The real estate world is full of highlight reels, polished scripts, and everyone trying to look like they have it all figured out. Yeah… we’re not doing that here. Welcome to No Contingencies. 🎙️ A LIVE podcast, hosted by Parker Pemberton & Liz Rein. This is where we talk about: • The deals that changed everything • The ones that fell apart at the closing table • Growth that feels exciting and uncomfortable • The real day-to-day grind behind building a business • The stuff most people avoid because it’s not “marketable” No filters. No performance. No contingencies.
#25 ft. Matt van Voorhis - From Pucks to Properties: How The Hockey Realtor Built His Business
Matt Van Voorhis played for the U17 US National Team, the Sioux Falls Stampede, the University of Denver, and in Europe. Then COVID ended his hockey career, and he started over in real estate with $10K in the bank. Almost a year into his time at Pemberton Real Estate, he talks about how he built his business and his brand as “The Hockey Realtor.”
In this episode:
Hot takes on whether first-time buyers should use AI instead of an agent, why commissions went up after the NAR settlement, and private listing networks (including a debate over days on market)
How a new construction buyer got $40K off the price and a lower rate by bringing in an agent
What he learned from mentors Randy Lindorf and Jordan Schroeder, and why he chose to niche down into the hockey community
His 7-point weekly process, borrowed from his college coach: hit 5 of 7 and it was a good week
Why he slowed down after a health scare, and how he resets his goals around the stage of life he’s in
His advice for buyers and sellers right now, and why pricing, presentation, and people matter more than ever
Hosts Liz Ryan and Parker Pemberton also discuss the shift from a “speed market” to a “skill market,” and why the number one listing in a price bracket sells while the number seven listing sits.
No Contingencies is a real estate show for agents who want it straight: no filters, no fluff.
2 Oct 2026
#24 ft. Joe Maselter - From Target to Twice Retired
PRE's newest office leader, Joe Maselter, joins Liz and Parker on his birthday, which is also one year to the day since PRE went independent.
Joe started selling real estate to cover daycare costs while he was working at Target corporate. He quit after six deals, missed it, and came back full time. Thirteen years later he's had a 100+ deal year. In this episode he explains how he built that business through weekend open houses and by knowing the neighborhood better than anyone who walked in. He also talks openly about what that pace cost him personally, and what he'd do differently.
Parker shares a formula for newer agents. Live on a fixed income no matter how much you make. Put about 20% of your GCI back into systems and people. Build a weekly activity plan backward from a 20-sale goal. They also cover holding agents to real standards, staying calm when deals go sideways, and why putting the client first takes a lot of the stress out of the job.
Topics:
Making open houses worth your time in a slow season
Using AI to prep for any listing in five minutes
Why most agents get stuck spending everything they make
Building leverage before you burn out
Consistency over hustle
If you got value from this conversation, share it with an agent who's serious about growing in this market.
10 Sept 2026
#23 ft. Britt Schwieger & Liz Gust - Never Miss a Monday: Britt Schwieger on Consistency, Social Media, and Staying in the Game
Britt Schwieger didn't plan on residential real estate — she went from a New York City brokerage internship to commercial property management at CB Richard Ellis before getting licensed in under three weeks and selling 12 homes in her first 12 weeks on Zillow leads. In this episode, Britt breaks down what actually made that stretch work (hint: it wasn't the leads, it was saying yes to everything and learning fast from rejection), how she sets expectations with strangers walking into a showing, and the boundaries she's had to build since — no showings before dinner, gym at 4pm, non-negotiable.
The conversation also digs into the harder question every agent on social media eventually faces: how much of your real life do you actually show? Britt, Liz, and Nick talk through posting through slow seasons, sharing (or not sharing) your kids, and why showing the "junkiest photo of the house" might do more for your business than another perfect listing shot.
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