
No BS Bureaucracy
Claim This Podcastby Mark Wheeler and Mike Sarasti
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<p><b>Welcome to "No BS Bureaucracy," your entertaining guide to local government technology and policy. Hosted by Mike Sarasti and Mark Wheeler, two former big-city CIOs who are anything but typical tech guys, this podcast ditches dry formalities for real talk about what works versus what’s just hype. Mike and Mark break it down with a blend of hard-earned wisdom and humor that’s more John Oliver than a civics teacher who’s given up caffeine.<br></b><br></p><p><b><br>Mike, Miami’s first Chief Innovation Officer, and Mark, Philly’s first Chief Geographic Information Officer, aren't just any bureaucrats—they’re creatives and community builders who found their way into technology. Mike’s a musician in the indie electronic/alt-pop band Raker, and Mark’s an improv actor, so you know things won’t be boring. Their unique blend of expertise and creativity makes for lively and always insightful conversations. Think of a "Real Time with Bill Maher" panel with Leslie Knope from “Parks and Recreation,” but suitable for work!<br></b><br></p><p><b><br>Join Mike and Mark as they break down the topics of the day: AI, Govtech, smart cities, innovation, data privacy, digital ID, digital transformation, leadership, people and process, and more. They tackle serious topics with a relaxed, engaging tone, but with a touch of snark. Expect candid discussions with civil servants about making a difference, successes and failures, and advice for policy makers and technologists.<br></b><br></p><p><b><br>If you’re into making local government better, whether you’re a politician, technology leader, or just someone who cares, "No BS Bureaucracy" is for you. Tune in, learn something new, and have a good time doing it.<br><br></b><br></p><p><b>(theme music, “Hologram” by Raker)<br></b><br></p><p><b>Follow Mark and Mike on LinkedIn, and Raker Instagram: <br></b><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/markwheelerphl/"><b>https://www.linkedin.com/in/markwheelerphl/<br></b></a><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarasti/"><b>https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarasti/<br></b></a><b>@rakermusic </b><a href="https://www.instagram.com/rakermusic"><b>https://www.instagram.com/rakermusic</b></a><b> </b></p>
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Recent Episodes

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In Episode #5, co-hosts Mike Sarasti and Mark Wheeler chat with civic innovation leader Eliza Erickson to explore how local governments can shape innovation ecosystems within and outside of city hall. From her unexpected leap into government work to managing a flagship portfolio in Philadelphia, Eliza spills the tea on what it takes to grow and shape innovation as a city service. Some highlights:People, Place, and Process: Eliza lays out her career-defining mantra and how this framework shape...

November 11, 2024
Want Evergreen Innovation? Subtract, Don’t Add. An Interview with Innovation Expert, Brian Elms
In this episode of No BS Bureaucracy, Mike Sarasti and Mark Wheeler join forces with public sector innovation guru Brian Elms, of Peak Academy and Change Agents, to explore how to make continuous process improvement part of the bureaucracy— revealing that to make local government services better, the best addition is a good subtraction. There are too many insights in this episode to list! Don’t Quit When You're Ahead - Brian emphasizes that innovation in government is an evergreen progra...
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- What is No BS Bureaucracy ?
<p><b>Welcome to "No BS Bureaucracy," your entertaining guide to local government technology and policy. Hosted by Mike Sarasti and Mark Wheeler, two former big-city CIOs who are anything but typical tech guys, this podcast ditches dry formalities for real talk about what works versus what’s just hype. Mike and Mark break it down with a blend of hard-earned wisdom and humor that’s more John Oliver than a civics teacher who’s given up caffeine.<br></b><br></p><p><b><br>Mike, Miami’s first Chief Innovation Officer, and Mark, Philly’s first Chief Geographic Information Officer, aren't just any bureaucrats—they’re creatives and community builders who found their way into technology. Mike’s a musician in the indie electronic/alt-pop band Raker, and Mark’s an improv actor, so you know things won’t be boring. Their unique blend of expertise and creativity makes for lively and always insightful conversations. Think of a "Real Time with Bill Maher" panel with Leslie Knope from “Parks and Recreation,” but suitable for work!<br></b><br></p><p><b><br>Join Mike and Mark as they break down the topics of the day: AI, Govtech, smart cities, innovation, data privacy, digital ID, digital transformation, leadership, people and process, and more. They tackle serious topics with a relaxed, engaging tone, but with a touch of snark. Expect candid discussions with civil servants about making a difference, successes and failures, and advice for policy makers and technologists.<br></b><br></p><p><b><br>If you’re into making local government better, whether you’re a politician, technology leader, or just someone who cares, "No BS Bureaucracy" is for you. Tune in, learn something new, and have a good time doing it.<br><br></b><br></p><p><b>(theme music, “Hologram” by Raker)<br></b><br></p><p><b>Follow Mark and Mike on LinkedIn, and Raker Instagram: <br></b><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/markwheelerphl/"><b>https://www.linkedin.com/in/markwheelerphl/<br></b></a><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarasti/"><b>https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarasti/<br></b></a><b>@rakermusic </b><a href="https://www.instagram.com/rakermusic"><b>https://www.instagram.com/rakermusic</b></a><b> </b></p> - How often does this podcast release new episodes?
This podcast updates bi-weekly.
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This podcast is available on 8 platforms including Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and more. You can also use the RSS feed directly.
- Does this podcast accept guests?
No, this podcast does not typically feature guests.
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