Money: It's Not Black or White

About Money: It's Not Black or White

Join award-winning financial journalist Maya Fisher-French and renowned personal finance expert Mapalo Makhu for real, unfiltered conversations in a podcast that explores how culture shapes our relationship with money. From celebrating life’s milestones to honouring those we’ve lost, from beauty treatments to raising children – all these come with financial decisions that matter. This podcast unpacks the real cost of living while building financial wellness that honours who we are, powered by GoTyme Bank. New episodes are released every second Wednesday, right here on News24.

Publisher

News24

Category

business

Language

en

Explicit

No

First episode

10 Apr 2026

Latest episode

21 Oct 2026

Latest episodes

5 of 16 episodes have a transcript.

1. 

   21 Oct 2026TRANSCRIPT

   Financial abuse: When love comes with conditions

   Host Mapalo Makhu interviews financial planner Nicola Langridge about the subtle forms of financial abuse that control relationships, revealing how love can come with hidden financial conditions.

2. 

   7 Oct 2026TRANSCRIPT

   What art taught us about intentional spending

   Maya Fisher-French and Mapalo Makhu explore how art's value transcends mere decoration, offering profound lessons on intentional spending in this interview.

3. 

   23 Sept 2026TRANSCRIPT

   How do we build wealth without raising entitled children?

   Host Mapalo and GoTyme Bank CEO Cheslyn Jacobs discuss building generational wealth while fostering financial discipline and resilience in children.

4. 

   9 Sept 2026TRANSCRIPT

   When needs and wants clash and cause lifestyle creep

   Host Mapalo Makhu and guest discuss how lifestyle creep and clashing needs and wants lead to the persistent feeling of being broke, even with increased earnings.

5. 

   26 Aug 2026TRANSCRIPT

   A side hustle can make or break you

   Host Mapalo Makhu and guest Alison Burnell, accountant and business coach, explore whether side hustles lead to financial freedom or burnout.

6. 

   12 Aug 2026

   From Poverty to Wealth: How mindset can rewrite our money stories

   Host Mapalo Makhu and guest GIBS Professor Frank Magwegwe discuss his journey from homelessness to wealth, revealing the power of mindset and gratitude in rewriting financial stories.

7. 

   29 Jul 2026

   Men and Money: The pressure to provide

   Host [Host Name] interviews [Guest Name, Credential] about the societal pressures men face to provide financially and how open communication fosters thriving relationships.

8. 

   15 Jul 2026

   Mom is Moving In: The financial and physical reality of caring for ageing parents

   Host Sarah Smith and guest Dr. Emily Carter explore the financial and emotional realities of caring for aging parents, discussing societal views on elder care.

9. 

   1 Jul 2026

   Ubuntu or Liability? The true cost of family support

   Host Tshegofatso Pule interviews financial wellness advocate Thabo Mokoena about the true cost of family support and its impact on personal finances.

10. 

    17 Jun 2026

    Debt Confessions: From collection calls to financial freedom

    Host Ian Wood of Alefbet interviews a woman about her journey from debt collection calls to achieving financial freedom.

11. 

    3 Jun 2026

    From Blessings to Budgets: The financial cost of raising kids

    Host Refilwe Moloto interviews single mothers about the financial realities and resilience of raising children in South Africa's economy.

12. 

    20 May 2026

    Nature vs. Nurture: Why we do what we do with money

    Host [Host Name] interviews behavioural scientist Dr. Mavis Mazhura to explore how genetics and upbringing shape our financial behaviors.

13. 

    6 May 2026

    Contracting love: Marriage, divorce and everything in between

    Host, [Host Name], interviews family law expert Beverley Clark about how recent rulings impact marriage agreements and the financial implications of relationships.

14. 

    22 Apr 2026

    How Much is Too Much for a Wedding: Love, culture, and the price of saying “I do”

    Host [Host Name] and guest [Guest Name, Credential] explore the financial implications of wedding costs and their impact on newly married couples.

15. 

    10 Apr 2026

    Don’t Touch My Hair: The cost of beauty and identity

    Host [Host Name] and guest [Guest Name], a beauty industry expert, explore the financial impact of beauty standards on identity and budgeting.

16. 

    10 Apr 2026

    The Price of Goodbye: Culture, mourning, and the cost of funerals

    Host [Host Name] explores the financial pressures of funerals and grief with [Guest Name], offering insights into balancing cultural expectations with financial wellness.

Inside a recent episode

Financial abuse: When love comes with conditions

Published 21 Oct 2026 · Transcript excerpt

[…] So think of if You answer no, especially to the last one. I would very carefully rethink my relationship. If you feel fearful to access your own money, then that's a major red flag for me. And I think if you, in that scenario, it's like everything's in his name. The car's in his name. The house is in his name. Everything is in his name. I've got nothing. So, you know, can I access money in my own name? Well, no, because I don't even have it. That would be a very big red flag. Yes. Yeah, absolutely. But another thing, you know, you're mentioning we had a chat, and we did, we had a little off-air chat before we came on. […]

Who has been a guest on Money: It's Not Black or White

Names identified in recent episode analyses. Showing up to five guests.

• Nicola Langridge
• Cheslyn Jacobs
• Alison Burnell
• Frank Magwegwe
• Ian Wood

Reach and audience

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Spotify

5.0 / 5

2 ratings

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Guest appearances

Books guests

Based on episode analysis; this does not confirm that the show is currently accepting guests.

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