Discover the Saga:
Delve into the gripping, multifaceted story of the Boeing 737 MAX 8 tragedies—Lion Air Flight 610 and Ethiopian Airlines Flight 302. This must-listen podcast reveals the critical decisions, engineering failures, organizational missteps, and disastrous events that shook the world.
What You'll Learn:
• The high-stakes business pressures and corporate decisions behind the 737 MAX.
• The design flaws and certification failures of the MCAS system—critical factors in the crashes.
• A detailed breakdown of the two fatal crashes and the chaotic months between them.
• The global investigations, public responses, and their lasting impact on aviation safety.
Why Listen?
If you're fascinated by aeronautical engineering, air disasters, or the complexities of organizational failure, this series offers a detailed and eye-opening look at one of aviation’s biggest scandals.
Learn more at www.BradIvie.com.
Drawing Conclusions through the Framework of Failure
Brad Ivie draws conclusions through the Framework of Failure, revealing the catastrophic consequences of the Boeing 737 MAX 8 disasters and the lessons learned from them.
1 Oct 2024
Response: Making Sense of Response
This episode delves into a series of fascinating stories emerging from the Response to the 737 MAX 8 crashes, vividly illustrating the ongoing and contentious debate surrounding cause and blame.
We see how differing perspectives and accurate information mixed with incorrect or dubious information influence perceptions, conclusions, actions, and outcomes. This helps us appreciate how Response unfolds imperfectly.
Access detailed show notes at: www.bradivie.com/podcast.
24 Sept 2024
Response: What Was Said and Done
What typically happens after major accidents and disasters?
The answer is a clustershambles of its own making – a mess of competing interpretations and acrimonious conflict. The MAX 8 saga is an excellent example of this.
This episode covers the full range of investigations and events following the two tragic crashes, presenting them in nine related buckets. See the big picture before we explore a few fascinating stories.
Access detailed show notes at: www.bradivie.com/podcast.
17 Sept 2024
Occurrence: The Ethiopian Airlines Disaster
This episode addresses the second crash within four and a half months of a Boeing 737 MAX 8 aircraft - that of Ethiopian Airlines Flight 302.
Whereas new calculations demonstrated that the risk of another crash was significant, industry leaders couldn't break their existing mindset and failed to ground the MAX. What's also amazing is that the crew, who now knew about MCAS, lost control of the aircraft nevertheless.
What's less known, however, is that the Ethiopian cockpit emergency had two phases - MCAS wasn't even involved until the second phase. The whole story is captured in this episode.
Access detailed show notes at: www.bradivie.com/podcast.
10 Sept 2024
Occurrence: The Lion Air Disaster
The Boeing MAX 8 story presents the unique situation of two tragic crashes, a prior close-call incident, and three earlier flights with forewarning issues, all driven by the same Context and Structure of Failure.
This episode addresses the first crash—Lion Air Flight 610—and the events immediately preceding and immediately following it, the latter of which set the stage for another disaster.
Here, we see a profound inability, or unwillingness, to recognize the seriousness of MCAS's design flaws. Instead, they are obscured to airlines, pilots, and regulators, and the focus is placed on marginal procedural changes while working in the background to modify MCAS’s design.
Access detailed show notes at: www.bradivie.com/podcast.
3 Sept 2024
Structure: MCAS Drifts
This is a pivotal moment in the story. A system (with a modest risk rating) already in place to address a very rare flight maneuver was then applied and modified to a new and more common situation without much debate about the implications of this change.
There was a striking lack of imagination about how this new design could go wrong. How could this have happened?
Access detailed show notes at: www.bradivie.com/podcast.
27 Aug 2024
Structure: MCAS is Conceived
Here, we examine the design of MCAS in detail. This gets technical, as it needs to be if you want to understand precisely how a dangerous system came to be. The details of the story reveal many questionable decisions made during six years of routine engineering work.
Yes, Boeing took the easiest route to solve an apparently modest flight control problem. However, the story doesn’t demonstrate an overt intent to deploy an unsafe system, nor does it disclose any violation of regulations. Rather, we see a narrow following of the rules without sufficiently questioning the end result.
Access detailed show notes at: www.bradivie.com/podcast.
20 Aug 2024
Context: Setting the Stage, Part 2
I conclude our examination of key forces that have shaped aircraft design and manufacturing – and subsequently, the MAX 8 – by addressing major trends in manufacturing operations and the regulatory environment.
Then, we turn to the MAX's origin story and the context it set for design. The competitive threat posed by the Airbus A320neo created dilemmas for Boeing that constrained its options. Emerging from this were three critical program business imperatives that profoundly shaped how program leadership thought and acted, setting the stage for risky decision-making.
Access detailed show notes at: www.bradivie.com/podcast.
13 Aug 2024
Context: Setting the Stage, Part 1
In this episode, we explore the fascinating historical and economic backdrops of commercial transportation, the Boeing Company, and the evolving landscape of commercial aviation. We will examine how these elements influenced decisions that ultimately led to the creation of the Boeing 737 MAX 8, including the program's key priorities and design philosophy.
This episode addresses two of the four forces that have shaped aircraft design and manufacturing: the airline marketplace and aeronautical technology.
Access detailed show notes at: www.bradivie.com/podcast.
6 Aug 2024
Sorting Through the Clustershambles
In this second episode, I define the term “maximum clustershambles” and explain the concept of the “Framework of Failure." I will also introduce five major themes that run throughout the story and lay out how the series is organized.
Access detailed show notes at: www.bradivie.com/podcast.
29 Jul 2024
Much More Than Meets the Eye
In this first episode, I lay the foundation of this podcast series with a concise summary of the remarkable Boeing 737 MAX 8 story.
I'll address the two crashes in 2018 (Lion Air Flight 610) and 2019 (Ethiopian Airlines Flight 302), the discovery of MCAS as the technical trigger of the flight emergencies, the investigations and public reactions, and the key outcomes.
I'll then lay out the most striking questions that emerge -- many still unanswered.
Access detailed show notes at: www.bradivie.com/podcast.
24 Jul 2024
Why the Boeing 737 MAX 8 crashes deserve a deeper look
A three-minute introduction to this podcast series on the Boeing 737 MAX 8 disasters in 2018 and 2019.
Learn about the scope of this story (from design and development to the two crashes to the ongoing conflicts over cause and responsibility) and why my telling of this story can change the way you think about complex organizational failure and the risk problems in big business today.
The 12-episode audio podcast premieres on Tuesday, July 30, 2024, with episodes debuting each Tuesday.
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