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The Center for a Stateless Society (C4SS.org) is an anarchist think-tank and media center. Its mission is to explain and defend the idea of vibrant social cooperation without aggression, oppression, or centralized authority. In particular, it seeks to enlarge public understanding and transform public perceptions of anarchism, while reshaping academic and movement debate, through the production and distribution of market anarchist media content, both scholarly and popular. It is also the home of Mutual Exchange Radio, a new podcast on anarchist thought, hosted by Zachary Woodman. The show brings together a wide variety of guests, from academics, to on-the-ground activists, to Center scholars, to entrepreneurs to discuss the latest developments in the philosophy and practice of market anarchism.

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May 16, 2026

Jason Lee Byas on Justice Beyond the State

<span id= "docs-internal-guid-d394ab8c-7fff-b226-aadb-1c089490617f" style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #000000; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"> The guest today is Jason Lee Byas. Byas is currently a Junior Faculty Fellow at the Georgetown Institute for the Study of Markets & Ethics, and starting this fall will be Assistant Professor of Philosophy & Political Economy at Tulane University, with a coappointment at the Murphy Institute. His research focuses on criminal punishment, reparations, and other forms of responding to wrongdoing, along with (as is our focus here) ways of thinking about justice beyond the state. Our conversation today focuses on some recent work Jason has done on the role of expressive values in criticisms of libertarianism, as well as an anarchistic conception of justice that avoids many of the problems conceptions of the connection between justice and agency common in analytic political philosophy have.

March 27, 2026

Aaron Ross Powell on Libertarianism and Buddhism

<span id= "docs-internal-guid-17282932-7fff-ccf3-37f7-f830ee1d93c7" style= "font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos; color: #000000; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"> Joining me today is Aaron Ross Powell. Aaron is currently the director of Liberal Projects at the Institute for Humane Studies where he is the chief editor of <a style= "text-decoration: none;" href= "https://www.liberalism.org/"><span style= "font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos; color: #467886; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: underline; -webkit-text-decoration-skip: none; text-decoration-skip-ink: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"> Liberalism.org</a> <span style= "font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos; color: #000000; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"> and host of the Liberalism.org podcast as well as <a style= "text-decoration: none;" href= "https://open.spotify.com/show/29wW6zsYyYuelcFJcyHOmv"><span style= "font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos; color: #467886; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: underline; -webkit-text-decoration-skip: none; text-decoration-skip-ink: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"> Reimagining Liberty</a><span style= "font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos; color: #000000; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">. I wanted to have Aaron on today to discuss two seemingly disparate intellectual interests of his: Buddhism and libertarianism. To many, these may seem like disparate and unrelated interests, or perhaps two intellectual traditions that are in deep tension with each other metaphysically. After all, libertarianism is often understood as relying on a strong conception of self-ownership, and Buddhism famously questions the very idea of selfhood to begin with. I wanted to sit down with Aaron to work through how he thinks of the relationship between Buddhist ethics and metaphysics, and the political project of human liberation, as well as the relationship between religious tolerance and liberal politics more generally.

February 26, 2026

Kevin Carson on the Methodenstreit

<span id= "docs-internal-guid-195706b0-7fff-4b73-a8da-a9ecc907b6bc" style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #000000; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"> Welcome to Mutual Exchange Radio, a project of the Center for a Stateless Society. I am your host, Zachary Woodman. Today's guest—for the third time on MER—is Kevin Carson. Kevin probably needs no introduction, but he is a senior fellow of the <a style="text-decoration: none;" href= "http://c4ss.org/"><span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #1155cc; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: underline; -webkit-text-decoration-skip: none; text-decoration-skip-ink: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"> Center for a Stateless Society</a> <span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #000000; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"> (c4ss.org) and holds the Center's <a style= "text-decoration: none;" href= "http://c4ss.org/content/10370"><span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #1155cc; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: underline; -webkit-text-decoration-skip: none; text-decoration-skip-ink: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"> Karl Hess Chair in Social Theory.</a> <span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #000000; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"> He is an anarchist without adjectives, heavily influenced by autonomism and the new municipalist movements. His written work includes <a style="text-decoration: none;" href= "https://store.c4ss.org/index.php/product/studies-in-mutualist-political-economy/"> <span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #1155cc; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: underline; -webkit-text-decoration-skip: none; text-decoration-skip-ink: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"> Studies in Mutualist Political Economy</a><span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #000000; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">, <a style="text-decoration: none;" href= "https://store.c4ss.org/index.php/product/organization-theory/"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #1155cc; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: underline; -webkit-text-decoration-skip: none; text-decoration-skip-ink: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"> Organization Theory: A Libertarian Perspective</a><span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #000000; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">, <a style="text-decoration: none;" href= "https://store.c4ss.org/index.php/product/the-homebrew-industrial-revolution/"> <span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #1155cc; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: underline; -webkit-text-decoration-skip: none; text-decoration-skip-ink: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"> The Homebrew Industrial Revolution: A Low-Overhead Manifesto</a><span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #000000; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">, and <a style="text-decoration: none;" href= "https://store.c4ss.org/index.php/product/the-desktop-regulatory-state/%E2%80%9D"> <span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #1155cc; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: underline; -webkit-text-decoration-skip: none; text-decoration-skip-ink: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"> The Desktop Regulatory State</a> <span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #000000; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"> all of which are freely available online. Carson has also written for such print publications as <span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #000000; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"> The Freeman: Ideas on Liberty <span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #000000; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"> and a variety of internet-based journals and blogs, including <span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #000000; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"> Just Things <span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #000000; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"> and <span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #000000; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"> The Art of the Possible, <span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #000000; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"> as well as his own blogs, <a style="text-decoration: none;" href="http://mutualist.blogspot.com/"><span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #1155cc; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: underline; -webkit-text-decoration-skip: none; text-decoration-skip-ink: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"> Mutualist Blog</a> <span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #000000; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"> and <a style="text-decoration: none;" href= "https://teaearlgreyhotblog.wordpress.com/%E2%80%9D"><span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #1155cc; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: underline; -webkit-text-decoration-skip: none; text-decoration-skip-ink: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"> Tea, Earl Grey, Hot</a><span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #000000; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">. Today, I Kevin is on to discuss his <a style= "text-decoration: none;" href= "https://c4ss.org/content/54432'"><span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #1155cc; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: underline; -webkit-text-decoration-skip: none; text-decoration-skip-ink: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"> 2021 study</a> <span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #000000; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"> on the Methodenstreit between economists from the Austrian school, such as Carl Menger, and economists from the German Historical School, such as Gustav Schmoller. We discuss Carson's views on the methodology of the social sciences in general and political economy in particular as well as his views on interest, landlordism, and the American Institutionalist school.

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What is Mutual Exchange Radio?: The Center for a Stateless Society (C4SS.org) is an anarchist think-tank and media center. Its mission is to explain and defend the idea of vibrant social cooperation without aggression, oppression, or centralized authority.

In particular, it seeks to enlarge public understanding and transform public perceptions of anarchism, while reshaping academic and movement debate, through the production and distribution of market anarchist media content, both scholarly and popular.

It is also the home of Mutual Exchange Radio, a new podcast on anarchist thought, hosted by Zachary Woodman. The show brings together a wide variety of guests, from academics, to on-the-ground activists, to Center scholars, to entrepreneurs to discuss the latest developments in the philosophy and practice of market anarchism.
How often does this podcast release new episodes?: This podcast updates weekly.
Where can I listen to this podcast?: This podcast is available on 10 platforms including Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and more. You can also use the RSS feed directly.
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