Two millennial moms...sharing some thoughts. As parents and as education professionals, we discuss our past, present, and future relationships with changing technologies. We're interested in how it impacts ourselves, our students, and our kiddos, and we're learning how to advocate for the issues we care most about.
We start off talking about several interesting webinars happening the week we record this episode (more than one featuring author Natasha Singer) and thankfully Jordan’s massive Google Doc (https://docs.google.com/document/d/16lNCOLgjnKkZBoGbdyujzhv4AmW94wkGdxtq5IorNIo/edit?usp=sharing)will house the links to the recordings. Jordan can’t handle the fact that her youngest is turning three, which prompts Helen to ask what age a baby monitor should stay in kids’ rooms. Helen attempts to get us a podcast sponsor by sharing how her daughter’s first three-syllable word was...Desitin! We then dive into the latest frustrating creation from Meta called Muse. Jordan’s social media feeds have been flooded with prompts to activate her personal AI Muse agent (she won’t be doing that), and though Helen had not seen it yet, something tells us she will after talking about it! Mark Zuckerberg recently debuted the “Muse Charm,” which is oddly (but also not surprisingly) reminiscent of the handheld millennial toy: Tamagotchi. We talk through the concerns of handing over access to all of your accounts. This leads us to talking about how our own relationships with social media have changed over time. Jordan shares how she feels conflicted with using social media for interacting with people she knows aka using the “like” button. And then we learn that even though Helen isn’t watching a dating show where people walk the plank (Jordan has never heard of it), she still knows all about it.
Find Helen on Substack at Resonances (https://helenplevkajones.substack.com/).
Join Jordan in reConnect Morton (https://www.fournorms.com/groups/reconnect-morton) through Four Norms.
9 Oct 2026
EPISODE 57: A Conversation with Mary Flenner, Founder of Tween Magazine
As moms to daughters we are thrilled to share our conversation with Mary Flenner, the founder and creative director of Tween Magazine (https://tweenmag.com/). Tween is an empowering print magazine for girls! Mary is a mom to three girls and wanted to create a magazine she felt good about them reading. The magazine is filled with stories about real-world girls, games, advice, fun facts and more.
Find Helen on Substack at Resonances (https://helenplevkajones.substack.com/).
Join Jordan in reConnect Morton (https://www.fournorms.com/groups/reconnect-morton) through Four Norms.
8 Oct 2026
Your Attention Please: A conversation with Sara Robin & Jack LeMay
On this special episode, we interview the creative and passionate minds behind the new documentary Your Attention Please: Sara Robin (Director/Producer) and Jack LeMay (Editor/Writer).
Your Attention Please (https://www.yourattentionplz.com/watch)(available now on Apple TV, Amazon, and Doc+) explores how social media platforms are deliberately designed to be addictive, and what happens when families, educators, and young people fight back.
In this conversation, we talk about…
the power of film to change political sentiment.
the expertise of Gen Z and their potential to take power back.
the global pervasiveness of social media harms.
the throughline of engagement-based business models, through social media into AI.
the evolution from the attention economy to the intimacy economy.
the symbolic value of the Meta settlement and the necessity of stronger federal legislation.
the possibility of algorithms towards positive social connection and empathy.
the exploitation of surveillance capitalism.
the intended impact of the film upon lawmakers, young people, and parents.
the sacrifices and benefits of going phone-free.
the accessibility of action and the collective strength of doing little things.
Join the movement at yourattentionplz.com (http://yourattentionplz.com).
Find Helen on Substack at Resonances (https://helenplevkajones.substack.com/).
Join Jordan in reConnect Morton (https://www.fournorms.com/groups/reconnect-morton) through Four Norms.
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