was fundamentally racial and ideological and cannot simply be reduced to Luther, but the older Christian inheritance formed part of the cultural material Nazis and Nazi-aligned Christians could exploit. None of these sources needs to be treated as the final word. In fact, I think that is part of the value of reading them together. Athanasius, Anselm, Westminster, Aulén, modern biblical scholars, and contemporary theologians are asking related questions from very different historical worlds. My own concern is not to replace one perfectly closed system with another. It is to keep returning to the biblical question: If Jesus reveals the Father, what kind of Father does He reveal? Get full access to Manna-not-mammon at www.mannanotmammon.com/subscribe (https://www.mannanotmammon.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_4)

3. 

   18 Sept 2026

   The Modern Family Isn’t as Biblical as You Think

   This episode began when two things converged. First, I read a Vanguard report on women and wealth that irritated me. It examined women’s confidence in making financial decisions, how they relate to advisors, and how they manage wealth. The premise felt historically narrow, as though women’s competence with money, judgment, risk, comparison, and resource allocation were somehow a modern discovery. Then, in my lectionary reading, I came across Luke 8 and Joanna. Luke describes Mary Magdalene, Joanna, Susanna, and other women who supported Jesus and His companions out of their own resources. Joanna was connected to the household of Herod Antipas, yet Luke simply presents her as someone with the means and authority to help sustain Jesus’ ministry. That is where the synthesis happened. If women in the biblical world were already buying, trading, managing households, directing resources, and financing ministry, when did the modern Western image of the woman centered primarily on the private home and the development of children become so dominant? This episode follows that question through Luke, Acts, Proverbs 31, industrialization, separate spheres, suburbanization, intensive parenting, and the evangelical family model many of us grew up assuming was ancient. Get full access to Manna-not-mammon at www.mannanotmammon.com/subscribe (https://www.mannanotmammon.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_4)

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