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August 11, 2022
E07.亲爱的，等遍所有绿灯还是让自己疯一下要紧
<p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">这是一场关于游离和归属的对谈。</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">我邀请了我的前室友一起录制本期节目。之所以称其为“前”室友是我们一起在国内经历了两年本科法语学习，但这之后则都选择了“脱轨”，润到世界不同的角落：我决定在法国重新从大一读起学习艺术史与考古，而李小然则选择转学美国主修新闻与传播。</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">我们聊到了做出这一“离谱”选择的原因以及过程。我们谈到在这一过程中如何克服时间焦虑，如何面对申请前后的摇摆时刻，如何走过因信息差导致的弯路。</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">我们都是需要不断寻找自己的热爱，又不怕折腾的人。朋友啊，独行或从流大概都不需要害怕。但亲爱的，“等遍所有路灯还是让自己疯一下要紧“。</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">【本期嘉宾】</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>李小然，主播前大学室友，国内两年法语本科后转学美国主修新闻与大众传播</span><br></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">【本期剧透】</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>02</span><span>:56 </span>交代个人情况</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>08:55 </span>做出选择的原因</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">·语言学习动力</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">·城市学校专业的游离感</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>·</span>国内转专业可能性</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>18:50/21:10 </span>时间焦虑——当同龄人研究生毕业时我的本科才刚开始</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>19:30 </span>我不再仰望那些闪闪发光的文凭</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>37:50 </span>申请过程中的摇摆时刻——我们都在走几乎没人走过的路啊</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>45:02 </span>“是你呀，给了我很大的动力”“天呐，是我的荣幸“</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>48:00 “</span>我从来没有在以前的学校体会过这样的感觉”—— 退出内卷</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>52:30 </span>摇摆是日常吧？</p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">【本期音乐】</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">任我行 - 陈奕迅</p><br>
May 19, 2022
母亲节非特别节目｜我们有幸主动选择宅家和种菜生活
<p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"> 刚刚过去的母亲节，我们母女俩展开了一场再普通不过的日常闲聊。身在法国和杭州的我们幸运地拥有不同程度的“自由”，却主动选择了宅家和种菜的生活。当这样的生活方式成为主动选择时，我们享受着时间，活成了彼此羡慕的样子。最后话题延伸到了身为老师的妈妈以家长身份开女儿家长会的“光荣事迹”。</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"> 希望你也能进入我们聊天的闲散氛围中，祝妈妈们母亲节快乐！（拖更许久恰巧在5·20才发出，记得跟妈妈说“520”哦～）</p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">【“毛落胃”母女】</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">女儿笑笑</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">妈妈归迪</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">【聊天记录】</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>03</span><span>:53 </span>笑笑<span>の</span>一日</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>16:06 </span>归迪的毕业班工作和菜园生活</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>23:36 </span>老师批作业：无效劳动还是田野调查</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>28:11 </span>老师的一句小小鼓励会给予无尽能量啊</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>31:14 </span>《归迪教你如何有效开家长会》</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">【提及影视作品】</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">《局部》</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">本期视觉来源电影《在东京小住》</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">【本期音乐】</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>Junk Food Eater – </span>高姗</p><br>
April 22, 2022
E06.妈妈，我们从来不会仅仅因为一部电视剧就恐育
<p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">本期节目我们以电视剧《亲爱的小孩》为起点，第一次尝试聊到我们母女俩对生育的看法。</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">尽管我们出于爱都在努力尝试理解对方，但我依然感受到了作为两代女性或者说两个价值取向有所差异的人之间存在沟通的鸿沟。在我问道妈妈是否真的能够接受女儿不生育的选择，妈妈表达了她较为强烈的愿望，无论是出于她自己的体验还是她所认同的幸福人生路径。但当我尝试这一“谈判公式”（我知道你希望我快乐，而这一选择会让我更快乐。你会真正站在我的角度考虑，我对你有信心）时，我们有效传达了对彼此的爱与理解，顺利达成了当下的共识。其实，我很清楚地知道：即使在这场对话之后，妈妈依然会继续怀抱着她对女儿生育的愿望，但我试图乐观相信当我真正做出选择的那一天，她会给予她的理解。</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">我们一致认为身为女性的我们更善于反思，这让我好奇那些“普信”的父亲和丈夫们又会如何反思。</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">【一个在生养孩子过程中收获很多幸福的妈妈和一个对生育持有怀疑态度且缺乏两性亲密关系经验的女儿之间的对话，这同时也是一个更相信自身经验的妈妈和一个试图用理论武装自己的女儿之间的对话 · 预告】</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>04</span><span>:10 </span>妈妈：担心女儿因为这部剧而恐育了</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"> 女儿：警惕电视剧只展现生育焦虑的部分，但在看剧之前就对生育抱有悲观态度</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>06</span><span>:55 </span>女儿：大多数人对生育的态度是会变化的，现在的我不能断言</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"> 妈妈：没有就好没有就好<span>……</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>11:16 </span>女儿：母爱是天生的吗？</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"> 妈妈：母爱也许是培养出来的，但父爱应该就是后天的</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>1</span><span>7:</span><span>56 </span>妈妈：我就是开个玩笑，你别想多根本没有这个意思</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"> 女儿：知道是玩笑，但我依然觉得不适，也不喜欢父母拿玩笑当挡箭牌</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>20:44 </span>妈妈：我是个传统的人，我希望女儿在合适的年纪做合适的事</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"> 女儿：你是否想过所谓“合适”的人生道路是建构出来的</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"> 妈妈：我承认</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"> 女儿：但为什么你依然认同</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"> 妈妈：我觉得这没什么不好的</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>28:48 </span>女儿：妈妈的爱一度让我有负担</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"> 妈妈：我这样听你说很愧疚</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"> 女儿：我害怕会像妈妈一样付出太多</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"> 妈妈：我很遗憾</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>32</span><span>:48 </span>女儿：社会对生育的女性就是不公平的</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"> 妈妈：家庭责任分配的不平衡容易让妈妈充满“怨气”</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>3</span><span>6:45 </span>女儿和妈妈：生育是选择，生育不生不应该产生阵营对立</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">【本期音乐】</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">亲爱的小孩 <span>– </span>任素汐</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">温暖的路灯下 <span>– </span>卿锋</p><br>
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