New Rules for Work Labs

About New Rules for Work Labs

Conversations with the world's leading experts on the shifting landscape of leadership, creativity, and collaboration. We explore the trends, tech, and research reshaping the world of work and make practical guides to help leaders stay ahead of the curve. Hosted by David Mastronardi and Elise Keith

Publisher

New Rules for Work

Category

business

Language

en

Explicit

No

First episode

16 Nov 2023

Latest episode

22 Jan 2025

Latest episodes

13 episodes in the feed.

1. 

   22 Jan 2025

   From Dusty Binders to Living Operational Guidance with Laurel Farrer

   Join remote work expert Laurel Farrer for an insider's guide to transforming outdated employee handbooks into modern operational documentation. Learn how established companies can build living knowledge systems that work for everyone - from the warehouse floor to the C-suite. Perfect for leaders looking to modernize their documentation culture and empower teams to work effectively from anywhere.If you're ready to move beyond dusty policy binders but unsure where to start, this interview is yo...

2. 

   30 May 2024

   Future-Tweaking Our Approach to Team Agreements

   The final episode in a four-part series.  In this episode, we hear from six pioneering experts about how our approach to team agreements needs to evolve to keep pace with changes in the workplace. Episode Resources YouTube (https://youtu.be/g739rsUFEoE) Part 1 (https://www.buzzsprout.com/2276362/episodes/14905887): What Team Agreements Are and When We Need Them Part 2 (https://www.buzzsprout.com/2276362/episodes/14999813): What Works & What Doesn't Part 3 (https://www.buzzsprout.com/2276362/episodes/15036310): Proper Care & Feeding Our Guests: Bud Caddell, Founder & CEO at Nobl (https://nobl.io/) (LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/budcaddell/)) Gustavo Razetti, Founder & CEO at Fearless Culture (https://www.fearlessculture.design/) (LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/gustavorazzetti/)) Gwen Stirling Wilkie, Founder & CEO at Seeds of Transformation, Omni-Working (https://omni-working.com/) (LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/gwen-stirling-wilkie-%F0%9F%8C%90-flexpert-strategist-6171356/)) Jim Benson, Founder & CEO at Modus Institute (https://modusinstitute.com/) (LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimbenson/)) Lisette Sutherland, Founder & CEO at Collaboration Superpowers (https://www.collaborationsuperpowers.com/) (LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/lisettesutherland/)) Mark Kilby, Founder K5 Labs and Differability (https://differability.works/) (LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/mkilby/)) To learn more about this podcat, visit: Labs.newrulesforwork.com (https://labs.newrulesforwork.com/)

3. 

   8 May 2024

   Future-Fit Team Agreements 3: Proper Care and Feeding

   Episode 3 of a four-part series.  In this episode, we hear from seven pioneering experts about where to publish new agreements, how to keep them fresh, and some of the unexpected changes you might see as teams embrace new ways of working. Episode Resources YouTube (https://youtu.be/QUa4c2h0OtY) Part 1 (https://www.buzzsprout.com/2276362/episodes/14905887): What Team Agreements Are and When We Need Them Part 2 (https://www.buzzsprout.com/2276362/episodes/14999813): What Works & What Doesn't Our Guests: Bud Caddell, Founder & CEO at Nobl (https://nobl.io/) (LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/budcaddell/)) Chase Warrington, Head of Operations at Doist (https://doist.com/) (LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/chase-warrington/)) Gustavo Razetti, Founder & CEO at Fearless Culture (https://www.fearlessculture.design/) (LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/gustavorazzetti/)) Gwen Stirling Wilkie, Founder & CEO at Seeds of Transformation, Omni-Working (https://omni-working.com/) (LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/gwen-stirling-wilkie-%F0%9F%8C%90-flexpert-strategist-6171356/)) Jim Benson, Founder & CEO at Modus Institute (https://modusinstitute.com/) (LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimbenson/)) Lisette Sutherland, Founder & CEO at Collaboration Superpowers (https://www.collaborationsuperpowers.com/) (LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/lisettesutherland/)) Mark Kilby, Founder K5 Labs and Differability (https://differability.works/) (LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/mkilby/)) To learn more about this podcat, visit: Labs.newrulesforwork.com (https://labs.newrulesforwork.com/)

4. 

   2 May 2024

   Future-Fit Team Agreements 2: What Works & What Doesn't

   Episode 2 of a four-part series.  In this episode, we hear from seven pioneering experts about the specific agreements they find most helpful, some that rarely work, and a few common traps teams encounter after creating their first team agreement. Episode Resources YouTube (https://youtu.be/hv5FQOhlMxg) Part 1 (https://www.buzzsprout.com/2276362/episodes/14905887) Our Guests: Bud Caddell, Founder & CEO at Nobl (https://nobl.io) (LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/budcaddell/)) Chase Warrington, Head of Operations at Doist (https://doist.com/) (LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/chase-warrington/)) Gustavo Razetti, Founder & CEO at Fearless Culture (https://www.fearlessculture.design) (LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/gustavorazzetti/)) Gwen Stirling Wilkie, Founder & CEO at Seeds of Transformation, Omni-Working (https://omni-working.com) (LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/gwen-stirling-wilkie-%F0%9F%8C%90-flexpert-strategist-6171356/)) Jim Benson, Founder & CEO at Modus Institute (https://modusinstitute.com) (LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimbenson/)) Lisette Sutherland, Founder & CEO at Collaboration Superpowers (https://www.collaborationsuperpowers.com/) (LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/lisettesutherland/)) Mark Kilby, Founder K5 Labs and Differability (https://differability.works) (LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/mkilby/)) To learn more about this podcat, visit: Labs.newrulesforwork.com (https://labs.newrulesforwork.com/)

5. 

   25 Apr 2024

   Everyday Exchange: From Chuckles to Meaningful Chat with Alison Wood Brooks

   In this captivating episode of the New Rules for Work Labs podcast, we delve deep into the art of conversation, the impact of AI on workplace dynamics, and strategies for effective group collaboration. Featuring insights from Harvard Business School’s Alison Wood Brooks, listeners will explore the layers of conflict in the workplace, navigate the complexities of everyday conversations, understand the significance of silence and structure in communication, and address airtime dominance in group settings. Join us as we explore how to foster inclusive conversations, bridge knowledge gaps, and adapt to the changing landscape of work through practical advice and engaging discussions. To learn more about Alison and her work on the science of communication, check out: • Her website (https://alisonwoodbrooks.com/) • Her upcoming book (https://alisonwoodbrooks.com/conversation-book/), Talk: The science of conversation and the art of being ourselves To watch this episode on YouTube (https://youtu.be/1gjRDrFmMVI) Producer: Podrick Sonicson To learn more about New Rules for Work: Website (https://newrulesforwork.com/) Labs (https://labs.newrulesforwork.com/) Newsletter (https://labs.newrulesforwork.com/)

6. 

   17 Apr 2024

   Future-Fit Team Agreements 1: What They Are and When We Need Them

   Episode 1 of a four-part series.  In this episode, we learn the modern history of team agreements and compare what six pioneering experts have learned about making them successful in their work with teams. Listen in as they share their insights on when teams need to form strong working agreements, the challenges of aligning objectives, and the hard-won tips on what doesn't work. To learn more about and connect with our Guests: Gustavo Razetti: https://www.fearlessculture.design (https://www.fearlessculture.design) Jim Benson: https://modusinstitute.com (https://modusinstitute.com) Gwen Stirling Wilkie: https://omni-working.com (https://omni-working.com) Bud Caddell: https://nobl.io (https://nobl.io) Mark Kilby: https://differability.works (https://differability.works) Lisette Sutherland: https://www.collaborationsuperpowers.com/ (https://www.collaborationsuperpowers.com/) Episode resources On YouTube (https://youtu.be/Tksq1RBcyLg) Related articles: https://labs.newrulesforwork.com/ (https://labs.newrulesforwork.com/) Producer: Podrick Sonicson To learn more about New Rules for Work: Website (https://newrulesforwork.com/) Labs (https://labs.newrulesforwork.com/) Newsletter (https://labs.newrulesforwork.com/) Event: 2024 Intent to Impact in Austin, TX (https://newrulesforwork.com/impact-2024/)

7. 

   21 Mar 2024

   Master in-the-moment communication with Matt Abrahams

   We dive into the art of spontaneous speaking with our guest Matt Abrahams. We discuss the importance of preparing to be spontaneous in various speaking scenarios, including the crucial roles of managing anxiety, focusing on connecting with the audience rather than striving for perfection, and the significance of structure in communication. Matt is a leading communication expert, educator, and author at Stanford University's Graduate School of Business, renowned for teaching strategic communication and effective virtual presenting. Recognized with Stanford GSB's Alumni Teaching Award, he's also a sought-after keynote speaker and consultant, assisting presenters globally, including those at IPO road shows and prestigious events like TED and the World Economic Forum. With millions of views on his online talks and an award-winning podcast, "Think Fast, Talk Smart," Abrahams empowers speakers with actionable skills, showcased in his latest book "Think Faster, Talk Smarter," and his previous bestseller "Speaking Up without Freaking Out." Matt shares his experience working with a diverse range of professionals, from founders to lawyers, emphasizing that effective communication is vital in every field. The conversation also covers imaginative scenarios to illustrate real-world applications of Matt's strategies, from drafting a thoughtful LinkedIn comment to navigating unexpected encounters in professional settings. The discussion concludes with resources for improving communication skills and the value of practicing spontaneous speaking to excel in personal and professional life. To learn more about and connect with Matt: • His podcast: Think Fast, Talk Smart (https://mattabrahams.com/podcast/) • His website: mattabrahams.com (https://mattabrahams.com) • His LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/maabrahams/) Episode Resources On YouTube (https://youtu.be/gxJ7O1eU6QM) Producer: Podrick Sonicson To learn more about New Rules for Work: Website (https://newrulesforwork.com/) Labs (https://labs.newrulesforwork.com/) Newsletter (https://labs.newrulesforwork.com/) Event: 2024 Intent to Impact in Austin, TX (https://newrulesforwork.com/impact-2024/)

8. 

   12 Jan 2024

   Balancing Your Present and Future in the Workplace with Hal Hershfield

   In this episode, we're joined by Hal Hershfield, Professor of Marketing, Behavioral Decision Making, and Psychology at UCLA’s Anderson School of Management, and author of  Your Future Self: How to Make Tomorrow Better Than Today. This episode dives deep into understanding our future selves and how we relate to them, especially in professional contexts. We discuss how goal setting and future planning play a major role and how time travel plays into it. The conversation delves into present bias and procrastination, distinguishing between superficial planning and deep future planning. Hal shares how we get the concept of future selves wrong and also brings up external influences and affective forecasting. We also touch on balancing utility over time and the importance of giving focus to our present selves too. Finally, we discuss practical techniques to enhance our vision of our future selves and also highlight a few researchers in the field. To learn more about Hal and his work: Hal's website: https://www.halhershfield.com/ (https://www.halhershfield.com/) Hal's book: https://www.halhershfield.com/yourfutureself (https://www.halhershfield.com/yourfutureself) Episode Resources Visual Guide (https://newrulesforwork.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/NR4W-Podcast-Hal-Hershfield-012024.png) YouTube (https://youtu.be/ROlsNHQUSiE) Producer: Podrick Sonicson To learn more about New Rules for Work: Website (https://newrulesforwork.com/) Labs (https://labs.newrulesforwork.com/) Newsletter (https://labs.newrulesforwork.com/) Event: 2024 Intent to Impact in Austin, TX (https://newrulesforwork.com/impact-2024/)

9. 

   21 Dec 2023

   Decoding the Dynamics of Right and Wrong Fit in the Workplace

   We're thrilled to be joined by André Martin, PhD, organizational psychologist, and Chief Talent Officer with an impressive track record at consumer giants like Target, Nike, Google, Mars Incorporated, and Disney. In our conversation, André uncovers the startling $7.8 trillion in lost workplace productivity and explains why he believes we need a new vision for a 'great place to work' that focuses on fit over traditional cultural norms. He shares the importance of self-reflection and how to recognize different career paths based on Company, Craft, and Cause. Why You Can't Miss This: There's something in here for job seekers & career builders, leaders looking to hire and build a team, and those tasked to develop corporate culture relating to talent acquisition and development. 01:14 Introduction and Focus of Work 02:10 Understanding Disengagement in the Workplace 03:43 Exploring the Concept of 'Fit' in the Workplace 06:28 The Importance of Self-Reflection in Job Seeking 11:17 Overcoming Confirmation Bias in Job Seeking 18:27 Understanding Different Career Paths: Company, Craft, Cause 21:31 The Impact of Company Transformation on Employee Fit 22:29 Re-evaluating Recruitment and Onboarding 23:09 The Cost of Mismatched Expectations 23:57 Redefining Job Descriptions 25:43 The Impact of Job Hopping 26:02 Companies Doing it Right 27:04 The Need for Re-recruiting 27:32 The Role of Leaders in Employee Engagement 29:00 The Future of Career Paths 29:38 The Cost of Job Hopping Revisited 30:45 Rethinking Job Search and Recruitment 35:18 Advice for Job Seekers 38:12 Where to Find More Resources Two examples of more realistic job previews: Careers at NOBL (https://boards.greenhouse.io/nobl) 37 Signals (https://37signals.com/) Episode Resources Visual Guide (https://newrulesforwork.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/NR4W_Podcast_Andre_Martin_20231217-2-scaled.jpg) YouTube (https://youtu.be/8fl26EzXkJE) To learn more about André and his work: Monday Matters newsletter (https://mondaymatters.substack.com/) www.wrongfitrightfit.com (http://www.wrongfitrightfit.com) The Book: Wrong Fit, Right Fit: Why How We Work Matters More Than Ever (https://www.wrongfitrightfit.com/) "Company, Craft, or Cause Excursion" From the book. Here is the link (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1AwVUwEnA-k6-dKDe9DnWh9YxvMvfm_AJ/view?usp=sharing) Dialogue Article (Duke Corporate Education Publication) titled "Right Fit, Wrong Fit". Here is the link (https://dialoguereview.com/right-fit-wrong-fit/) Producer: Podrick Sonicson To learn more about New Rules for Work: Website (https://newrulesforwork.com/) Labs (https://labs.newrulesforwork.com/) Newsletter (https://labs.newrulesforwork.com/) Event: 2024 Intent to Impact in Austin, TX (https://newrulesforwork.com/impact-2024/)

10. 

    14 Dec 2023

    April Rinne on Changes, Challenges and Futures in Flux

    In this episode, we're joined by April Rinne, Global Futurist & Keynote Speaker, Thinkers50, and author of FLUX: 8 Superpowers for Thriving in Constant Change. The conversation touches upon April's journey in writing her book and the epiphany that led to its formation. She elaborates on the concept of 'flux mindset' to help prepare for unwanted life changes. She also discusses the increasing trend of building a career portfolio and how it provides a more holistic perspective of an individual's skills and experiences. April also reveals the eight flux superpowers to better navigate the rapidly changing world. 02:59 The Timing and Motivation Behind Publishing 'Flux' 05:01 The Concept of Flux and Dealing with Uncontrolled Change 09:00 The Importance of Daily Self-Reflection 09:58 What Does the World Need from Me? 16:13 The Power of Teamwork in Navigating Change 17:19 The Eight Superpowers 30:26 Exploring the Concept of Career Portfolio 39:14 Connect with April Episode Resources Visual Guide (https://newrulesforwork.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/NR4W-Labs_-Flux-Mindset-wApril-Rinne2.png) YouTube ( https://youtu.be/0AaWnkJrGlI) To learn more about April and her work: April's website: www.aprilrinne.com (http://www.aprilrinne.com) For Flux mindset resources: www.fluxmindset.com (http://www.fluxmindset.com) New Rules for Work Labs Producer: Podrick Sonicson To learn more about New Rules for Work: Website (https://newrulesforwork.com/) Labs (https://labs.newrulesforwork.com/) Newsletter (https://labs.newrulesforwork.com/) Event: 2024 Intent to Impact in Austin, TX (https://newrulesforwork.com/impact-2024/)

11. 

    26 Nov 2023

    Overcoming Overwhelm at Work with Bob Sutton & Rebecca Hinds

    We're joined by Bob Sutton, an organizational psychologist and best-selling author, and Rebecca Hinds, the head of the work innovation lab at Asana. Bob and Rebecca highlight the need to shift from an addition mindset to a subtraction mindset to combat workplace overwhelm. They delve into the effectiveness of combining bottom-down and top-up strategies in creating changes in the workplace. Lastly, they emphasize the importance of continuously evaluating your work practices, especially with the rapidly changing tech landscape. 02:55 Understanding Corporate Overwhelm 04:10 The Exhaustion of Leadership Positions 06:14 The Role of Technology in Overwhelm 06:24 The Impact of the Pandemic on Tech Investments 08:44 The Importance of a People-First Strategy 11:38 The Balance Between Bottom-Up and Top-Down Strategies 11:53 The Role of Meetings and Collaboration Tools 21:18 The Importance of Team Resets and Refreshes 27:00 The Mythical Man Month and the Problem of Overstaffing 27:29 Apple's Unique Approach to Team Management 27:48 The Consequences of Overhiring in Tech 28:09 The Pitfalls of Spending Money as a Substitute for Action 28:37 The Human Tendency Towards Addition and Its Impact on Organizations 30:05 The Problem of Rewarding Addition Over Subtraction 31:02 Maintaining a Successful Subtraction Mindset 40:16 The Power of Constraints in Organizational Change 42:39 The Importance of Continuously Evaluating Work Practices Episode Resources Visual Guide (https://newrulesforwork.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/Overwhelm-Sketchnote-scaled.jpg) YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=818Czth0MmM) To learn more about our guests and their work: Bob Sutton (https://bobsutton.net) Rebecca Hinds (https://workinnovationlab.com) The Friction podcast (https://ecorner.stanford.edu/series/friction/) Book (available for pre-order): The Friction Project: How Smart Leaders Make the Right Things Easier and the Wrong Things Harder (https://www.bobsutton.net/book/the-friction-project/?utm_source=labs.newrulesforwork.com&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=overcoming-overwhelm-at-work-with-bob-sutton-rebecca-hinds) The original HBR articles: Are Collaboration Tools Overwhelming Your Team? (https://hbr.org/2023/08/are-collaboration-tools-overwhelming-your-team) Meeting Overload is a Fixable Problem (https://hbr.org/2022/10/meeting-overload-is-a-fixable-problem) Producer: Podrick Sonicson To learn more about New Rules for Work: Website (https://newrulesforwork.com/) Labs (https://labs.newrulesforwork.com/) Newsletter (https://labs.newrulesforwork.com/) Event: 2024 Intent to Impact in Austin, TX (https://newrulesforwork.com/impact-2024/)

12. 

    22 Nov 2023

    Join the 2024 Gathering: What to Expect

    Join us at the 2024 Intent to Impact Gathering in Austin and online, where your insights and experiences are invaluable. This isn't just another conference; it's a collaborative expedition into the future of teamwork. You and your peers will be joined by leading experts in neurodiversity, personal well-being at work, meetings, team creativity, artificial intelligence, workplace design, and distributed cognition. Together, we'll establish a fresh approach to forming and leading thriving teams. Gain cutting-edge insights from leaders in these fields, and learn transformative strategies for enhancing team creativity and well-being at work. Secure your spot now - join the forefront of workplace innovation! Find out more and grab your tickets now at: https://newrulesforwork.com/impact-2024/ (https://newrulesforwork.com/impact-2024/) Be a part of shaping the future of work. We can't wait to collaborate with you! Producer: Podrick Sonicson To learn more about New Rules for Work: Website (https://newrulesforwork.com/) Labs (https://labs.newrulesforwork.com/) Newsletter (https://labs.newrulesforwork.com/) Event: 2024 Intent to Impact in Austin, TX (https://newrulesforwork.com/impact-2024/)

13. 

    16 Nov 2023

    Circles and Soup with Diana Larsen

    We're joined by Diana Larsen, an international authority in Agile software development, team leadership, and Agile transitions, and co-developer of the team collaboration technique Circles and Soup. Diana developed Circles and Soup for teams feeling overwhelmed at work. In this conversation, Diana talks about why she created this technique, the practical applications, and potential missteps. We also discuss the use of Circles and Soup not only as a retrospective tool but as a planning activity that enables teams to recognize the scope of their agency. To learn more about Diana and her work visit DianaLarsen.com (https://dianalarsen.com/) or follow her on LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/dianalarsenagileswd/). Episode Links Episode Video on YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xD3LaLecoUM) Diana's original blog post: Circles and Soup (https://www.dianalarsen.com/blog/2010/07/26/circles-and-soup/) Article and How-To Instructions (https://labs.newrulesforwork.com/p/mvc-circles-soup-diana-larsen) Producer: Podrick Sonicson Producer: Podrick Sonicson To learn more about New Rules for Work: Website (https://newrulesforwork.com/) Labs (https://labs.newrulesforwork.com/) Newsletter (https://labs.newrulesforwork.com/) Event: 2024 Intent to Impact in Austin, TX (https://newrulesforwork.com/impact-2024/)

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