Educational sound bytes to help MSPs and their clients navigate Cybersecurity and AI Governance. Cybersecurity maturity is a journey; don't go it alone. Interviews and guidance from fellow MSPs and other Industry experts.
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Chris Johnson | Cybersecurity Education & Security Guidance
Who Gave AI the Keys? Cybersecurity, Governance, Access, and Control in the Age of AI Agents
AI agents are quickly becoming part of everyday business operations, but many organizations are deploying them without the governance controls they need for human employees. In this episode, Brian Kelly, Founder of Automated Edge (https://automatededge.ai/), explores the risks of giving AI broad access to business systems, data, and credentials without adequate oversight.
With more than two decades in the MSP space, Brian explains why unrestricted AI access creates security, privacy, and accountability challenges most organizations still haven't addressed. The conversation examines practical approaches to AI governance, including private AI environments, orchestration layers, permission boundaries, and skills-based access controls that keep business intelligence under organizational control.
If you're helping businesses adopt AI, this discussion offers a timely look at how to balance innovation with governance, security, and trust.
13 Oct 2026
Your Biggest Cybersecurity Risk May Be Accounting
In this episode, Chris Johnson and Baxter Lanius of Alternative Payments (https://alternativepayments.io) explore the overlooked connection between payment security, PCI compliance, and financial resilience. Many ITSPs unknowingly increase their risk by storing payment information internally, creating compliance challenges and expanding their attack surface.
The discussion highlights how modern payment platforms can reduce risk, why billing discipline directly impacts profitability, and which financial controls can help protect business operations when accounts or credentials are compromised. Topics include ACH debit blockers, account segmentation, approval workflows, and other safeguards designed to protect both cash flow and client trust.
Whether you're focused on compliance, operations, or business growth, this episode offers practical guidance on securing one of your organization's most important assets: how you get paid.
6 Oct 2026
Why Your Security Stack Might Be Your Biggest Vulnerability
Why Threat Actors might love your security stack... Surprisingly, the most dangerous thing in your organization might be the security tools you're paying for but never configured. Chris Johnson and Zach Kromkowski revealed at CornCon26 that one organization purchased a tool and left it completely unimplemented for two years, creating a false sense of security while attackers exploited the gaps.
The core insight here is uncomfortable but important: most cybersecurity breaches stem from foundational failures that have existed for decades, not from sophisticated new attacks. Organizations keep chasing shiny new tools instead of mastering what they already own, spending money without solving actual problems. (It turns out "shiny object syndrome" is a real and costly habit in security teams.)
Buying tools without clear objectives doesn't just waste money; it actively expands your attack surface. Chris and Zach point out that even integrating platforms introduces new risks, especially when teams disable security rules to keep things running smoothly.
What does good governance actually look like under real pressure?
From realistic incident response tabletop exercises to weekly documentation reviews with a team of 15, Zach and Chris lay out a practical roadmap to move from reactive breach response to genuine operational maturity.
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