Welcome to The nOMad Collective's The Space in Between with Phoebe Leona. In this podcast, prepare to hear stories from Phoebe and her guests in all the spaces in between that are an invitation to dance with life. Stories from Joy to Heartbreak to Fear to Curiosity to Love and everything in between. Be prepared to receive wisdom and practices that will guide you on your journey.
Between the On-Ramp and the Off-Ramp with Stephanie Schroeder
The Space In Between the On-Ramp and the Off-Ramp
A conversation with Stephanie Schroeder, yoga teacher and Sage Guide
She was on her way to San Diego. Barcelona had been the dream since the Barcelona Olympics, but a study abroad counselor asked the right question at the right moment, and suddenly she was boarding a plane to Mazatlán instead — in the Tropic of Cancer, because her sun sign is Cancer and that seemed aligned.
Her luggage didn't arrive. Her host family changed two days before she left. And the moment she walked through the gate and met her new family, it felt like home.
That was over thirty years ago. She still cries every time she leaves Mexico.
In this conversation, Stephanie Schroeder sits with nOMad founder Phoebe Leona in the space in between — between the Spanish teacher she was for 15 years and the retreat guide she's becoming. Between the practice she taught and the practice she's finally bringing back home to herself. Between Indianapolis, where she's stationed, and the Yucatan, where she belongs.
We talk about what it felt like when Stephanie's body said enough — the exhaustion she couldn't name, the weight gain, the drinking she used to fill the gap where rest should have been — and how yoga didn't just give her tools, it gave her sobriety. We explore the difference between the physical practice and the spiritual one, what it means when the practice you love gets tangled up with making a living, and why Stephanie believes her retreats are less about yoga and more about pilgrimage.
We also hear about her two annual retreats in the Yucatan — a fall journey into ancestral honoring timed to Day of the Dead in Mérida, and a spring shamanic experience of restoration and renewal in the jungle, where the equinox sunset at Chichén Itzá makes the serpent god Kukulkán appear to descend the temple stairs. Plus a third retreat taking shape around the Moon Goddess — women only, because of course.
And at the very end, Stephanie offers the image her client gave her that stopped both of us in our tracks: I am both on the on-ramp and the off-ramp.
That's the space in between. And she's learning to live there with grace.
Links mentioned:
Stephanie's website: creativenature.life
Stephanie on Instagram & Facebook: @creativenature.life
Fall retreat — Ancestral Honoring, Mérida, Yucatan: October 24–30: https://www.creativenature.life/retreat
Spring retreat — Restoring Balance, Yucatan jungle: March 16–22: https://www.creativenature.life/retreat
The nOMad Collective: thenomadcollective.org
If Stephanie's story moved you — share this episode. And if Mexico has been calling you, maybe it's time to answer.
11 Aug 2026
Between the Corner Office and the Caribbean with Lori Konkler
A conversation with Lori Konkler, integrative success mentor and Sage Guide
She had the corner office. She had the teams, the titles, the career in hospitality she'd spent 15 years building. And then she went to New Zealand and Fiji on a dream vacation, read an e-book about becoming a digital nomad on a beach, and came home to a life that suddenly no longer fit.
So she and her husband packed up and moved to the Virgin Islands. And discovered — like so many of us who chase paradise — that wherever you go, there you are.
In this conversation, Lori Konkler sits with nOMad founder Phoebe Leona in the space in between — between the high achiever the world told her to be and the high-capacity human she actually is. Between fixing one thing only to watch something else break, and finally looking at all of it at the same time.
We talk about Lori's concept of high-capacity humans — and why that framing opens doors that "high achiever" closes for so many people. We explore her Paradigm Shift Method, what it actually means to embody aligned success across all areas of your life at once, and why the same root patterns keep showing up in our health, our relationships, and our businesses until we're brave enough to look at all three together.
We dig into Human Design — how Lori found it through astrology, why she calls it nature's algorithm, and what it means that the world is essentially designed for generators while projectors like Phoebe have been exhausting themselves trying to keep up. We also explore the nuance between being an expert and being a guide, why 28-day certifications are a symptom of something bigger, and why Lori believes that retreats are the clinics of the new world — not a luxury, but a genuine pathway to healing.
And we close with the principle that's been quietly running through everything: slow is fast. The more you anchor into stillness, the faster the 3D world catches up to where you already are.
Links mentioned:
Lori's website: thexennialtraveler.com
Lori on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/lori.konkler
The nOMad Collective: thenomadcollective.org
If something in Lori's story resonated — share this episode. Your corner office might just be the beginning of a much bigger story.
14 Jul 2026
Between the Expert and the Guide
He was a massage therapist for eighteen years. Thousands of sessions, thousands of bodies — learning to listen with his hands, to find the knot before the person could name it.
Then carpal tunnel ended that chapter. And in the uncertain space that followed, Gregg Gonzales wandered into a Starbucks with a former massage client, asked her some questions, and listened. When the hour was over, she said: It's the same thing. You just found a different way to touch people.
That was the moment everything shifted.
In this conversation, Gregg sits with nOMad founder Phoebe Leona in the space in between — between the expert who needs credentials on the wall and the guide who already has hundreds of transformed lives as proof. Between the person who has everything to say and the one who hasn't yet found the words to say it.
We talk about why Gregg walked away from the word coach and toward guide — and why that distinction matters more than it might seem. We explore his CARE model (Curiosity, Attention, Reflection, Expression) and how a single well-placed question can open doors that years of journaling couldn't. We dig into the idea of story excavation — and what it means to be a story doula for someone who swears they have nothing worth saying.
We also talk about imposter syndrome, the lost art of true conversation in a world of scrolling and distraction, why speaking your story out loud is often more powerful than writing it down, and what Gregg is building next — including a book of questions he answers himself, a growing Substack, and a retreat container that's been quietly taking shape.
Links mentioned:
Gregg's website — The Speakeasy Method: thespeakeasymethod.co
Gregg on Facebook:
The nOMad Collective: thenomadcollective.org
If this conversation made you want to sit with a really good question — that's exactly the point. Share it with someone who needs permission to speak.
Inside a recent episode
167- Lead By Receiving
Published 2 Apr 2024 · Transcript excerpt
[…] And what I find is that what I've found is such similar complaints and, um, reports about the way women are feeling these days. And so I had to write something. I had to start offering workshops and being a leader in this field because it was so prevalent. And what it is really, Phoebe, is this state where women are waking up to realize that they know who they are in all their roles for everyone, and yet they have very little idea of who they are for themselves, or they know what everyone else put another way in their life wants and needs and are so good at filling it, but really haven't introduced themselves, I would say, to what it is they want and need. […]
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