Most growing businesses don’t have a people problem. They have a leadership system problem. Welcome to More Than A Meeting, the podcast for CEOs, MDs, founders and senior leaders who know the real work starts at the top. Hosted by Les Murray, this show explores how senior leadership teams make decisions, hold each other to account, translate strategy into action and scale without everything depending on one person. Expect practical insight on SLT performance, leadership systems, accountability, decision-making, founder transition, strategy execution and building enterprise leadership teams that genuinely work. For leaders of growing businesses who want clarity, pace and collective ownership.
Some of the politest leadership teams are also the most political.
Psychological safety doesn't mean avoiding uncomfortable conversations. It means creating the conditions where disagreement, uncertainty and challenge can happen without damaging the relationships needed to solve the problem.
Les explores why strong teams use conflict to create clarity and why CEOs must pay close attention to how they respond when somebody challenges them.
Safety should make an SLT braver, not softer.
Keywords: psychological safety, leadership trust, constructive conflict, senior leadership teams, executive teamwork, leadership culture
#PsychologicalSafety #Leadership #Trust #SLT #HighPerformance
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12 Oct 2026
The Rhythm That Makes Strategy Move
Not every meeting should try to do everything.
Les explains how annual, quarterly, monthly, weekly and operational meetings can work together as one organisational rhythm.
You'll hear why every recurring meeting needs a specific purpose, how a good cadence reinforces strategy and accountability, and why meetings should be designed as part of the management system rather than treated as isolated calendar events.
What job is each meeting in your diary actually there to do?
Keywords: meeting cadence, leadership meetings, SLT meetings, strategy execution, operating rhythm, effective meetings
#Meetings #Leadership #SLT #StrategyExecution #BusinessSystems
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5 Oct 2026
The CEO Dependency Test
If the CEO disappeared for four weeks, what would slow down?
That question reveals an enormous amount about the scalability of a business.
Les explores how CEO dependency develops, why simply telling founders to delegate more doesn't solve it, and how clear authority, leadership capability and better decision architecture create genuine enterprise capacity.
A scalable company isn't one where the CEO becomes less important. It's one where leadership exists beyond the CEO.
Keywords: CEO dependency, founder to CEO, business scaling, delegation, senior leadership team, decision rights
#CEO #Founder #ScaleUp #LeadershipSystems #SeniorLeadershipTeam
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