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Natural Capital Value Conversations

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Natural Capital Value Conversations by B2 Natural Capital is a thought-provoking podcast exploring the intersection of nature, economics, and sustainable business. Each episode features insightful conversations with industry leaders, environmental experts, and innovators who are redefining how we measure, protect, and invest in the world’s natural resources. From biodiversity and ecosystem services to regenerative practices and impact investing, this podcast dives into the real value of natural capital and why it matters now more than ever.

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June 17, 2026

The Billion-Dollar Automation Shift: Optimizing Thickener Performance with James Jenkinson

Did you know that thickeners are often labeled the most boring equipment in a processing plant? Because they sit at the very end of the line, they are frequently neglected until a major underflow problem shuts down the entire operation. In this special episode, B-Squared partners Ben Murphy and Benjamin Cox welcome their guest, James Jenkinson from Task Automation, to challenge the mining industry to start treating these massive settling devices like the multi-million-dollar water recovery tools they truly are.From a staggering $26.75 per cubic meter water disposal license fee to the reality of 12-to-24-hour deferred operational decision lags, James lays out the ultimate value case for thickener automation. If you want to find out how a simple couple-percent density improvement can yield a massive net present value shift for an investment of just a few hundred thousand dollars, this deep dive is for you.MAIN TOPICS COVERED:<ul> <li>The New Reality of Water Costs: Looking at extreme modern water management liabilities, including a real-world case of $26.75 per cubic meter.</li> <li>De-jargonizing the Thickener: How this critical piece of machinery separates solids and recycles water, and why it acts like a sensitive, slow-moving sourdough starter.</li> <li>The 12-Hour Lag Problem: Why humans struggle to manage deferred operational decisions and how automated control systems bridge the gap.</li> <li>The Drunken Thickener: The hidden cost of wide-ranging fluctuations (from 42% to 56% density) and how it affects downstream tailings stability.</li> <li>What on Earth is Rheology? Understanding fluid dynamics so your slurry flows perfectly to the embankment without destroying your pumping system or pipe network.</li> <li>The EPCM Handover Gap: Why great industrial design concepts frequently fall down during plant commissioning and how fractional operational ownership fixes it.</li> <li>Value Case vs. Cost Case: Why traditional accounting fails to upgrade thickeners because it treats water as "free" rather than pricing environmental risk and asset liability.</li></ul>KEY TAKEAWAYS:<ul> <li>Incredible ROI: Automated control upgrades typically cost a few hundred thousand dollars but routinely boast an Internal Rate of Return (IRR) north of 500%.</li> <li>Rapid Payback Windows: In heavily optimized business cases, engineering and technology upgrades pay for themselves in less than 30 days, while the business case itself clears cost in under 3 days.</li> <li>Massive Volumetric Savings: For a 100,000 ton per day concentrator, pulling an extra 2% of solids out of the underflow saves up to 2 to 3 million cubic meters of water every single year.</li> <li>Upstream Focus for Downstream Wins: Stabilizing your water balances in the plant avoids sending metal-enriched water out to the dam, keeping toxins tightly locked in the mill loop.</li></ul>CONNECT WITH THE TEAM:<ul> <li>James Jenkinson: taskautomation.com</li> <li>Benjamin Cox: Search for Benjamin Cox Ormsby</li> <li>Ben Murphy: Search for Ben Murphy Process Engineering</li> <li>Follow the Conversation: Search for B-Squared Natural Capital</li> <li>Websites: b2naturalcapital.com | ormsbyandco.com</li></ul>CALL TO ACTION: Don't be a stranger! If you have questions about engineering metrics, rheology blockers, or why Benjamin had to shave his beard for a health and safety fit test, reach out to us.FOLLOW, LIKE, and SHARE this episode to help us grow the conversation. Have a suggestion for a guest or a specific piece of natural capital we should grill? Message us directly!

June 3, 2026

The Boring Machine Worth Billions: Optimizing Your Mine's Water with B-Squared

Did you know that thickeners are often labeled the most boring equipment in a processing plant? Because they sit at the very end of the line, they are frequently neglected until a major problem shuts down the entire operation. In this episode, B-Squared partners Ben Murphy and Benjamin Cox challenge the mining industry to stop ignoring these massive settling devices and start treating them like the multi-million-dollar water recovery tools they truly are.From a staggering $26.75 per cubic meter water disposal license fee to the reality of 12-to-24-hour deferred operational decision lags, Ben and Benjamin lay out the ultimate value case for thickener optimization. If you want to find out how a simple couple-percent density improvement in your underflow can yield a massive billion-dollar NPV shift for an investment of just a few hundred thousand dollars, this deep dive into the "sourdough starter" of the mining plant is for you.MAIN TOPICS COVERED:<ul> <li>The New Reality of Water Costs: Looking at extreme modern water management liabilities, including a real-world case of $26.75 per cubic meter.</li> <li>De-jargonizing the Thickener: How this critical piece of machinery separates solids and recycles water, and why it acts like a sensitive, slow-moving sourdough starter.</li> <li>The 12-Hour Lag Problem: Why humans struggle to manage deferred operational decisions and how automated control systems bridge the gap.</li> <li>The Drunken Thickener: The hidden cost of wide-ranging fluctuations (from 42% to 56% density) and how it affects downstream tailings stability.</li> <li>The Global Density Divide: A breakdown of why well-run operations in countries like Australia consistently hit 62% underflow density, while others lag far behind.</li> <li>What on Earth is Rheology? Understanding fluid dynamics so your slurry flows perfectly to the embankment without destroying your pumping system or pipe network.</li> <li>Value Case vs. Cost Case: Why traditional accounting fails to upgrade thickeners because it treats water as "free" rather than pricing environmental risk and structural recovery.</li></ul>KEY TAKEAWAYS:<ul> <li>Incredible ROI: Automated control upgrades typically cost a few hundred thousand dollars but routinely boast an Internal Rate of Return (IRR) north of 500%.</li> <li>Rapid Payback Windows: In heavily optimized business cases, engineering and technology upgrades pay for themselves in less than 12 days, while the business case itself pays off in under 3 days.</li> <li>Massive Volumetric Savings: For a 100,000 ton per day concentrator, pulling an extra 2% of solids out of the underflow saves up to 2 to 3 million cubic meters of water every single year.</li> <li>Upstream Focus for Downstream Wins: Stabilizing your water balances in the plant avoids sending metal-enriched water out to the dam, keeping toxins tightly locked in the mill loop.</li></ul>CONNECT WITH THE B-SQUARED TEAM:<ul> <li>Benjamin Cox: Search for Benjamin Cox Ormsby</li> <li>Ben Murphy: Search for Ben Murphy Process Engineering</li> <li>Follow the Conversation: Search for B-Squared Natural Capital</li> <li>Websites: b2naturalcapital.com | ormsbyandco.com</li></ul>CALL TO ACTION: Don't be a stranger! If you have questions about engineering metrics, rheology blockers, or why Benjamin had to shave his beard for a health and safety fit test, reach out to us.FOLLOW, LIKE, and SHARE this episode to help us grow the conversation. Have a suggestion for a guest or a specific piece of natural capital we should grill? Message us directly!

May 20, 2026

Building Sustainable Brands in Mining: Marketing as Natural Capital with Peggy Bell

Is your marketing strategy a depleting asset or a sustainable resource? In this high-energy episode, B-Squared partners Ben Murphy and Benjamin Cox welcome their first-ever guest, Peggy Bell (Principal of Mine Like a Woman). The trio dives into the "Natural Capital" of social media, debating the long-game of LinkedIn vs. the authentic depth of Substack. Whether you are a "quiet lurker" or a technical founder looking for a fractional CMO, this episode breaks down why professional reputation is a "first-to-be-third-basis" game and why mining companies must stop trying to sell technical equipment on Instagram and start attracting the next generation through meaningful brand stories. MAIN TOPICS COVERED: * The "First-to-be-Third" Rule: Why no one makes a business decision until the third interaction.* LinkedIn vs. The World: Benjamin’s strategy vs. Peggy’s push for multi-platform authenticity.* The Substack Revolution: Why long-form, thoughtful content is the new frontier for thought leadership.* Marketing vs. Sales: Understanding that marketing is the long-term strategy while sales is the "right now."* Authenticity in the AI Age: How to tell the difference between human-written insight and performative noise.* B2B Strategy for Mining: Where to sell technical assets vs. where to attract talent and engage with the community.* The Wash, Rinse, Repeat Cycle: Why consistency is the #1 reason for marketing success. KEY TAKEAWAYS: * The 50x5 Rule: If you can get 5 people in a room 50 times a year, any business will succeed within three years.* Long-Term Commitment: Brand building is an 18-month to 2-year runway. Sustainability takes time.* Repurpose with Purpose: One interview can become 10 pieces of content, but the tone must be tailored to the platform.* Don't Ignore the "Lurkers": High-value clients often watch from the sidelines without ever clicking "like."* Social Media is a Tool: A wholesome strategy includes conferences, websites, and search optimization. CONNECT WITH THE GUEST (PEGGY BELL):Peggy Bell: minelikeawoman.com CONNECT WITH THE B-SQUARED TEAM:Benjamin Cox: Search for Benjamin Cox OrmsbyBen Murphy: Search for Ben Murphy Process EngineeringFollow the Conversation: Search for B-Squared Natural CapitalWebsites: b2naturalcapital.com | ormsbyandco.com CALL TO ACTION:Don't be a stranger! If you have questions about branding your technical business or the Mine Like a Woman initiative, reach out to us. FOLLOW, LIKE, and SHARE this episode to help us grow the conversation.Have a suggestion for a guest or a topic we should grill? Message us directly!

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What is Natural Capital Value Conversations?: Natural Capital Value Conversations by B2 Natural Capital is a thought-provoking podcast exploring the intersection of nature, economics, and sustainable business. Each episode features insightful conversations with industry leaders, environmental experts, and innovators who are redefining how we measure, protect, and invest in the world’s natural resources.

From biodiversity and ecosystem services to regenerative practices and impact investing, this podcast dives into the real value of natural capital and why it matters now more than ever.
How often does this podcast release new episodes?: This podcast updates daily.
Where can I listen to this podcast?: This podcast is available on 4 platforms including Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and more. You can also use the RSS feed directly.
Does this podcast accept guests?: Yes, this podcast regularly features guests.

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