Grammy Winning CCM Mix Engineer Ainslie Grosser dives into Christian music with More Cowbell Please! Hear CCM stars and industry pros like Luke Smallbone, Paul Mabury, Jordan Mohilowski, John Mays share real faith-driven stories of humor, heartbreak, career highlights and losses. The people who wrote, produced and signed some of the greats like Lauren Daigle, Mercy Me, Toby Mac, The Afters, Skillet, Hillsong United and for King and Country . Subscribe for inspiring interviews! #ChristianMusic

More Cowbell Please: CCM Stories
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Grammy Winning CCM Mix Engineer Ainslie Grosser dives into Christian music with More Cowbell Please! Hear CCM stars and industry pros like Luke Smallbone, Paul Mabury, Jordan Mohilowski, John Mays share real faith-driven stories of humor, heartbreak, career highlights and losses. The people who wrote, produced and signed some of the greats like Lauren Daigle, Mercy Me, Toby Mac, The Afters, Skillet, Hillsong United and for King and Country . Subscribe for inspiring interviews! #ChristianMusic
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July 22, 2026
Remembering Bob Farrell — A Tribute to a CCM Pioneer | Farrell & Farrell
<p>Bob Farrell — one half of the husband-and-wife duo Farrell & Farrell — passed away on July 11, 2026. He was one of Contemporary Christian Music's most gifted and innovative songwriters, leaving behind a catalog that stretches from synth-pop CCM classics like "People in a Box" and "Get Right or Get Left" to songs recorded by Eric Clapton, Amy Grant, Sandi Patty, Wynonna, Michael W. Smith, and dozens more.This is our tribute to Bob — his story, his music, and his faith.We cover:- His upbringing in Lubbock, Texas — down the alley from Buddy Holly- A marriage that nearly ended before it began — and the conversion that changed everything- How Farrell & Farrell pioneered synth-pop in Christian music alongside DeGarmo & Key- The Soviet Union tour — 25,000 people a night in Moscow and Leningrad, one year before the Wall came down- 40+ Sandi Patty cuts, the London Symphony Orchestra, and a rock opera with Eddie DeGarmo- What Bob said he wanted to be remembered for — in his own wordsI had the privilege of having Bob record in my studio around 2003. This one is personal.Rest well, Bob. The seeds you planted are still growing.</p><p>0:00 Introduction — The Man Who Almost Wasn't</p><p>0:38 Growing Up in Lubbock — Buddy Holly's Neighbor</p><p>1:32 The Marriage Crisis & Dallas</p><p>1:55 The Kitchen Table Conversion</p><p>3:13 Farrell & Farrell — The Sound They Built</p><p>3:51 Synth Pop Pioneers — The Thomas Dolby Moment</p><p>4:56 People in a Box & The Baskin-Robbins Era of CCM</p><p>5:49 The Songwriter Behind a Hundred Songs</p><p>7:40 Jesus Christ Superstar, Hero & My Studio Session</p><p>8:38 Touring the Soviet Union — Behind the Iron Curtain</p><p>10:04 What He Wanted to Be Remembered For</p><p>10:39 Jane — The Glue That Held It All Together</p><p>11:41 The Legacy</p><p>12:28 A Final Word — In Bob's Own Voice━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━🎙️ More Cowbell Please is a channel dedicated to the stories, artists, and moments that shaped Contemporary Christian Music.New episodes every week.Subscribe → https://www.youtube.com/@morecowbellpleasepodcast?sub_confirmation=1━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━#FarrellandFarrell #BobFarrell #CCM #christianmusic ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━SOURCES & FURTHER LISTENINGBob Farrell interviewed on CCM LegacyCAST (2024):https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOFkupu-dQMBob Farrell interviewed on Music for the Soul podcast:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyY5QLyrcSEBob Farrell's personal video channel:https://www.youtube.com/@bobfarrell2941Bob Farrell's original YouTube channel:https://www.youtube.com/@SPARKYNBCBob Farrell's final personal video ("I Will Be"):https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GodiVbEWlOAFarrell & Farrell official website:https://www.farrellandfarrell.netCCM Magazine tribute:https://www.ccmmagazine.comCCM Classic — Farrell & Farrell artist page:https://www.ccmclassic.com/artist/farrell-and-farrell━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━Get vidIQ to grow your channel faster! 🚀https://vidiq.com/morecowbell</p>

July 17, 2026
Stacey Wilbur | Song Plugger, Songs You Almost Never Heard and TIM publishing
<p>Stacey Wilbur has spent over thirty years in Nashville doing </p><p>a job most music fans have never heard of — song plugging. </p><p>Her role: find the right song, fight for it, and get it into </p><p>the hands of the artist who will make it a hit.</p><p><br></p><p>She helped launch Worship Together. She championed Laura </p><p>Story's "Blessings" when the label wasn't sure it should </p><p>make the record. She worked alongside future stars before </p><p>the world knew their names. And today she heads publishing </p><p>for TIM — the company founded by Chris Tomlin and Jason </p><p>Ingram, two of the most recorded songwriters in Christian </p><p>music history.</p><p><br></p><p>In this conversation, Stacey takes us from a small town </p><p>in Michigan — where a poster of Wynonna Judd on her bedroom </p><p>wall sparked a dream — all the way to the rooms where </p><p>Christian music's biggest songs are pitched, fought for, </p><p>and sometimes saved from the cutting room floor.</p><p><br></p><p>She talks about a stranger who prophesied over her in a </p><p>restaurant before she was even a Christian. About losing </p><p>her job, hearing God say "be still," and what happened </p><p>the very next day when she wrote a name on a piece of paper.</p><p><br></p><p>She tells us about a CEO who didn't have to say anything — </p><p>and chose to anyway.</p><p><br></p><p>This is one of the most honest, funny, and quietly </p><p>remarkable conversations we've had on More Cowbell Please.</p><p><br></p><p>Stacey Wilbur / Head of Publishing, TIM Publishing</p><p>Instagram: @staceyswilbur</p><p><br></p><p>More Cowbell Please is a podcast exploring the stories, </p><p>faith, and people behind Contemporary Christian Music. </p><p>Hosted by Grammy-winning mix engineer Ainslie Grosser.</p><p><br></p><p>Topics in this episode: Christian music industry, song </p><p>plugging, music publishing Nashville, CCM history, </p><p>Worship Together, Chris Tomlin, Laura Story Blessings, </p><p>Mandisa, TIM Publishing, Brentwood Benson, EMI Christian, </p><p>Capitol Christian Music Group, Bill Hearn, Billy Ray Hearn, </p><p>Sparrow Records, faith and work, Nashville music careers.</p><p><br></p><p>Chapters</p><p>0:00 The people behind the songs you love</p><p>0:53 Meet Stacey Wilbur</p><p>1:35 Small town girl with a big dream</p><p>4:51 The prophecy at the restaurant</p><p>5:34 October 2nd — getting saved</p><p>7:57 615 Music Row — how she got in the door</p><p>8:50 The Avalon audition</p><p>11:26 Worship Together / Chris Tomlin / Matt Redman</p><p>11:46 What is a song plugger?</p><p>12:50 The Busby & Daughtry story</p><p>15:15 "It's me" — pitching herself to Gary Overton</p><p>16:41 Honky Tonk Badonkadonk</p><p>17:43 Brentwood Benson — "All the writers say hire you"</p><p>19:05 Chris Sligh / Rascal Flatts / Cracker Barrel</p><p>22:16 Losing the job — the wilderness season</p><p>24:13 Who was Bill Hearn?</p><p>25:19 "I know what happened to you. You matter."</p><p>25:35 Seth Mosley texts the next day</p><p>26:27 The panic attack (and what happened next)</p><p>27:01 TIM Publishing — Chris Tomlin's crazy idea</p><p>27:52 Steffany Gretzinger walks in</p><p>30:09 The Charlie Kirk Memorial</p><p>30:34 iTunes Top 10 worldwide — God is moving</p><p>33:32 Laura Story "Blessings"</p><p>35:41 "I mixed that record"</p><p>36:37 Advice — dream big</p><p>37:50 Be yourself / the Brian Johnson line</p><p>38:50 God's strategies > AI strategies</p><p>39:25 The magnificent defeat</p><p>40:47 Outro</p>

April 30, 2026
The Newsboys Break Their Silence — In Federal Court | Full Lawsuit Breakdown
<p>The Newsboys have filed a sweeping 204-page federal antitrust and defamation lawsuit in Nashville — and the defendant list will stop you in your tracks.</p><p><br></p><p>Wes Campbell and the Newsboys are suing The Roys Report, journalist Jessica Morris (a previous guest on this podcast), MercyMe and all five band members individually, Micah Tyler, World Vision, and a Netherlands-based private equity firm called Waterland — along with the three major Christian concert promoters they allegedly acquired to form a monopoly.</p><p><br></p><p>I break it down block by block — no opinion, just the facts as alleged in the public filing.</p><p><br></p><p>KEY POINTS COVERED:</p><p>- Who the plaintiffs are</p><p>- All four defendant groups explained in plain English</p><p>- The $50 million deal at the center of the antitrust claim</p><p>- The three Fargo claims the complaint makes against TRR and Jessica Morris</p><p>- Why the timing — 14 days after police closed the Tait criminal case — matters</p><p>- Jessica Morris's Instagram response</p><p>- What this lawsuit is NOT (it is not a trial of Michael Tait)</p><p><br></p><p>Full complaint available at newsboyslawsuit.com and tcalawsuit.com. Case number 3:26-cv-00484, U.S. District Court, Middle District of Tennessee.</p><p><br></p><p>All information sourced from publicly filed court documents and established reporting. These are allegations. All parties are presumed innocent.</p><p><br></p><p>More Cowbell Please covers CCM stories with depth and integrity.</p>
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