Learn and discover network automation tooling with Steinn & Urs
Network Automagic
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Learn and discover network automation tooling with Steinn & Urs
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Recent Episodes
April 26, 2026
NA010 - The future of Platform Engineering with Stuart Clark
<p>NA010 - The Future of Platform Engineering with Stuart Clark</p><p><br></p><p>Hairdresser to CCIE Automation. Cisco DevNet to AWS to Spotify. Stuart Clark joins Steinn and Urs for a wide-ranging conversation on internal developer portals, AI in production, and what 8 years across DevRel actually taught him about driving revenue instead of vanity metrics.</p><p><br></p><p>The conversation digs into Spotify's Backstage and the new Portal SaaS offering, why IDPs become a "voice to chaos" the moment AI agents start checking in code, what really happened to Cisco DevNet after the leadership changes, and Stuart's signature Ford RS Turbo metaphor for organizations bolting on horsepower without ever upgrading their brakes.</p><p><br></p><p>Plus: Claude Code knocking 221 broken links to zero in an hour, the AI mania trap and why Stuart signs out of work apps after 6pm, the conference-room reality that 99% of devs use AI but only 2% run it in production, and Stuart's closing hot take on not letting your job define you.</p><p><br></p><p>What we cover:</p><p>• Stuart's hairdresser-to-CCIE-Automation career arc</p><p>• What happened to Cisco DevNet after Susie Wee and Mandy Whaley left</p><p>• Working faster, not harder, with AI assistants</p><p>• Setting boundaries in the always-on AI era</p><p>• DevRel as revenue pipeline, not vanity metrics</p><p>• Spotify's Backstage and the Portal SaaS offering</p><p>• Why IDPs are a "voice to chaos" once AI agents are committing code</p><p>• Skills files, golden paths, and CI/CD</p><p>• The 99/2 gap between AI use and AI in production</p><p>• The Ford RS Turbo brakes metaphor for platform engineering</p><p>• Why a strong fundamentals CCIE still beats chasing every shiny thing</p><p>• Why AI companies still ask candidates to write Python by hand</p><p><br></p><p>Guest:</p><p>Stuart Clark, Senior Developer Advocate at Spotify — linkedin.com/in/stuarteclark</p><p><br></p><p>Hosted by Steinn "Steinzi" Bjarnarson and Urs Baumann.</p><p><br></p><p>Subscribe and follow:</p><p>YouTube: youtube.com/@networkautomagic</p><p>Spotify: Network AutoMagic</p><p>Apple Podcasts: Network AutoMagic</p><p><br></p><p>#networkautomation #networkautomagic #platformengineering #backstage #spotify #devnet #ai #devrel #podcast</p><p><br></p>
April 3, 2026
NA009 - The Square Table — AI, Hype, and the Future of Network Engineering
<p>Seven network automation engineers. One table. Zero filter. In our first-ever roundtable episode, Steinn and Urs are joined by Marco Martinez (Swisscom), Bart Dorlandt (Dream Networking), John Howard (ProtonMail), Joseph Nicholson (NTT DATA), Mark Prosser (Nokia), William Collins(Itential), and Ryan Shaw for an unfiltered conversation about AI's real impact on network engineering. The panel digs into what AI has actually changed day-to-day, whether the "force multiplier" framing holds up, the danger of vibe coding without validation, AI mandates from management who read one LinkedIn post, knowledge atrophy vs getting dumber, why critical thinking is the meta-skill of the AI era, and whether code quality is a moral virtue or just a pricing tier. Expect sharp disagreements on OSPF vs IS-IS, a 1910 engineering quote that predicted all of this, and Marco's call to action: if AI makes you 30% faster, invest that time in quality — not just more output. What we cover:• AI as a force multiplier — the xkcd ROI chart has been rewritten• The cognitive shift from code generation to code verification• AI mandates and the unhealthy pressure of inflated expectations• Are we getting dumber or just shifting context?• Vibe coding, neural fatigue, and the ownership problem• Code quality as a pricing tier — script vs service• Critical thinking in the age of information overload• The next generation of engineers and how they learn differently Guest LinkedIn profiles:Marco Martinez — linkedin.com/in/marcom4rtinezBart Dorlandt — linkedin.com/in/bartdorlandtJohn Howard — linkedin.com/in/jonnyhowardJoseph Nicholson — linkedin.com/in/joseph-nicholson-b8413533aMark Prosser — linkedin.com/in/mark-prosserWilliam Collins — linkedin.com/in/william-collinsRyan Shaw — linkedin.com/in/ryan-shaw-3a474169 Hosted by Steinn "Steinzi" Bjarnarson and Urs Baumann. Subscribe and follow:YouTube: youtube.com/@networkautomagicSpotify: Network AutoMagicApple Podcasts: Network AutoMagic #networkautomation #networkautomagic #ai #networkengineering #automation #podcast</p>
March 27, 2026
NA008 - AI and Automation MCP vs CLI with Calvin Remsburg
<p>Steinn and Urs are joined by Calvin Remsburg — network engineer turned AI security specialist at Palo Alto Networks, formerly at Juniper — to break down the MCP vs CLI debate for AI agents, why deterministic tooling is beating probabilistic tool invocation, and what network engineers should be doing right now to stay ahead.</p>
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