Next in Line is a podcast about what it really takes to lead and why it's time to pay it forward. Hosted by Cesar Jimenez, Founder/CEO of Prosource IT and Founder/Board Member at myBasePay, and co-hosted by Karina Jimenez, Founder of Social Kraft, each episode features unfiltered conversations with executives who’ve built, failed, and learned the hard way. They’re not here to impress; they’re here to share the truth with the next generation of leaders coming up behind them.
Ep. 98: Ian Colley, CMO at DeepIntent, on AI, Privacy, and Commercializing Pharma’s Next Generation of Treatments
Ian Colley, Chief Marketing Officer at DeepIntent, joins host Karina Jimenez to share the career journey that took him from public relations agencies in the UK to more than a decade at IBM, followed by a transition into advertising technology at The Trade Desk and eventually pharmaceutical marketing. He reflects on what drew him to the healthcare industry and why its unique challenges create opportunities for data-driven advertising and AI. Ian also explains how pharmaceutical marketing differs from traditional consumer marketing, from reaching highly specific patient populations to navigating the complexities of healthcare access, and how AI is helping companies make drug development and commercialization more targeted and efficient.
Ian and Karina also explore how AI is transforming pharmaceutical marketing, including DeepIntent’s agentic marketing platform, Cora, which brings together complex data to accelerate campaign planning and decision-making. They discuss the importance of responsible AI adoption in a highly regulated industry, protecting patient privacy, and adapting to changing consumer behaviors as more people turn to AI platforms for information. For the next generation of marketers, Ian encourages thinking strategically rather than focusing only on individual tasks, staying curious about emerging technologies, and seeking opportunities outside your comfort zone. Above all, he emphasizes the importance of storytelling as a skill that remains essential no matter how much technology changes.
20 Oct 2026
Ep. 97: Alan Wizemann on Entrepreneurship, Digital Transformation, Building High-Performing Teams, and the Future of AI
Alan Wizemann joins host Cesar Jimenez to share the unconventional career journey that took him from writing software at just nine years old to building startups and leading digital transformation at companies like Target, lululemon, and Southern Glazer’s Wine & Spirits. Without following a traditional college path, Alan built his career through curiosity, experimentation, and a willingness to challenge established ways of working. He reflects on his entrepreneurial experience building ShopIgniter and how that journey eventually led him to Target, where he helped develop Cartwheel, an application that reached millions of users and demonstrated how large organizations can embrace the agility and innovation of a startup.
Alan and Cesar also explore why successful digital transformation depends as much on people and organizational culture as it does on technology, from recognizing overlooked talent and overcoming resistance to creating environments where teams can experiment and learn from failure. They discuss how AI is reshaping the future of work, why traditional organizational structures may need to evolve, and the importance of empowering employees to drive innovation. For the next generation of leaders, Alan encourages embracing unconventional opportunities, learning through experience, recognizing potential in others, and having the courage to question the status quo rather than accepting that things must always be done a certain way.
15 Oct 2026
Ep. 96: Miguel Zorrilla, Senior Vice President, Marketing at Central Garden & Pet, on Career Reinvention, Legacy Brands, and Leading the Next Generation
Miguel Zorrilla, Senior Vice President of Marketing at Central Garden & Pet, joins host Karina Jimenez to share the career journey that took him from internships at MTV and Island Def Jam to an unexpected role in HR at Mars Wrigley, where he discovered his path into brand marketing. He reflects on his experience working with iconic brands like Snickers, Twix, and Butterfinger before making the intentional leap into the pet care industry. Miguel also shares his approach to keeping legacy brands relevant, including how his team reimagined Butterfinger’s classic campaign through the “Butterfinger Investigators” concept, preserving what made the brand recognizable while finding new ways to connect with consumers.
Miguel and Karina also explore why leadership requires adapting to different personalities, generations, and working styles, and how creating team charters can help build stronger collaboration. He reflects on the importance of taking ownership of your career, stepping outside your comfort zone, and finding mentors and advocates who can offer perspective along the way. For the next generation of leaders, Miguel encourages building a diverse skill set rather than chasing recognizable brands, staying curious, and developing genuine relationships throughout your career. Above all, his advice is to follow your passion and remember that success is just as much about enjoying the journey as it is about reaching the next milestone.
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5.0 / 5
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