by Demi Utley
Welcome to the More Magic Book Club, a podcast for fantasy readers dying to talk about the latest fantasy book you read. Each month, we discuss a recent fantasy novel in detail so you know you’re not the only one who hated that character or wanted to move into that fantasy world (and you also don’t have to worry about exhausting your friends who just don’t get it). This podcast is not spoiler-free. Listen at your own risk.
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August 3, 2026
<p>In this extra special book club episode, we chat with author Helene Wecker about her book, The Golem and the Jinni. From historical immersion in 1899 New York to the complexity of a magic system built on belief to characters trapped both physically and mentally, this story has much to discuss. Helene shares many behind-the-scenes aspects of the book and larger trilogy along with amusing anecdotes. You'll laugh and learn a few new things in this episode! </p><p>Channel Chava and grab your favorite pastry, a beautiful tin cup, and join us for this fun discussion. </p><p>Let us know what you think in the comments, and as always, if you enjoyed this episode, please rate, review, and subscribe.</p><p>Prefer email? Sign up at moremagicpodcast.com to receive emails when new episodes release, updates on new projects, and special subscriber-only magic.</p><p>The complete trilogy:</p><p><a href="https://bookshop.org/a/120999/9780062110848" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">The Golem and the Jinni</a></p><p><a href="https://bookshop.org/a/120999/9780062468727" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">The Hidden Palace</a></p><p><a href="https://bookshop.org/a/120999/9780062468680" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">The Gates of Midnight</a></p><p>Helene's website for future updates: <a href="https://www.helenewecker.com/" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">https://www.helenewecker.com/</a></p><p>Credits:</p><p>Host: Demi Utley,<a href="https://demiutley.substack.com/" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer"> https://demiutley.substack.com/</a></p><p>Co-Host: Marianne Boules</p><p>— </p><p>Audio Production - Gregory Mikels</p><p>Additional credits for the music used during the intro and outro:</p><ul><li><p>Remix Composition & Production - Gregory Mikels</p></li><li><p>Danse Sacrée composed by Claude Debussy </p></li><li><p>Public Domain</p></li><li><p>Performed by the United States Marine Chamber Orchestra with Major Jason K. Fettig, conducting, MSgt Karen Grimsey, harp soloist on Aug. 14, 2010, at the Rachel M. Schlesinger Concert Hall and Arts Center at Northern Virginia Community College in Alexandria, Virginia.</p></li></ul><ul><li><p>The Carnival of the Animals composed by Camille Saint-Saëns </p></li></ul><ul><li><p>License - <a href="https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/deed.en" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/deed.en</a> </p></li><li><p>Performers</p></li><ul><li><p>Pianos: Neil and Nancy O'Doan</p></li><li><p>Orchestra: Seattle Youth Symphony, conducted by Vilem Sokol.</p></li><li><p>Recorded 1980</p></li></ul></ul><p>Original music links:</p><ul><li><p><a href="https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Danse_Sacr%C3%A9e.ogg" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Danse_Sacr%C3%A9e.ogg</a> </p></li><li><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Camille_Saint-Sa%C3%ABns_-_The_Carnival_of_the_Animals.ogg" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Camille_Saint-Sa%C3%ABns_-_The_Carnival_of_the_Animals.ogg</a> </p></li></ul>
July 20, 2026
<p>Who doesn't love a book with gods and goddesses? These immortal, powerful being create perfect drama and stories that leave us appreciating our humanity. From Greek mythology retellings to invented mythologies in secondary worlds, there's a book with gods for everyone. In this special episode, authors A.J. Peterson and Rebecca Brodkey join to chat about their love of gods and offer recommendations for your next read. </p><p>Pour a cup of something powerful and settle in for this episode (toga optional). </p><p>Let us know what you think in the comments, and as always, if you enjoyed this episode, please rate, review, and subscribe.</p><p>Prefer email? Sign up at moremagicpodcast.com to receive emails when new episodes release, updates on new projects, and special subscriber-only magic.</p><p>Credits:</p><p>Host: Demi Utley,<a href="https://demiutley.substack.com/"> <u>https://demiutley.substack.com/</u></a></p><p>Guests: </p><p>A.J. Peterson, https://www.ajpeterson.com/</p><p>Rebecca Brodkey, https://www.rebeccabrodkey.com/ </p><p>— </p><p>Audio Production - Gregory Mikels</p><p>Additional credits for the music used during the intro and outro:</p><ul><li><p>Remix Composition & Production - Gregory Mikels</p></li><li><p>Danse Sacrée composed by Claude Debussy </p></li><li><p>Public Domain</p></li><li><p>Performed by the United States Marine Chamber Orchestra with Major Jason K. Fettig, conducting, MSgt Karen Grimsey, harp soloist on Aug. 14, 2010, at the Rachel M. Schlesinger Concert Hall and Arts Center at Northern Virginia Community College in Alexandria, Virginia.</p></li></ul><ul><li><p>The Carnival of the Animals composed by Camille Saint-Saëns </p></li></ul><ul><li><p>License - <a href="https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/deed.en"><u>https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/deed.en</u></a> </p></li><li><p>Performers</p></li><ul><li><p>Pianos: Neil and Nancy O'Doan</p></li><li><p>Orchestra: Seattle Youth Symphony, conducted by Vilem Sokol.</p></li><li><p>Recorded 1980</p></li></ul></ul><p>Original music links:</p><ul><li><p><a href="https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Danse_Sacr%C3%A9e.ogg"><u>https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Danse_Sacr%C3%A9e.ogg</u></a> </p></li><li><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Camille_Saint-Sa%C3%ABns_-_The_Carnival_of_the_Animals.ogg"><u>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Camille_Saint-Sa%C3%ABns_-_The_Carnival_of_the_Animals.ogg</u></a> </p></li></ul><p><br></p>
July 10, 2026
<p>For this month's book club, we dive into the highly acclaimed novel Circe by Madeline Miller. It's arguably one of the *best* mythology retellings and a masterclass in beautiful characters, prose, and storytelling. We had so much fun chatting about this iconic witch, and it's perfect timing with the new Odyssey movie hitting theaters. </p><p>Light a candle, steep some herbs, and join us in the realm of the gods. </p><p>Let us know what you think in the comments, and as always, if you enjoyed this episode, please rate, review, and subscribe.</p><p>Prefer email? Sign up at moremagicpodcast.com to receive emails when new episodes release, updates on new projects, and special subscriber-only magic.</p><p>Credits:</p><p>Host: Demi Utley,<a href="https://demiutley.substack.com/"> <u>https://demiutley.substack.com/</u></a></p><p>Co-Host: A. J. Peterson, https://www.ajpeterson.com/ </p><p>— </p><p>Audio Production - Gregory Mikels</p><p>Additional credits for the music used during the intro and outro:</p><ul><li><p>Remix Composition & Production - Gregory Mikels</p></li><li><p>Danse Sacrée composed by Claude Debussy </p></li><li><p>Public Domain</p></li><li><p>Performed by the United States Marine Chamber Orchestra with Major Jason K. Fettig, conducting, MSgt Karen Grimsey, harp soloist on Aug. 14, 2010, at the Rachel M. Schlesinger Concert Hall and Arts Center at Northern Virginia Community College in Alexandria, Virginia.</p></li></ul><ul><li><p>The Carnival of the Animals composed by Camille Saint-Saëns </p></li></ul><ul><li><p>License - <a href="https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/deed.en"><u>https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/deed.en</u></a> </p></li><li><p>Performers</p></li><ul><li><p>Pianos: Neil and Nancy O'Doan</p></li><li><p>Orchestra: Seattle Youth Symphony, conducted by Vilem Sokol.</p></li><li><p>Recorded 1980</p></li></ul></ul><p>Original music links:</p><ul><li><p><a href="https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Danse_Sacr%C3%A9e.ogg"><u>https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Danse_Sacr%C3%A9e.ogg</u></a> </p></li><li><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Camille_Saint-Sa%C3%ABns_-_The_Carnival_of_the_Animals.ogg"><u>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Camille_Saint-Sa%C3%ABns_-_The_Carnival_of_the_Animals.ogg</u></a> </p></li></ul><p><br></p><p><br></p>
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Welcome to the More Magic Book Club, a podcast for fantasy readers dying to talk about the latest fantasy book you read.
Each month, we discuss a recent fantasy novel in detail so you know you’re not the only one who hated that character or wanted to move into that fantasy world (and you also don’t have to worry about exhausting your friends who just don’t get it).
This podcast is not spoiler-free. Listen at your own risk.
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