Mindful CIO Podcast

About Mindful CIO Podcast

Welcome to Mindful CIO Podcast. We are amid the fifth revolution and in the age of AI, Human Tech Leadership is now more important than ever. The purpose of The Mindful CIO podcast is to explore the Human Side of Tech Leadership and what it takes to mindfully and sustainably lead high performing tech teams. We will facilitate meaningful conversations to inspire tech leaders to become the best version of themselves and therefore have a more positive impact to their teams, their stakeholders, their organisations and society at large. Join the conversation!

Publisher

Nathalie Heynderickx

Category

technology

Language

en

Explicit

No

First episode

27 Aug 2024

Latest episode

9 Sept 2026

Latest episodes

14 of 16 episodes have a transcript.

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   9 Sept 2026TRANSCRIPT

   Episode #15 - AI Maturity: Moving from Adoption to Real Value

   Host Nathalie Heynderickx interviews AI leader Dheeren Velu about moving AI adoption from adoption to real value through culture, capability, and governance.

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   8 Jul 2026TRANSCRIPT

   Episode #14 - From AI Principles to Practice: Operationalising Responsible AI

   Nathalie Heynderickx interviews Fernando Mourão on operationalizing responsible AI, emphasizing people and organizational challenges over frameworks for successful adoption.

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   3 Jun 2026TRANSCRIPT

   Episode #13 - From Change Management to AI Enablement

   Nathalie Heynderickx interviews Greg Taylor, exploring how to evolve change management into AI enablement by focusing on human-centered leadership and organizational adaptation for responsible AI adoption.

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   27 Apr 2026TRANSCRIPT

   Episode #12 - Responsible AI in Practice: From Experimentation to Governance

   Nathalie Heynderickx interviews Paul Cooper, consultant and researcher, on implementing responsible AI by building trust, culture, and capability beyond experimentation.

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   9 Mar 2026TRANSCRIPT

   Episode #11 - Responsible AI in Practice: Governance, Culture and Executive Capability

   Host Nathalie Heynderickx interviews strategic foresight consultant Sami Makelainen about building responsible AI governance, culture, and executive capability for long-term organizational success.

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   28 Feb 2026TRANSCRIPT

   Episode #10 - Season Two: Leading Responsible AI Adoption

   In this episode, Nathalie Heynderickx reflects on the journey of The Mindful CIO Podcast and introduces the direction for Season Two. Season One focused on human-centred technology leadership, grounded in the Mindful CIO Manifesto. Through conversations with experienced CIOs and senior executives, we explored emotional intelligence, psychological safety, servant leadership and sustainable performance in complex environments. As artificial intelligence becomes central to organisational strategy and operations, a new set of leadership questions is emerging. Season Two shifts the focus toward responsible AI adoption. What does it take to build the trust, culture and capability required to implement AI responsibly? How do technology leaders balance speed and innovation with governance and accountability? Throughout this season, Nathalie will speak with leaders across governance, risk, transformation and AI strategy to explore practical approaches to embedding AI within organisations in a way that protects customers, employees and brand reputation. This episode sets the context for the season ahead and frames the core question: how can CIOs partner with the business to deliver competitive advantage through AI while ensuring it is adopted responsibly? If you are navigating AI adoption within your organisation, this season is designed to support thoughtful, sustainable and accountable technology leadership. _____________________________________ 🎙️LISTEN & SUBSCRIBE TO OUR AUDIO PODCAST ✦ Website: ⁠⁠⁠https://mindfulcio.community/podcast⁠⁠⁠ (https://mindfulcio.community/podcast)/ ✦ Apple: ⁠⁠⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/podcast/mindful-cio-podcast/id1765106205⁠⁠⁠ (https://podcasts.apple.com/podcast/mindful-cio-podcast/id1765106205) ✦ Spotify: ⁠⁠⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/1gomcBWSDwdfoEZeZD7Usu⁠ (https://open.spotify.com/show/1gomcBWSDwdfoEZeZD7Usu)

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   17 Dec 2025

   Why Culture Eats Strategy — Even in the Age of AI with Simon Reiter

   In this episode of The Mindful CIO Podcast, host Nathalie Heynderickx is joined by Simon Reiter, Chief Technology Officer at CareSuper, for a thoughtful and grounded conversation on what it truly means to lead technology teams in a human, sustainable way. With more than 23 years of experience across superannuation, financial services, healthcare, education and government, Simon reflects on the realities of senior leadership — including the self-doubt and nerves that can arise even after years of experience. His openness sets the tone for a discussion that highlights vulnerability as a strength, not a weakness, in modern tech leadership. A central theme of the episode is healthy culture, a core pillar of the Mindful CIO Manifesto. Simon explains why culture must come before strategy and transformation, and introduces his memorable “hamburger culture” metaphor — where leadership sets direction from the top, teams take ownership from the bottom, and sustainable culture is built together. The conversation also explores diversity beyond gender, including diversity of thought, background and neurodiversity, and why inclusive teams are better equipped to solve complex problems. Simon shares how mentoring and sponsorship, particularly for women in STEM, are both deeply human and strategically vital. Simon offers practical examples of how he fosters listening and psychological safety at scale — from skip-level meetings and “CTO Connect” sessions to an anonymous “Ask the CTO” channel and an internal technology podcast. The episode also dives into AI leadership, addressing the pace of change, the risks of shiny-object syndrome, and the importance of clear use cases, strong data foundations and ethical governance. Simon reinforces a critical reminder: technology alone does not create value — people and process do. He closes with reflections on self-care, energy management and why leaders must look after themselves first in order to lead others well. _____________________________________ 🎬 IN OUR EPISODE: 00:00 – Welcome to The Mindful CIO Podcast, Introduction and context for the conversation 02:10 – Beyond the CV: A Personal Leadership Insight Simon shares a candid reflection from his leadership journey 03:00 – Leading at Scale: Staying Grounded on Big Stages Public speaking, presence and composure in high-stakes environments 05:00 – Why Change Management Must Start on Day One Early investment as a success multiplier 05:20 – The Mindful CIO Manifesto and the Power of “Less Is More” 06:00 – Culture Before Strategy The foundation of sustainable performance 07:40 – The “Hamburger Culture” Metaphor Shared ownership from leadership and teams 08:50 – Diversity as a Performance Advantage Beyond gender to lived experience and thinking styles 11:00 – Neurodiversity and the Strength of Tech Teams Why technology roles suit different cognitive strengths 12:30 – Making Change Human and Tangible Driving adoption through communication and storytelling 16:50 – Sustaining Energy While Leading Complex Change Travel, boundaries and personal rhythms 21:20 – Managing Energy, Not Just Time Physical, mental and emotional energy buckets 24:20 – Leadership Role Models and Paying It Forward Mentorship, influence and legacy 31:00 – Listening at Scale: Building Trust Across Teams Skip-levels, CTO Connect and psychological safety 36:30 – Navigating the Pace of Change and Responsible AI Strategy, governance and human-centred adoption 54:50 – Final Reflections on Sustainable High Performance Leadership maturity and long-term impact _____________________________________ 🎙️LISTEN & SUBSCRIBE TO OUR AUDIO PODCAST ✦ Website: ⁠⁠https://mindfulcio.community/podcast⁠⁠ (https://mindfulcio.community/podcast)/ ✦ Apple: ⁠⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/podcast/mindful-cio-podcast/id1765106205⁠⁠ (https://podcasts.apple.com/podcast/mindful-cio-podcast/id1765106205) ✦ Spotify: ⁠⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/1gomcBWSDwdfoEZeZD7Usu⁠ (https://open.spotify.com/show/1gomcBWSDwdfoEZeZD7Usu) _____________________________________ 🔗CONNECT WITH SIMON REITER *Linkedin - https://www.linkedin.com/in/reitersimon/

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   11 Aug 2025TRANSCRIPT

   Episode #8 - Be Humble, Be Present, Be a Storyteller: Angela Anthony on Human-Centred Leadership

   In this episode of The Mindful CIO Podcast, host Nathalie Heynderickx is joined by Angela Anthony, Executive General Manager of IT & Digital at DuluxGroup. With over three decades of global tech and transformation experience, Angela offers an inspiring and practical view of what human-centred leadership looks like in the modern CIO role. Angela reflects on her multicultural family, global career, and what it means to lead with presence, empathy, and humility. She discusses the core values of the Mindful CIO Manifesto — particularly diversity, sustainability and humanity — and how they guide her leadership every day. She unpacks the true meaning of diversity — going beyond gender to embrace diversity of thought, background, and neurodiversity. Drawing from roles in aviation, health, and manufacturing, Angela shares how diverse teams outperform by covering blind spots and building richer solutions. We also explore self-care as a leadership practice. Angela reveals her daily rituals — Pilates and regular dog walks — and the importance of reclaiming time for wellbeing in order to show up fully for her team and strategic challenges. A passionate mentor and people developer, Angela shares stories about the leaders who saw her potential before she did — and how she now pays it forward. We discuss how mentoring and coaching aren’t just altruistic — they create stronger, more resilient organisations. From navigating complex stakeholder relationships to driving global transformation, Angela speaks candidly about the non-technical side of tech leadership. She highlights the power of storytelling in building buy-in and bringing change to life across all levels of the organisation. She also tackles the challenges of cybersecurity, data readiness, and the ethical adoption of AI — calling for shared accountability, clear role clarity, and keeping humans firmly in the loop. Angela’s leadership mantra? Be humble, be present, and be a great storyteller. _____________________________________ 🎬 IN OUR EPISODE: 00:00 Welcome to The Mindful CIO Podcast 01:47 Meet Angela Anthony: Global Tech Leader at Dulux Group 03:15 Personal insights: A “United Nations” family story 04:47 Why diversity, humanity, and sustainability matter more than ever 05:46 Diversity beyond gender - culture, thought, and neurodiversity 06:26 Avoiding the “mini-me” trap in leadership 10:21 Self-care rituals: Pilates, dog walks, and walk-and-talks 14:00 Leadership role models from Barack Obama to workplace mentors 17:00 Mentoring future leaders and quieting the inner critic 24:18 Leading change with a human-centred lens 33:46 Current challenges in AI, data, and cybersecurity at Dulux Group 43:00 Responsible AI - ethics, bias, and keeping humans in the loop 50:50 Final reflections on humility, presence, and storytelling in leadership _____________________________________ 🎙️LISTEN & SUBSCRIBE TO OUR AUDIO PODCAST ✦ Website: ⁠https://mindfulcio.community/podcast⁠ (https://mindfulcio.community/podcast)/ ✦ Apple: ⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/podcast/mindful-cio-podcast/id1765106205⁠ (https://podcasts.apple.com/podcast/mindful-cio-podcast/id1765106205) ✦ Spotify: ⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/1gomcBWSDwdfoEZeZD7Usu (https://open.spotify.com/show/1gomcBWSDwdfoEZeZD7Usu) _____________________________________ 🔗CONNECT WITH ANGELA ANTHONY * LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/angelasanthony/ (https://www.linkedin.com/in/angelasanthony/)

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   1 Jul 2025TRANSCRIPT

   Episode #7 - Psych. Safety, Priorities and Presence: The Leadership Philosophy of Miranda Ratajski

   Host Nathalie Heynderickx interviews Miranda Ratajski, CIO of Group Business Units at Westpac, about her leadership philosophy, psychological safety, prioritization, and presence, revealing insights on fostering healthy cultures and sustainable high performance in tech teams.

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    30 Apr 2025TRANSCRIPT

    Episode #6 - Letting Go, Lifting Others: How Great CIOs Evolve with the Role with Adam Carthew

    In this episode of The Mindful CIO Podcast, Nathalie Heynderickx connects with Adam Carthew, Chief Information Officer at Service Victoria and one of Australia’s Top 50 CIOs (2021 to 2023). With a career spanning executive roles at ANZ, Coles Financial Services, and Target Australia, Adam brings a rich perspective on the human side of tech leadership, especially within the shifting dynamics of government and the digital age. Adam shares his compelling transformation from being “the smartest person in the room” as a solution architect to becoming an empowering, people focused leader. He reflects on a pivotal moment when coaching helped him shift his leadership centre of gravity from self-validation to team outcomes, sparking a lasting change in how he develops others. Drawing on personal stories, Adam explores how diversity of thought, managing up as well as down, and responding humbly to feedback are essential traits for today’s CIOs. He unpacks his leadership philosophy using a unique metaphor: the Maremma dog versus the Border Collie, illustrating the difference between trust led leadership and fear-based management. From transitioning between the private and public sectors to navigating AI adoption in government, Adam shares insights on sustainable digital delivery, responsible innovation, and building high performance cultures. He opens up about the pressure of big transformations, leading through crisis, and his belief that “leadership is about behaviour, not title.” This episode is rich with practical advice for aspiring and seasoned CIOs alike on aligning teams to purpose, leading with humility, and creating cultures where discretionary effort thrives. Quote of the episode:"Leadership is about who you are. Management is about what you do." – Adam Carthew 🎬 IN OUR EPISODE: 00:00 – Introduction to the Mindful CIOPodcast 02:50 – Meet Adam Carthew: CIO at Service Victoria 03:09 – A Surprising Start: Missionary Work and Early Leadership Lessons 04:13 – Reflections on The Mindful CIO Manifesto 05:46 – The Power of Diversity and Challenging Your Thinking 07:11 – From Architect to People Leader: A Career-Defining Shift 11:09 – Coaching, Humility and the Journey from “Smartest” to “Most Effective” 11:43 – Managing Up, Building Influence and Navigating Perception 12:21 – Staying Grounded: Golf, Family and What Really Matters 16:45 – Private vs Public Sector: Leadership Lessons from Both Worlds 20:59 – Leading Through Crisis: Building a New Team at Target 26:58 – Influence Without Authority: The ANZ Asia-Pacific Story 30:23 – Responsible AI in Government and the Role of Policy 35:57 – The Maremma Metaphor: Leadership by Trust, Not Fear 41:09 – Final Thoughts: Advice for Aspiring Tech Leaders 🎙️ LISTEN & SUBSCRIBE TO OUR AUDIO PODCAST ✦ Website: https://mindfulcio.community/podcast/ ✦ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TheMindfulCIO-Community (https://www.youtube.com/@TheMindfulCIO-Community) ✦ Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/mindful-cio-podcast/id1765106205 (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/mindful-cio-podcast/id1765106205) ✦ Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1gomcBWSDwdfoEZeZD7Usu?si=d5c28da86c984e2a (https://open.spotify.com/show/1gomcBWSDwdfoEZeZD7Usu?si=d5c28da86c984e2a) ___________________ 🔗 CONNECT WITH ADAM CARTHEW LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamrcarthew/ (https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamrcarthew/) CIO50 Awards Australia 2023 - https://www.cio.com/awardee/642638/adam-carthew.html (https://www.cio.com/awardee/642638/adam-carthew.html)

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    19 Feb 2025TRANSCRIPT

    Episode #5 - Vulnerability and Growth in Tech Leadership with Jorge Silveira

    In this episode of the Mindful CIO Podcast, host Nathalie Heynderickx speaks with Jorge Silveira, a multi-award-winning senior executive recognized for his transformative work in healthcare, automotive, government, and technology sectors. Jorge shares personal anecdotes from his childhood in Brazil and reveals his lesser-known passions for painting, sculpting, and songwriting. The conversation delves into the principles of the Mindful CIO Manifesto, particularly the support for leaders' growth, and how Jorge fosters a culture of trust and empowerment within his teams. He emphasizes the importance of passion, belief, and behaviour alignment in leadership. The discussion also explores the role of CIOs and CDOs in the age of AI, stressing the need for multidisciplinary oversight and business acumen. Jorge highlights the critical need for organizations to understand their core purpose and align their AI strategies accordingly. This episode offers profound insights into leadership, vulnerability, and the responsible implementation of AI in tech. 🎬 IN OUR EPISODE: 00:00 Introduction to the Mindful CIO Podcast 00:15 Meet Jorge Silveira: A Visionary Leader 03:14 Personal Insights: Beyond the LinkedIn Profile 04:45 The Mindful CIO Manifesto 04:52 Empowering Leadership and Growth 09:00 The Importance of Vulnerability in Leadership 17:02 Self-Care Strategies for High-Pressure Roles 22:00 Building Strong Team Relationships 22:51 The Sinkhole Metaphor: Supporting Each Other 28:10 Childhood Lessons 33:03 Inspiring Leadership: Role Models and Mentors 38:48 The Importance of Purpose inCareer Choices 41:50 Non-Technical Aspects of TechLeadership 47:44 Learning About a New Organisation 51:23 The Ownership of AI in Organisations 56:55 Keys to Leading High-Performing TechTeams 01:05:21 Final Thoughts and Farewell ___________________ 🎙️LISTEN & SUBSCRIBE TO OUR AUDIO PODCAST ✦ Website: https://mindfulcio.community/podcast/ ✦ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TheMindfulCIO-Community (https://www.youtube.com/@TheMindfulCIO-Community) ✦ Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/mindful-cio-podcast/id1765106205 (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/mindful-cio-podcast/id1765106205) ✦ Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1gomcBWSDwdfoEZeZD7Usu?si=d5c28da86c984e2a (https://open.spotify.com/show/1gomcBWSDwdfoEZeZD7Usu?si=d5c28da86c984e2a) ___________________ 🔗 CONNECT WITH JORGE SILVEIRA LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jorgesilveira/ (https://www.linkedin.com/in/jorgesilveira/) AI Leadership Series S1E3: TheRise of the Chief Artificial Intelligence Officer (CAIO):  https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/ai-leadership-series-s1e3-rise-chief-artificial-officer-silveira-vpa7c/?trackingId=bPbEBZdODt3Jk9M3eeabbw%3D%3D (https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/ai-leadership-series-s1e3-rise-chief-artificial-officer-silveira-vpa7c/?trackingId=bPbEBZdODt3Jk9M3eeabbw%3D%3D) Music Lyrics - (Under MichaelO’Brandel artistic name) Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/artist/0bvXEjTbsv0O39gFljLlbK?si=229xEYVJRAy9xb_aJ_TkXw (https://open.spotify.com/artist/0bvXEjTbsv0O39gFljLlbK?si=229xEYVJRAy9xb_aJ_TkXw) Apple Music - https://music.apple.com/au/artist/michael-obrandel/1784747087 (https://music.apple.com/au/artist/michael-obrandel/1784747087) Video Clips: Valentine https://youtu.be/Xy5Kr0e_v8Y?feature=shared (https://youtu.be/Xy5Kr0e_v8Y?feature=shared) Sculptures: Australian BoabTrees Website - https://www.iamboab.com (https://www.iamboab.com/)

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    19 Jan 2025

    Episode #4 – From Construction Sites to C-Suite: An Unconventional Path to Tech Leadership with Hani Arab

    In Episode 4 of the MINDFUL CIO podcast, we spoke with Hani Arab, CIO of Seymour Whyte, an award-winning Australian company. Hani shared his journey from civil engineering in the construction industry to his current role as CIO. He reflected on how leadership in the tech sector has evolved and offered his perspective on servant and mindful leadership. As a mature leader, Hani emphasised the importance of empathy and adaptability. He discussed how understanding the unique needs of your team and fostering a culture of camaraderie can unlock their full potential. He also highlighted the drawbacks of micromanagement and command-and-control leadership styles, advocating for empowering teams to drive long-term success. Our conversation was genuine, thought-provoking, and packed with invaluable leadership insights. We trust it will inspire you to adopt some of Hani’s wisdom and take your own leadership journey to the next level. Chapters 00:00 Introduction 01:56 Guest Introduction: Hani Arab 03:35 Hani's Career Journey 05:30 Personal Insights and Hobbies 07:45 The Mindful CIO Manifesto 08:07 Servant Leadership 08:27 Empathy and Leadership Styles 10:32 Downsides of Micro-managing 12:01 Curiosity and Ongoing Learning 14:15 Command and Control leadership 15:49 Self Care Activities and Routines 16:37 The Power and Benefits of Pause and Prayer 19:31 Roles Models and Inspiration of Great Leadership 23:08 With Great Power comes Great Responsibility 25:24 Sustainable High Performance 28:55 Leading Change and Communicating the Vision 29:40 Stakeholders Relationship Development 31:55 Defining the Future State in a New Role 33:46 A Critical Habit for Successful Leadership 36:25 Engaging the Board with Hard Metrics and ROI 39.15 Getting to Know Your Team and Their Motivations 42:27 Final Thoughts – Snippets of Wisdom Connect with Us: Follow the podcast for more discussions on Mindful Leadership in Tech. Subscribe and hit the bell icon to stay updated on our latest episodes! Links from this episode: • Connect with Hani Arab on LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/hani-arab/recent-activity/articles/ • ADAPT Interview with Hani Arab - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwczvU50jgk • SIT-DOWN Roundtable with Hani Arab - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5Bzl5b9KX8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5Bzl5b9KX8) • Nat’s LinkedIn article on Servant Leadership - https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/what-servant-leadership-nathalie-heynderickx/ (https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/what-servant-leadership-nathalie-heynderickx/) #Sefcare #Empathy #ServantLeadership #MindfulLeadership #Podcast #CIO # CTO

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    30 Nov 2024TRANSCRIPT

    Episode #3 - Building a Sustainable and Purpose-Driven Tech Environment with Henrik Mitsch

    Henrik Mitsch, VP Digital at Elli Volkswagen Group Charging, shares insights on building a sustainable and purpose-driven tech environment through mindful leadership and systems thinking.

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    22 Oct 2024TRANSCRIPT

    EPISODE#2 - From Crisis Management to Board Engagement with Ben Allwood

    Join us for an engaging conversation with Ben Allwood, CIO of IPD Group, as he shares his inspiring journey from engineering and robotics to leading digital transformation. Ben's passion for technology extends to his home life, where he encourages his children’s interest through hands-on projects. In this episode, we explore the key elements of a healthy work culture and effective leadership. Ben draws from historical examples to highlight the importance of open communication and respect, even during disagreements. He also shares his strategies for maintaining balance while managing the demands of multiple time zones. We'll discuss how to preserve company culture amid technological advancements, as well as the critical roles of cybersecurity, AI and data governance. Join us for this insightful discussion on creating a unified and innovative organization. Chapters 00:00 – Introduction 01:50 - Interview starts 03:03 – Ben’s Journey 07:39 – His Baptism by Fire at IDP Group 10:14 – Reflections on the Mindful CIO Manifesto 11:06 – Defining Healthy Culture 13:53 – Self-care and Delegation 16:28 – Boundaries and Time Zones 17:57 – The Power of Pause 21:24 – Acquisitions, Culture and Tech 28:16 - Cultural Fit vs. Cultural Diversity 33:34 – Board Engagement, Cyber and AI 41:36 - Technology as an Enabler 42:15 – Successful Change Management 45:02 - Outgrowing your role and organization 47:19 - Closing Remarks Connect with Us: Follow the podcast for more discussions on Mindful Leadership in Tech. Subscribe and hit the bell icon to stay updated on our latest episodes! Links from this episode: IDP Group - https://ipdgroup.com.au/ (https://ipdgroup.com.au/) Ben Allwood LinkedIn Profile - www.linkedin.com/in/ben-allwood-65095419IDP (http://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-allwood-65095419IDP) AICD – Australian Institute of Company Directors - https://www.aicd.com.au/ (https://www.aicd.com.au/) The Mindful CIO Manifesto 1.0 - https://mindfulcio.community/manifesto-1-0/ (https://mindfulcio.community/manifesto-1-0/) The Mindful CIO Manifesto 2.0 - https://mindfulcio.community/manifesto-2-0/ (https://mindfulcio.community/manifesto-2-0/) The 5 Dysfunctions of a Team (healthy conflict) – Patrick Lencioni - https://www.amazon.com.au/Five-Dysfunctions-Team-Leadership-Fable/dp/0787960756 (https://www.amazon.com.au/Five-Dysfunctions-Team-Leadership-Fable/dp/0787960756) #MindfulLeadership (https://www.youtube.com/hashtag/leadership) #Podcast (https://www.youtube.com/hashtag/podcast) #CIO # CTO

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    1 Oct 2024TRANSCRIPT

    Episode #1 - Leading with Heart and Mind: Human-Centered Tech Leadership with Andrew Ogbourne

    --------- EPISODE SUMMARY --------- What if the key to successful tech leadership lies not in your technical skills but in your ability to understand and motivate people? This episode of the Mindful CIO Podcast features Andrew Ogbourne, an IT veteran whose career spans across publishing, insurance, and community services. Andrew takes us on a journey from his academic roots in physics and maths to his present role where he emphasizes the human elements of technology leadership. Discover how technology serves as an enabler rather than the star of the show and gain insights into creating sustainable, inspiring work environments. Andrew shares the principles of the Mindful CIO Manifesto, advocating for the power of emotional intelligence and the importance of recognizing neurodiversity within teams. By understanding personal motivations and valuing different strengths, leaders can cultivate a high-performing and enjoyable workplace culture. We explore how caring about employees can lead to greater commitment and discretionary effort, and why human skills often trump technical proficiency in effective leadership. Finally, the conversation shifts to the complexities of leading organizational change and the importance of prioritization and adaptability. Andrew underscores the necessity of self-acceptance, self-compassion, and empathy, drawing inspiration from Kristen Neff’s work. Learn how to embrace uncertainty, plan flexibly, and lead with vulnerability to foster trust and open problem-solving within your team. This episode offers a comprehensive guide to human-centered tech leadership, blending personal anecdotes with practical advice to ensure productivity and well-being. --------- REFERENCES --------- • Andrew Ogbourne LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/aogbourne/ • Kristen Neff research on self-compassion - https://self-compassion.org/the-research/ • Martin Seligman – Achievement, one of the 5 pillars of holistic wellbeing - PERMA Model - https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/perma-wellbeing-model-nathalie-heynderickx/ --------- ENTITIES --------- • Make a Wish Foundation – https://www.makeawish.org.au/ Murdoch Children's Research Institute - https://www.mcri.edu.au/ • Deloitte Australia - https://www.deloitte.com/au/en.html --------- EPISODE CHAPTERS --------- (0:00:03) - Leadership in Tech (0:10:10) - The Mindful CIO Manifesto - Human Skills over Technical Prowess (0:24:10) - Building Empathy and Positive Relationships (0:32:50) - Leading Change (0:41:03) - Leading With Focus and Adaptability (0:48:37) - Embracing Uncertainty in Leadership --------- EPISODE KEYWORDS --------- Tech Leadership, Emotional Intelligence, Human Skills, Positive Workplace, Neurodiversity, Organizational Change, Purposeful Organizations, Sustainable Work Environments, Mindful CIO Manifesto, Empathy, Positive Relationships, Self-Acceptance, Self-Compassion, Kristen Neff, Empowering Work Environment, Leading Change, IT Departments, Prioritization, Adaptability, Vulnerability, High-Performance Teams, Eisenhower, Humility, Problem-Solving, Leading by Example, Mindfulness Meditation

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    27 Aug 2024TRANSCRIPT

    Episode 0 – Welcome to The Mindful CIO Podcast

    In this inaugural episode of the Mindful CIO podcast, I, your host Nathalie Heynderickx, introduce the purpose, format and vision for the podcast. I discuss the aim to interview Australian and international tech executives to explore the human side of tech leadership and what it takes to mindfully and sustainably lead high performing tech teams, in the midst of the fifth revolution. Listeners are encouraged to participate actively by providing feedback and suggesting future guests. I shared my personal background and motivations to host the podcast. Tune in to next episodes to learn the strategies, tactics and practical tips from our inspiring guest speakers and become an even better tech leader!

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Episode #15 - AI Maturity: Moving from Adoption to Real Value

Published 9 Sept 2026 · Transcript excerpt

[…] So I have to say, you have the agency to do this. but you're not authorized to go beyond this point. I do not authorize you. You've got to come and ask for explicit authorization if you cross the boundaries. And then the autonomous, you can do this all by yourself. Don't stop and wait for me. But these tasks, you cannot do autonomous. So I dictate where it is fully autonomous, fully authorized, where it is semi-authorized, semi-autonomous, full agency, right? So it's these three levers you can move to set up systems well. It's a really simple, elegant framework, you know, agency, authority, and autonomy. […]

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