Michael and Carrie Kline, Talking Across the Lines

About Michael and Carrie Kline, Talking Across the Lines

Wit and wisdom on race, class, the environment, community economics and local history from the Appalachian coalfields and frack fields AND the Dawnland of the Northeast USA--stories and music by the people who live here, who want to connect with YOU

Publisher

Michael and Carrie Kline, Talking Across the Lines

Category

society & culture

Language

en

Explicit

No

First episode

4 Dec 2017

Latest episode

30 Apr 2026

Latest episodes

36 episodes in the feed.

1. 

   30 Apr 2026

   Room To Grow: The Inner Lives of United States Farm Workers in an Age of Turmoil

   Room to Grow was produced by Nicholas Boyer and Carrie Kline with Michael Kline of Talking Across the Lines, based on Carrie’s interviews with farmworkers. We want to unveil the lives and personalities of the people who grow food in the Connecticut River Valley of Massachusetts. How much richer will the world be when curiosity drives us beyond barriers of language, shyness and hesitation to cross lines of difference to break bread and care for each other? Believe us, we’ve had so much fun sharing meals, nights, and laughing over our attempts at speaking each other’s languages and splashing through the deep farm mud together. You’ll hear from these people in order of their first words: “Orquédia” (pseudonym), Joanne Graves translating for Orquédia, Carrie Kline, Nicholas Boyer, Mireya Katerina Tsironis Genius, Angelique Bickford, “Amistad” (pseudonym) and Sandy Wang who translates for Amistad. The music we include from around the world, in order of hearing, is Cuando Allá Se Pasa Lista performed by Josue Cristobal Bonilla, Afou ‘eis Allon Stin Karda by Ross Daly, Pájaro de Libre Vuelo performed by Mario Diego Congo, Anigma by Ross Daly, El Hielo by Santa Cecelia, Vasilla de Barro written by Gonzalo Benitez, performed by Música Ecuatoriana Sin Masticar by Ile Cuatro Tablas performed by Argemiro Jaramillo Duerme Negrito performed by Mireya Katarina Tsironis Genius No Life is a Crime by Sam Gleaves Sueño Guajiro performed by Colmillo Norteño Gracias a la Vida by Violeta Para performed by Mercedes Sosa The Trumpet Vine by Kate Wolf performed by Michael and Carrie Kline with Bruce Betler Piensa en Mi by Ruben Roman Leyva and Christian Perez, performed by Los del Limite A Better Life to Find was written by Joe Herrmann © 2026 Yodelayhee, ASCAP, except chorus, from "The New Colossus" by Emma Lazarus, performed by Critton Hollow and company, Cathy Fink producer, video by Jim Robeson Productions, LLC Photo "Wall Road" © Lisa Elmaleh If you see a background photo accompanying this production it’s from a legendary painting, “Study of Migration and the Golden People” by Judy Bacca. You can see and hear this and our other Talking Across the Lines productions on the Talking Across the Lines podcast and YouTube Channel, or at Soundcloud.com/ talkingacrossthelines. Enjoy and share this production. And if you see something, say something. If you think you see ICE (in Massachusetts specifically) call the LUCE hotline at 617-370-5023. You can contribute to their work at lucemass.org/donate At the time of this release, Angelique’s partner Maico was living back in Guatemala where he landed after pressure to self-deport his way out of a Texas detention center. But the family has been FaceTiming every day, so Camilla and her loving father could stay close and Angelique and Maico could stay connected. As we prepare to air Room to Grow, Angelique and their now one-year-old daughter are visiting Maico in Guatemala before being forced to live separately, at least for the time being, Angelique returning to work on the farm and Maico seeking employment somewhere in Latin America. Of course he came to the U.S. because there was no work at home. You can support this family by contributing to their Go Fund Me page at https://www.gofundme.com/f/support-ma... And get to know your neighbors. You never know what doors will open. For Talking Across the Lines I’m Nicholas Boyer and I’m Carrie Kline.

2. 

   2 Feb 2026

   You Can’t Unknow the Past

   “You Can’t Unknow the Past” Twelve Years of Archaeological Research Affirming Centuries of Indigenous Memory and Belief Neglected by Non-Indigenous Historians This production opens with the voice of David Brule, Coordinator of the American Battlefield Protection Program Advisory Board leading an April 2, 2025 monthly board meeting, open to the public, in the Town Hall of Montague, Massachusetts in Turners Falls. He gives a broad overview of a research project now completed, funded with grants totaling nearly $200,000 from the National Park Service since 2014, to explore the archaeological past of a bloody massacre by English colonists, and the battle that ensued following seven miles of the frantic English retreat down the Green River. At dawn, May 19th, l676 hundreds of elderly and young multi-tribal refugees awoke in an unprotected encampment at Great Falls, on the North side of the middle Connecticut River, to musket fire and the screams of their people’s murder. Brule’s recounting is an important summary of the place of this brutal event in the larger tapestry of King Philips War. It was the bloodiest war of the Colonial period, perhaps of our entire national history, and established the tone of governmental policy toward displaced Indigenous populations ever since. Raised just a mile away, Brule grew to young adulthood without ever hearing the gruesome story: it was never referenced in school curricula or local lore. In fact, being Indigenous was barely acknowledged anywhere. Colonial histories have pretty thoroughly excluded the Indigenous perspective. The victors usually write the history. In 1900 on the Town of Gill’s shore of the flooded Connecticut River above the Great Falls Dam in the presence of a gathering of thousands, a newly set stone monument acknowledged the leadership of William Turner and his 145 armed recruits in a predawn attack, killing more than 300 unarmed elderly and child-aged refugees encamped near the river. The short text, carved in stone, does not go on to explain that the atrocity was carried out within earshot of the nearest Indigenous coalition forces encamped on the other side of the river, who immediately gave chase. In the seven miles of deadly pursuit, archaeologists centuries later, exhuming troves of musket balls from the buried past, have documented the maneuvers of Indigenous forces which killed more than 50 of the retreating English, including Captain Turner himself. It was a heavy price to pay for a campaign of genocide against the Natives. Nonetheless the 1900 monument remains, a 125 year old assertion of a significant English colonial victory. It is a powerfully engrained vision to challenge with alternative, long buried truths, now finding their way into daylight through scientific interpretation. David Brule is the details person in this case, having for 12 years chaired the American Battlefield Protection Program Advisory Board. He is also a compelling storyteller who has brought to life in recurring public presentations a new understanding of the Valley’s past. As president of the Nolumbeka Project, Incorporated, at the annual Pocumtuck Homeland Festival at Unity Park in August along the River’s edge over the last ten years he regales growing audiences. Brule has stirred widespread research of the vast array of complex sources, including early Colonial observations of Indigenous life through unpublished letters, diaries and other written records. For more than two decades, he has been lifting a shroud of erasure far and wide, offering an alternative, balanced, collaborative narrative of an unforgettable, shared past, in search of peace and reconciliation. The final archaeological report of more than 400 pages by the Heritage Consultants, LLC., further enriches and complicates our understanding of the Northeast region and the people who lived and died trying to defend it from the ruthless Colonial experiment beginning 400 years ago.

3. 

   2 Jul 2025

   Angelique on ICE

   Angelique Bickford shares her experience of falling in love and starting a family with Maico, while facing the constant fear of ICE detaining and deporting her loved ones in this interview.

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