New Kinship

About New Kinship

Welcome to New Kinship, where we are exploring and renewing ideas of belonging, desire, and being a neighbor in the Kingdom of Jesus. Together we are pursuing the communion and shalom of the church and the world. Pull up a chair and join the conversation! newkinship.substack.com (https://newkinship.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast)

Publisher

David Frank and TJ Espinoza

Category

religion & spirituality · society & culture

Language

en

Explicit

No

First episode

29 Jun 2021

Latest episode

21 Oct 2026

Latest episodes

112 episodes in the feed.

1. 

   21 Oct 2026

   #89 - From Queer to… Queer Ally: Joelle’s Story

   Our friend Joelle joined David and Tyler this week to talk about her unexpected journey from identifying as bisexual and spending time in queer (and Christian) spaces to experiencing what she describes as the disappearance of her same-sex attraction while exploring Eastern Orthodox Christianity. They talk about social media and dating apps, attraction and lust, marriage, and how Joelle’s relationship to Pride and the queer community continues to change. Note: This episode uses the terms “Side A” and “Side B” (and X, Y) as shorthand. If you’re new to the conversation, you might find it helpful to check out episode #3, where we talk through the four “sides”: ⁠#3 - A-B-Y-X | 4 Sides on SSA/Gay Sexuality⁠ (https://newkinship.substack.com/p/3-a-b-y-x-4-sides-on-ssagay-sexuality-69e) — ★ Timestamps (00:00) #89 - From Queer to… Queer Ally: Joelle’s Story (01:07) Joelle’s initial summary to David (03:54) Growing up evangelical, finding women on dating apps (12:21) Finding queer TikTok, coming out: “I think I’m bisexual” (17:54) Recent encounters with faith and queer sexuality (27:35) Where do you feel attraction in your body? Lust vs. attraction (31:50) The nature of attraction (to my husband, to others) (42:29) Is there a need for Pride? (Joelle’s straight coming out) — ★ Send us feedback, questions, comments, or support || Email: communionandshalom@gmail.com (mailto:communionandshalom@gmail.com) | Instagram: @newkinship (https://www.instagram.com/newkinship) | Substack: @newkinship (https://newkinship.substack.com/) — ★ Credits || Creators and Hosts: David Frank, TJ Espinoza, Tyler Parker | Audio Engineer: Carl Swenson (on Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/artist/5vUIbo2G0slndNGl6FP8yV?si=fFaXz_CQS3SPe8DfWq62_g)) | Podcast Manager: Elena F. ★ Get full access to New Kinship at newkinship.substack.com/subscribe (https://newkinship.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_4)

2. 

   30 Sept 2026

   #88 - “When Your Kid Comes Out to You” 101, with Laurie Krieg

   Laurie Krieg joins David, TJ, and Tyler for a practical conversation about how parents can respond when their child comes out as gay or trans. Drawing from her own story and work with parents navigating these moments, Laurie explores the fear and shame that can shape these moments and offers instead a posture of curiosity, listening, emotional steadiness, and continued conversation. We’re grateful for the way Laurie brings a lot of warmth and hard-won wisdom to the conversation. Note: This episode uses the terms “Side A” and “Side B” (and X, Y) as shorthand quite a bit. If you’re new to the conversation, you might find it helpful to check out episode #3, where we talk through the four “sides”: ⁠#3 - A-B-Y-X | 4 Sides on SSA/Gay Sexuality⁠ (https://newkinship.substack.com/p/3-a-b-y-x-4-sides-on-ssagay-sexuality-69e) ★ About Our Guest Laurie Krieg is the Director of Parenting & Discipleship at The Center for Faith, Sexuality, and Gender (https://centerforfaith.com/). Laurie has a master’s degree in evangelism and leadership from Wheaton Graduate School. She and her husband, Matt, co-host the Hole in My Heart Podcast (https://lauriekrieg.com/podcast/), co-authored An Impossible Marriage (IVP 2020), and Raising Wise Kids in a Sexually Broken World (https://www.ivpress.com/raising-wise-kids-in-a-sexually-broken-world) (IVP 2026). Laurie and Matt live in West Michigan with their three kids. — ★ Timestamps (00:00) #88 - “When Your Kid Comes Out to You” 101, with Laurie Krieg (02:45) Laurie’s story: Faith and sexuality in conservative evangelical America (06:45) We’re seeing shifts in how (religious) parents and kids approach same-sex attraction (09:44) POV: When your kid comes out to you... (12:39) Our cultural moment: Sexuality, gender, and school education (15:51) Resources for panicking parents (23:48) What if your child HAS been pursuing same-sex relationships? (30:14) What about coming out re: pronouns and gender identities? (37:28) When your child’s life looks different than you thought... (50:20) How to contact the CenterforFaith.com (http://centerforfaith.com/) — ★ Send feedback, questions, comments, support || Email: communionandshalom@gmail.com (mailto:communionandshalom@gmail.com) | Instagram: @newkinship (https://www.instagram.com/newkinship) | Substack: @newkinship (https://newkinship.substack.com/) — ★ Credits || Creators and Hosts: David Frank, TJ Espinoza, Tyler Parker | Audio Engineer: Carl Swenson (on Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/artist/5vUIbo2G0slndNGl6FP8yV?si=fFaXz_CQS3SPe8DfWq62_g)) | Podcast Manager: Elena F. | Graphic Designer: Aogu Fujihashi ★ Get full access to New Kinship at newkinship.substack.com/subscribe (https://newkinship.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_4)

3. 

   21 Sept 2026

   Kinship Lab #07 - Exploring Covenant and Side B Community Boundaries (Part 2)

   This is Part 2 from our conversation in August, so if you haven’t listened to that yet, you may want to start there. We finish our conversation about whether Side B should function more as a discernment toolkit or a confessional movement. We also explore how boundaries relate to creation and freedom (Genesis, Galatians 5), the risks of reductionism or wrongly drawn lines, and areas needing ongoing discernment. Timestamps:00:00 Kinship Lab #7 (Part 2)11:25 Truth Claims and Fruit15:57 Boundaries and Holy World-building28:58 Ambiguity and Discernment Zones45:48 Leadership Lines and Farewell Are boundaries inevitable? Can they enable “holy world-building”? Let us know your thoughts! This podcast exists from the generous support from our listeners. If you would like to join the New Kin WhatsApp group to connect with us more and help keep all of our content available for free, then please sign up to support with any size regular gift through Substack—ever dollar is really helpful in helping us continue to build this work. Get full access to New Kinship at newkinship.substack.com/subscribe (https://newkinship.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_4)

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