About Nine Lives With Jeff King: Live Your Best One
This podcast covers topics pertaining to living our best life, from how to negotiate change and transition, personal development, spiritual formation and relationship skills. Nine Lives refers to the many restarts and reconstructions that we face in the course of our lifetime. Nine Lives is rooted in learning and applying the Enneagram in overcoming the traps the 9 personality structures lay for us.
What happens when the faith you were handed starts asking more of you than it can answer?
In this episode I visit with my own pastor, Deacon Godsey, lead pastor of Vintage Church in Lawrence, Kansas. We talk about faith that grows instead of freezing in place.
Deacon grew up in a conservative, literalist tradition that taught him to love the Bible and to think for himself. He tells how 9/11, seminary under Scot McKnight, and writing a study guide with Greg Boyd changed his mind on many things while his core convictions stayed put.
What I appreciate most about Deacon's story is that he changed his mind on dozens of things without ever letting go of the center. In his words: "I stopped reading the Bible literally and started taking it seriously."
For anyone with questions, or anger, about the faith they grew up in, Deacon offers some useful pastoral guidance: you are okay, find safe people, and let love be your fuel instead of anger.
In addition to being the lead pastor at Vintage, Deacon is also an adjunct professor of religion at Ottawa University, where his favorite course is Issues in Science and Religion, co-taught with a member of the science faculty. Deacon identifies as leading with Enneagram 4, with a strong 5 wing. Find out more about Vintage Church at https://vintagelawrence.com
If you're in the middle of a faith shift and need a safe, nonjudgmental, confidential companion, I would love to talk. Contact me at jeff@transmuto.org (mailto:jeff@transmuto.org)
26 Oct 2026
Always We Begin Again with Sr. Anna-Camille
Some of us may feel we are late comers to the spiritual journey. Others may be surprised to experience transitions and shifts in faith in our elder years.
My guest in this episode, Sr. Anna-Camille, is no stranger to ongoing and late-life spiritual transitions and milestones. Sr. Anna-Camille was a public-school teacher for 40 years and an improv actor by night. She entered the monastery, St. Placid Priory, at 62 and made final profession before turning 70.
Our conversation traces her faith journey from a cedar-scented Bible camp tabernacle to monastic vows, with no road to Damascus — just God's breadcrumbs — and reflects on being loved, resting in God, and beginning again. Adding to the mix of Sr. Anna-Camille's faith development, she leads with Type 7.
In addition to her life and duties at St. Placid, Sr. Anna-Camille leads retreats and serves as a spiritual director. Find out more at https://stplacid.org
19 Oct 2026
Trusting Stillness: Brian Mueller on Presence, Poetry, and the Second Half of Life
Brian Mueller joins me in this episode of Nine Lives and together we unpack the stages of his spiritual journey. Brian had the unique opportunity of growing up in the New Jerusalem Community, founded by Richard Rohr, in Cincinnati. Brian's story includes being immersed in the life and energy of New Jerusalem in his childhood, observing the impact on the community when Rohr moved away, and finding his own journey throughout his adulthood.
Brian's story exemplifies Rohr's model of spiritual formation: order, disorder, reorder. While some use the term "deconstruction," Brian sees his journey more from the perspective of "reconstruction."
Brian is a poet, writer, and contemplative teacher. He helps lead Illumen, a spiritual community that helps men heal by connecting with themselves, others, and the needs of the world. He also serves in leadership with Choosing Presence, helping people experience transformation through practices that ground them in the present moment.
Find more about Brian and his work at: https://www.brianmueller.com , https://www.illuman.org (https://www.illuman.org) , and https://www.choosingpresence.org
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