You work hard. You earn good money. And yet something still feels uncertain about depending on that one paycheck forever.
Welcome to the Money Makin Mamas Show — the podcast for professional women who are ready to transition from paycheck dependency into single family real estate investing without quitting their jobs.
Hosted by mother-daughter duo Nancy Wallace-Laabs, a real estate investor and Realtor with 20 years of experience, and her daughter Kelcie Leka, a former corporate manager turned real estate investor and mom of two — this show gives you the honest conversations, practical strategies, and real world proof that this path is possible for women exactly like you.
Every episode covers the real stuff — how to find your first deal, how to analyze a property, how to find off market opportunities nobody else is chasing, and how to build wealth one single family home at a time while still showing up for your career and your family.
One property can change everything. Let us show you how.
Private Money for Real Estate: What Borrowers AND Lenders Need to Know — with Chris Naugle
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Looking for another way to fund real estate deals—or wondering what it actually means to become a private lender?
In this episode of the Money Makin' Mamas Show, Nancy Wallace-Laabs sits down with Chris Naugle, founder of Private Money Club, for a practical conversation about private money and how it works in real estate investing.
Chris breaks down the difference between private money and hard money, what types of deals private lenders may consider, and why relationships are such an important part of connecting borrowers with capital.
But this conversation isn't only for borrowers.
Nancy and Chris also turn the discussion around and look at private lending from the lender's perspective. What due diligence should you do before putting your money into someone else's deal? What should you know about the borrower, the property and the numbers? And how do you avoid making a decision based solely on an attractive return?
Chris also shares why he created Private Money Club, who private lenders really are, how self-directed retirement accounts and other sources of capital can enter the conversation, and why education is critical on both sides of a private-money transaction.
In this episode:
Private money vs. hard money
What types of real estate deals private lenders fund
How to approach potential private lenders
What lenders should know about borrowers
Due diligence before lending on a real estate deal
Who becomes a private lender
Self-directed IRAs and other potential sources of capital
How Private Money Club connects borrowers and lenders
Why relationships, education and transparency matter
Whether you're trying to fund your next real estate deal or you're interested in understanding the other side of private lending, this conversation gives you a look at both sides of the table.
Guest: Chris Naugle
Founder, Private Money Club
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28 Sept 2026
When the Information Changes, Should Your Decision Change?
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What happens when you make a decision—and then the information changes?
In real estate investing, it happens all the time.
You run the numbers. Talk with the seller. Do your due diligence. Agree on a price. Sign the contract.
Then something changes.
A title problem appears. An unexpected lien is discovered. A repair is much more expensive than anticipated. Another heir has to approve the sale. Or new information changes the deal you thought you were buying.
In this solo episode of the Money Makin' Mamas Show, Nancy Wallace-Laabs shares real deals where that happened—including a foreclosure property derailed by a $70,000 lien, a property with hidden foundation and plumbing problems, and a transaction involving multiple heirs and one person no one could locate.
The challenge isn't simply knowing how to solve a problem. It's knowing whether the problem is still worth solving.
Nancy shares the three questions she comes back to when new information changes a deal:
What exactly changed?
What does that change do to the numbers, risk or outcome?
Knowing what I know today, would I still say yes?
Because sometimes persistence means finding a solution.
And sometimes good judgment means recognizing that the deal has changed enough that it's time to walk away.
21 Sept 2026
Not Every Opportunity Deserves Your Yes
A good opportunity can still be the wrong opportunity for you.
Real estate investors are constantly presented with opportunities: properties, partnerships, syndications, networking groups, coaching programs, new systems and new ways to grow a business.
But experience has taught Nancy that the goal isn't to figure out how to make every opportunity work. Sometimes the better decision is to walk away.
In this episode of the Money Makin' Mamas Show, Nancy shares several real experiences that changed how she evaluates opportunities, including a property that raised too many questions, investment opportunities that looked good until due diligence changed the picture, and business decisions that required her to look beyond the potential upside.
She also shares the three questions she now asks before committing her time, money or attention:
Does it make sense?
Does it fit what I'm doing right now?
What will saying yes to this take away from?
Because sometimes the decision isn't between a good opportunity and a bad one.
It's deciding which good opportunities actually belong in the life and business you're building.
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