Never Too Far Gone

About Never Too Far Gone

The word “leadership” has become tired. It’s been gentrified—repackaged as a job description, overselling its glamour whilst underselling its beauty. Real leaders don’t chase titles. They stay in the hard places, where there’s pushback and limited resources. They endure the subtle and overt ridicule that comes with believing things can be different. My podcast is for the weird and wonderful ones—the people who keep believing and keep building, even when the system seems designed to make them fail. If that’s you, let’s be friends, because the biggest threat to people like us is isolation. The second is never having the skills involved in rebuilding from the ground up taught to us, studied or recognised. That’s why I created The Francis Seminary: a place for rebuilding the local church and the depleted social sector. http://francisseminary.com

Publisher

Heather Cetrangolo

Category

business

Language

en

Explicit

No

First episode

23 Nov 2023

Latest episode

6 Oct 2025

Latest episodes

37 episodes in the feed.

1. 

   6 Oct 2025

   Why You Probably Don't Need The Big Guy

   Sometimes the smallest, messiest, most depleted organisation still has more life in it than you might think. In this episode Heather shares why she believes that external partners might offer quicker solutions, but it is almost always a false economy. She unpacks why she has chosen to focus her life on renewing long-established systems from within, assisting them to develop their own in-house solutions. Heather shares insights from Maria Mazzucato and Rosie Collington's research at UCL, into why an over-dependence on external advice creates a fear-driven economy in which actors lose the skill of learning.

2. 

   6 Oct 2025

   Who Could Ever Learn to Love a Beast?

   In this episode Heather explains what a 'Renewalist' is and why it is a different style of leadership to two more readily recognised categories, being management and advocacy. Heather explains from the example of Beauty and the Beast, how Renewalists are people who humanise systems by stepping into them fully. The episode ends with a time for reflection about whether you are "all in" to lead the community you stand within, or whether you feel one-toe-out.

3. 

   6 Oct 2025

   Planning for the Unplanned

   In this quick Learning Byte, Heather shares about the importance of planning for the unplanned, or making space for what John Paul Lederach describes as "Serendipity." Heather shares an example of serendipitous discoveries that have been taking place for her at Holy Trinity in Port Melbourne. This episode finishes with an exercise in observing the unplanned experiences and opportunities that may be nudging you in an unexpected direction.

Reach and audience

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Spotify

5.0 / 5

3 ratings

Podcast Authority Score: 23 / 100

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Quality

22

Social presence

0

YouTube

0

Engagement

60

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