The future of finance is digital. Welcome to Money Code, the show that decodes stablecoins and the evolution of programmable money for builders, investors, and decision-makers. Each week, join hosts Chuk Okpalugo, Author of Stablecoin Blueprint and Raj Parekh, Head of Payments/Stablecoins at Monad Foundation as they break down the systems and strategies of seasoned operators in the space, revealing the insights you need for better build and buy decisions.
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The future of finance is digital. Welcome to Money Code, the show that decodes stablecoins and the evolution of programmable money for builders, investors, and decision-makers. Each week, join hosts Chuk Okpalugo, Author of Stablecoin Blueprint and Raj Parekh, Head of Payments/Stablecoins at Monad Foundation as they break down the systems and strategies of seasoned operators in the space, revealing the insights you need for better build and buy decisions.
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March 19, 2026
70 Countries Without a Single Download w/ May Zabeneh
<p>Presented by Stablecon; Powered by BVNK.</p><p><br></p><p>In this episode of Money Code, hosts Chuk Okpalugo and Raj Parekh sit down with May Zabeneh, SVP and GM of Crypto at PayPal, where she's building the playbook for how a major fintech embeds stablecoins into existing payment infrastructure.</p><p>They unpack how PayPal enabled stablecoins in millions of wallets and the bets they hope to pay off, how "disrupting yourself is painful but important for long-term success," and why the best stablecoin strategy might be one where nobody needs to say the word "crypto."</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Subscribe and listen to the Money Code podcast here:</strong></p><p>https://lnk.to/MoneyCodeSN</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Chapters</strong></p><p>00:00 PYUSD goes live in 70 countries - and users don't need to do anything</p><p>01:48 Why custodial stablecoins are harder than open wallets</p><p>04:25 "They can't even hold balance today": the utility unlock</p><p>07:52 Should crypto and stablecoins even share a name?</p><p>11:23 Foundations before flywheel: hold, earn, send, spend - in that order</p><p>14:56 Payouts as the Trojan horse: gig workers and Google creators</p><p>17:36 "There were times we were trying to do too much"</p><p>20:15 No playbook existed - PayPal had to write it</p><p>23:50 Disrupting yourself inside a public company</p><p>28:12 "You don't need to touch crypto": abstracting it away for merchants</p><p>32:37 The Skype analogy: interoperability as the real growth driver</p><p>35:42 AI agents will need programmable money - but not yet</p><p>41:50 Success means stablecoins become invisible infrastructure</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Connect with the Hosts & Guest</strong></p><p>Chuk Okpalugo: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chuk-okpalugo/ | https://x.com/chuk_xyz/ | http://stablecoinblueprint.com</p><p>Raj Parekh: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rajparekh7/ | https://x.com/rajparekh | http://monad.xyz</p><p>May Zabeneh: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/mayzabaneh/"><u>https://www.linkedin.com/in/mayzabaneh/</u></a> | http://paypal.com/</p><p><br></p><p><strong>About Stablecon</strong></p><p>Stablecon (https://stablecon.com/) is the premier gathering for those at the intersection of DeFi, economic policy, financial infrastructure, and institutional integration, and those reinventing global commerce. By convening the brightest minds in fintech and crypto, Stablecon provides attendees with world class thought leadership and fosters unparalleled networking and strategic collaboration across the digital payments industry. Whether you're building, advising, or navigating this new frontier, this is the room where it happens.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>About BVNK</strong></p><p>BVNK is the leading provider of stablecoin payments infrastructure, helping businesses move money faster, settle globally, and even launch their own stablecoin products. Head to https://bvnk.com/ to learn more.</p>
March 12, 2026
Stablecoins Won't Build Themselves w/ Zach Abrams
<p>Presented by Stablecon; Powered by BVNK.</p><p><br></p><p>In this episode of Money Code, hosts Chuk Okpalugo and Raj Parekh sit down with Zach Abrams, co-founder and CEO of Bridge, the stablecoin infrastructure company acquired by Stripe that grew several multiples in 2025.</p><p>They unpack why Zach calls himself "the founder equivalent of a child of the Great Depression," how following developers into the "fog of war" built five businesses in two years, and why stablecoins won't realize their potential unless someone forces the economics away from existing issuers and back to consumers.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Subscribe and listen to the Money Code podcast here:</strong></p><p>https://lnk.to/MoneyCodeSN</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Chapters</strong></p><p>00:00 How Bridge went from early adopters to mainstream in three months</p><p>02:54 "The founder equivalent of a Great Depression child"</p><p>06:09 Why stablecoins are the first global financial building block</p><p>07:30 Agentic payments: planting seeds for the next cycle</p><p>14:30 How one use case kept pulling Bridge into the next</p><p>18:45 The $10B ceiling that forced a bank charter</p><p>22:50 "Everyone is competing on maximal regulation"</p><p>31:42 Why "focus" is wrong advice for this market</p><p>36:17 The Stripe acquisition made things harder, not easier</p><p>43:42 How one customer becomes five products</p><p>49:30 Why tokenized stocks beat real ones at half the borrowing cost</p><p>52:55 "If we don't build it, no one else will"</p><p>58:47 Where to find Zach and Bridge</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Connect with the Hosts & Guest</strong></p><p>Chuk Okpalugo: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chuk-okpalugo/ | https://x.com/chuk_xyz/ | http://stablecoinblueprint.com</p><p>Raj Parekh: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rajparekh7/ | https://x.com/rajparekh | http://monad.xyz</p><p>Zach Abrams: https://x.com/zcabrams | https://bridge.xyz</p><p><br></p><p><strong>About Stablecon</strong></p><p>Stablecon (https://stablecon.com/) is the premier gathering for those at the intersection of DeFi, economic policy, financial infrastructure, and institutional integration, and those reinventing global commerce. By convening the brightest minds in fintech and crypto, Stablecon provides attendees with world class thought leadership and fosters unparalleled networking and strategic collaboration across the digital payments industry. Whether you're building, advising, or navigating this new frontier, this is the room where it happens.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>About BVNK</strong></p><p>BVNK is the leading provider of stablecoin payments infrastructure, helping businesses move money faster, settle globally, and even launch their own stablecoin products. Head to https://bvnk.com/ to learn more.</p>
March 5, 2026
Stablecoins Aren't for Americans w/ Ayo Omojola
<p>Presented by Stablecon; Powered by BVNK.</p><p>In this episode of Money Code, hosts Chuk Okpalugo and Raj Parekh sit down with Ayo Omojola, General Partner at Refract VC, former Cash App banking lead, and organizer of A Very Stable Conference. </p><p>They unpack why the biggest stablecoin opportunity isn't in the US, where Chase is "ferocious" and payments feel good enough, but in serving billions of people worldwide who can now access dollar-denominated savings from an app store, and why $300B in circulating supply is still peanuts compared to what's coming.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Subscribe and listen to the Money Code podcast here:</strong></p><p>https://lnk.to/MoneyCodeSN</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Chapters</strong></p><p>00:00 Investing in stablecoins: why people matter more than tech</p><p>03:30 The wealth flight thesis: why rich people move money to Switzerland</p><p>08:00 Agentic payments: real or overhyped?</p><p>12:35 A Very Stable Conference: catching lightning in a bottle</p><p>19:20 The Jamie Dimon problem: competing with Chase</p><p>26:00 Why long sales cycles are a product problem</p><p>28:50 Cash App parallels: "we knew a secret"</p><p>34:15 $300B is peanuts — the real market sizing math</p><p>37:15 Why incumbents have paper-thin advantages</p><p>42:45 "Fish don't feel the water as wet"</p><p>49:20 Non-USD stablecoins: institutional gaps as the foothold</p><p>54:30 Where to find Ayo and A Very Stable Conference</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Connect with the Hosts & Guest</strong></p><p>Chuk Okpalugo: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chuk-okpalugo/ | https://x.com/chuk_xyz/ | http://stablecoinblueprint.com</p><p><br></p><p>Raj Parekh: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rajparekh7/ | https://x.com/rajparekh | http://monad.xyz</p><p><br></p><p>Ayo Omojola: https://x.com/ay_o | https://kunle.app</p><p><br></p><p><strong>About Stablecon</strong></p><p>Stablecon (https://stablecon.com/) is the premier gathering for those at the intersection of DeFi, economic policy, financial infrastructure, and institutional integration, and those reinventing global commerce. By convening the brightest minds in fintech and crypto, Stablecon provides attendees with world class thought leadership and fosters unparalleled networking and strategic collaboration across the digital payments industry. Whether you're building, advising, or navigating this new frontier, this is the room where it happens.</p><p><strong>About BVNK</strong></p><p>BVNK is the leading provider of stablecoin payments infrastructure, helping businesses move money faster, settle globally, and even launch their own stablecoin products. Head to https://bvnk.com/ to learn more.</p>
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