Never Too Far Gone
Claim This Podcastby Heather Cetrangolo
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<div> <p>The word “leadership” has become tired.</p> <p><br />It’s been gentrified—repackaged as a job description, overselling its glamour whilst underselling its beauty.</p> <p>Real leaders don’t chase titles. They stay in the hard places, where there’s pushback and limited resources. They endure the subtle and overt ridicule that comes with believing things can be different.</p> <p>My podcast is for the weird and wonderful ones—the people who keep believing and keep building, even when the system seems designed to make them fail.</p> <p>If that’s you, let’s be friends. Because the biggest threat to people like us is isolation. The second is never having the skills involved in rebuilding from the ground up taught to us, studied or recognised.</p> <p>That’s why I created <strong>The Academy of Systemic Renewal</strong>: a place that champions the science of what we do.</p> <p>http://systemicrenewal.com</p> </div>
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Recent Episodes
October 6, 2025
Why You Probably Don't Need The Big Guy
Sometimes the smallest, messiest, most depleted organisation still has more life in it than you might think. In this episode Heather shares why she believes that external partners might offer quicker solutions, but it is almost always a false economy. She unpacks why she has chosen to focus her life on renewing long-established systems from within, assisting them to develop their own in-house solutions. Heather shares insights from Maria Mazzucato and Rosie Collington's research at UCL, into why an over-dependence on external advice creates a fear-driven economy in which actors lose the skill of learning.
October 6, 2025
Who Could Ever Learn to Love a Beast?
In this episode Heather explains what a 'Renewalist' is and why it is a different style of leadership to two more readily recognised categories, being management and advocacy. Heather explains from the example of Beauty and the Beast, how Renewalists are people who humanise systems by stepping into them fully. The episode ends with a time for reflection about whether you are "all in" to lead the community you stand within, or whether you feel one-toe-out.
October 6, 2025
Planning for the Unplanned
In this quick Learning Byte, Heather shares about the importance of planning for the unplanned, or making space for what John Paul Lederach describes as "Serendipity." Heather shares an example of serendipitous discoveries that have been taking place for her at Holy Trinity in Port Melbourne. This episode finishes with an exercise in observing the unplanned experiences and opportunities that may be nudging you in an unexpected direction.
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- What is Never Too Far Gone?
<div> <p>The word “leadership” has become tired.</p> <p><br />It’s been gentrified—repackaged as a job description, overselling its glamour whilst underselling its beauty.</p> <p>Real leaders don’t chase titles. They stay in the hard places, where there’s pushback and limited resources. They endure the subtle and overt ridicule that comes with believing things can be different.</p> <p>My podcast is for the weird and wonderful ones—the people who keep believing and keep building, even when the system seems designed to make them fail.</p> <p>If that’s you, let’s be friends. Because the biggest threat to people like us is isolation. The second is never having the skills involved in rebuilding from the ground up taught to us, studied or recognised.</p> <p>That’s why I created <strong>The Academy of Systemic Renewal</strong>: a place that champions the science of what we do.</p> <p>http://systemicrenewal.com</p> </div> - How often does this podcast release new episodes?
This podcast updates bi-weekly.
- Where can I listen to this podcast?
This podcast is available on 6 platforms including Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and more. You can also use the RSS feed directly.
- Does this podcast accept guests?
No, this podcast does not typically feature guests.
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