April 20, 2026
Ep820: Tony Martignetti – A Flattering Binder and $13,500 Down the Drain
<p><strong>BIO: </strong>Tony Martignetti is the evangelist for Planned Giving fundraising for small- and mid-size nonprofits.</p><p><strong>STORY:</strong> Two years into building his business, Tony convinced himself he could become the nation's thought leader on planned giving fundraising — not just for nonprofits, but for all Americans. He walked into a swanky Midtown Manhattan PR agency, got dazzled by a four-inch binder, and signed up at $6,750 per month. Two months and $13,500 later, his only return was a single bylined op-ed in a free subway newspaper.</p><p><strong>LEARNING:</strong> Check your ego. Vet your big ideas with honest, trusted people before spending any money. Understand that PR, even when it works, rarely converts to actual revenue.</p><p> </p><blockquote class="ql-align-center"><strong>"This was an ego investment. I did it for my vanity project. I got one placement in a giveaway newspaper on a federal holiday when nobody was in the subway. That was it." </strong></blockquote><blockquote class="ql-align-center">Tony Martignetti</blockquote><p> </p><h2>Guest profile</h2><p><strong><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/tonymartignetti/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tony Martignetti </a></strong>is the evangelist for <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/tonymartignetti/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Planned Giving fundraising</a> for small- and mid-size nonprofits. Connect with him on LinkedIn.</p><p>Check out Tony's free How-to Guide on <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/tonymartignetti/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Planned Giving Fundraising</a>.</p><h2>Worst investment ever</h2><p>Two years into running his consultancy, Tony had a big idea. He didn't just want to serve the nonprofit sector; he wanted to reach all Americans and make planned giving a concept that everyday citizens (not just charity insiders) would understand and act on.</p><p>To do that, Tony decided he needed PR, the kind that lands you on 60 Minutes and gets Charlie Rose calling.</p><p>He found his way to a prestigious agency in Midtown Manhattan, far from his own modest office in the Flatiron neighborhood. They had an 80-story skyscraper overhead to match. At the pitch meeting, they brought out what Tony describes as a four-inch-thick three-ring binder, every page in a plastic sleeve. Client on The Today Show. Client on Good Morning America. Client on 60 Minutes. Client with Charlie Rose.</p><p>All this sucked Tony in, and he bought it all—hook, line, and sinker. They kept feeding his ego. He signed on at $6,750 per month.</p><h3>What he got for $13,500</h3><p>After two months, Tony canceled the contract. His total return: one bylined op-ed in AM New York, a free newspaper distributed in New York City subway stations. The placement ran on Martin Luther King Day. A federal holiday when subway ridership was a fraction of normal on a Tuesday.</p><p>No leads from Good Morning America. No call from 60 Minutes. No magazine profiles. No newspaper reporters are following up. Nothing promising on the horizon. Just $13,500 lighter and one op-ed that almost nobody read.</p><h3>Why the agency let it happen</h3><p>The agency saw a solo entrepreneur with ideas far bigger than the media landscape could realistically support, and instead of managing Tony's expectations honestly, they kept stoking his enthusiasm to secure the fee. They should have talked him down to what's reasonable to expect. Instead, they completely mismanaged his expectations and kept feeding his ego to capture a fee.</p><p>The fundamental problem was that Tony's ambition—to educate ordinary Americans about the value of nonprofits, then about the value of supporting them long-term, then to direct them toward specific giving vehicles—was a multi-step awareness campaign that no single PR placement could accomplish. It was simply too much to ask of the media.</p><h3>The uncomfortable truth about PR and revenue</h3><p>Years after the failed agency experiment, Tony had better PR results. He hired a skilled freelance publicist who secured quotes for him in The New York Times, the Wall Street Journal, and the Chronicle of Philanthropy, the leading trade publication in his sector. Reporters on the nonprofit beat came to know him and called him when they needed a source.</p><p>And yet: not one new client ever picked up the phone because they saw Tony's name in the Times. This taught him a lesson: PR is more about reputation and awareness than revenue.</p><h2>Lessons learned</h2><ul><li>PR might get done right, and it still won't save you. It can build reputation and awareness over the years. It is not a customer acquisition channel.</li><li>For early-stage founders, the honest question to ask before writing a large check is: Is this actually going to build the business, or is this about making me feel like I've arrived?</li><li>Don't go check your idea with the people who are going to get a fee for capitalizing on your pie-in-the-sky idea. The people most likely to validate an idea are often the ones most financially motivated to tell you it's great. Lawyers, consultants, vendors, agencies—all have a stake in your enthusiasm. The honest input has to come from people with nothing to gain: trusted colleagues, mentors, or experienced friends who will tell you what they actually think.</li></ul><br/><h2>Andrew's takeaways</h2><ul><li><strong>Ego investments are a universal founder trap.</strong> Almost every entrepreneur who has started a business has made at least one purchase driven more by identity and aspiration than by clear ROI thinking. Naming it "a vanity investment" is the first step to catching it before it costs you.</li><li><strong>PR almost never converts to customers.</strong> This is one of the most consistent findings across hundreds of My Worst Investment Ever PR can build credibility and awareness over time. But it is not a sales channel, and expecting it to deliver clients, especially early in a business, is a setup for disappointment.</li><li><strong>The stage of business matters for marketing strategy.</strong> Early-stage businesses need direct, efficient client acquisition, not brand awareness campaigns aimed at broad audiences. Align your marketing spend with where you actually are, not where you imagine yourself to be.</li><li><strong>The media landscape has to be ready for your idea.</strong> Tony's vision of educating all Americans about planned giving required multiple layers of awareness-building before a single TV segment could have any effect. Even flawless PR execution couldn't shortcut that process.</li></ul><br/><h2>Actionable advice</h2><ul><li>Ask yourself: Is this a business investment or an ego investment? Before any significant marketing or PR spend, write down the specific customer acquisition outcome you expect. If you can't describe a clear path from the spend to a paying client, it's probably a vanity investment.</li><li>Match your marketing strategy to your business stage. In the first two to three years, most professional service firms grow through direct outreach, referrals, and relationship-building rather than mass media. Invest accordingly.</li><li>Understand what PR actually does. PR builds reputation and credibility over the long term. If that's your goal, it can be worth it. If your goal is revenue next quarter, look elsewhere.</li><li>If you're going to do PR, set explicit expectations in writing. What placements will they pursue? In what timeframe? What counts as success? If the agency won't commit to specifics, that tells you something important.</li></ul><br/><h2>No. 1 goal for the next 12 months</h2><p>Tony's number one goal for the next 12 months is to publish his first self-published book: Planned Giving Accelerated, due out in September. A companion course will follow the book's release.</p><h2>Parting words</h2><p> </p><blockquote class="ql-align-center"><strong>"Thank you very much, Andrew. This was great, great fun. It's very different than what I've done."</strong></blockquote><blockquote class="ql-align-center">Tony Martignetti</blockquote><p> </p><p>[spp-transcript]</p><p> </p><h3><strong>Connect with Tony Martignetti</strong></h3><ul><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/tonymartignetti/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a></li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@realTonyMartignetti" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">YouTube</a></li><li><a href="https://tonymartignetti.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Podcast</a></li></ul><br/><h3><strong>Andrew’s books</strong></h3><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3qrfHjX" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">How to Start Building Your Wealth Investing in the Stock Market</a></li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/2PDApAo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">My Worst Investment Ever</a></li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3v6ip1Y" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">9 Valuation Mistakes and How to Avoid Them</a></li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/3emBO8M" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Transform Your Business with Dr.Deming’s 14 Points</a></li></ul><br/><h3><strong>Andrew’s online programs</strong></h3><ul><li><a href="https://valuationmasterclass.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Valuation Master Class</a></li><li><a href="https://astotz.kartra.com/page/become-a-better-investor-community" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Become a Better Investor Community</a></li><li><a href="https://academy.astotz.com/courses/how-to-start-building-your-wealth-investing-in-the-stock-market" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">How to Start Building Your Wealth Investing in the Stock Market</a></li><li><a href="https://academy.astotz.com/courses/finance-made-ridiculously-simple"...
