Christianity has become known for judgy people, strange words, confusing rules, and a members-only mindset. This is why I stayed away from the church for so long, but it’s not supposed to be that way. I’m Jill Devine, a former radio music personality with three tattoos and a love for a good tequila. Join me on the Normal Goes A Long Way podcast where we seek answers to real questions with real people about how faith and life intersect.
182: Answering the Call - My Uganda Mission Story and Why You Should Go Too
Hearts & Hope for Uganda [https://heartsandhope.org/] has been featured on this podcast numerous times. The first appearance happened in Episodes 75 [https://normalgoesalongway.com/75-a-mission-to-create-hope-and-transform-lives-in-uganda-part-1/] and 76 [https://normalgoesalongway.com/76-a-mission-to-create-hope-and-transform-lives-in-uganda-part-2/], when Jill Devine talked to Andy Wiggins and Todd Larkin. Andy and Todd are the Co-Founders of Hearts & Hope for Uganda. Hearts & Hope is a St. Louis-area 501c3 nonprofit focused on transforming poor villages in Uganda through clean water, health & wellness, education, and small business development.
Our Vision
That every community and child of Uganda would see their full potential, and that we might have the will to help them achieve it.
Our Mission
To develop transformational relationships with the people of Uganda. To partner in the development of communities that would promote spiritual, physical, and socio-economic transformation.
Then, in Episodes 83 [https://normalgoesalongway.com/83-yes-moments-saying-yes-to-working-for-a-nonprofit-part-1/] & 84 [https://normalgoesalongway.com/84-yes-moments-saying-yes-to-working-for-a-nonprofit-part-2/], Sara Owens, Program Leader, and Kelly Turntine, Marketing & Business Development at Hearts & Hope, joined Jill to discuss the YES moment(s) that led to leaving their corporate jobs to pursue a career in the nonprofit sector.
In this week's episode, Jill invited Nick Bennett, Partner and Donor Relations, a.k.a. "The Guy for Partner and Donor Relations", at Hearts & Hope, on to discuss their time together in Uganda, Hearts & Hope's 10-year anniversary, and what's on the horizon for the nonprofit.
Interested in sponsoring a student like Jill and Nick do? Click here. [https://heartsandhope.org/sponsorship]
Have additional questions? Email Nick: nick.bennett@heartsandhope.org
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30 Oct 2025
181: Spiritual Paths in Contrast Christianity and Modern-Day Witchcraft
In this special Halloween episode, Pastor Maxx Fisher joins Jill Devine to discuss modern day witchcraft and how prevalent it is in our everyday lives.
Highlights from the episode include:
* Neopaganism
* Witches
* Wicca
* The term monad
* The use of Magic
* Christian Discipleship
If you have questions or would like to chat through some of the items discussed, please reach out to Maxx via email: mfisher@mlslions.org
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9 Oct 2025
180: KIDS VERSION - The End of Time
We've come to the end of our journey together through God's Big Story. But it's not really the end! Our prayer is that families will keep learning together and growing together in faith! Talking about Heaven is a great place to start this week. Here are some ideas:
Preschoolers: What do you want to do in Heaven? Who will you see there? How will you feel in Heaven? The Bible tells us there will be no crying, no hurts, no tears!
Early Elementary: The Bible tells is that Jesus is preparing a place for us in Heaven, and that "In my Father's house there are many rooms." (John 14:2-4) Describe what you hope to see and do in Heaven!
Older Elementary: How do you feel when you think about Heaven? What questions do you have? What do you hope for? What would it be like if time didn't matter and there was no sadness?
Here are some more resources to help your family grow in faith together!
• The Beginner's Gospel Story Bible (great for toddlers and preschoolers!) [https://www.amazon.com/dp/1945270047/ref=cm_sw_r_as_gl_api_gl_i_JFV6C4EMJ55EKKPJ9J55?linkCode=ml2&tag=kylarodrigu01-20&fbclid=IwY2xjawNHowFleHRuA2FlbQIxMABicmlkETFaaXZ5NzhhZ2h5QnFBWGxjAR7CtyATUloTdZuX2qXpxj9VoA8K7xVJje7j7ECuSdm_kFuOez-GB2HLPbreZQ_aem_2YGcPyOKvb5trVDtpf_S9w]
• The Hear-Me-Read Bible (great for young readers!) [https://www.cph.org/the-hear-me-read-bible?srsltid=AfmBOooNPYXfbM9jAFFAlWvMwOoMgSoKBEjMdRXFx-137oO791BZUWnS]
• Notes from Jesus (one of my very favorite books for early elementary!) [https://www.christianbook.com/notes-jesus-best-friend-wants-know/mikal-keefer/9781470750299/pd/750299?en=google&event=SHOP&kw=childrens-books-0-20%7C750299&p=1179710&utm_source=google&p=1234083&dv=c&cb_src=google&cb_typ=shopping&cb_cmp=20379181146&cb_adg=157175267691&cb_kyw=&utm_medium=shopping&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=20379181146&gbraid=0AAAAAD_dTHbFzY2-zWFUCgITdWMmTNZr7&gclid=Cj0KCQjw3OjGBhDYARIsADd-uX440XaOoZb1rXqo0Uea5NM2rRNOK-17eo8VoYGUsFV1TYVtJ_vxi1kaAmTlEALw_wcB]
• Kindling the Heart- Family Edition (simple devotions for families!) [https://www.amazon.com/Kindling-Heart-Nurturing-Christ-like-Servant/dp/B088BD5RG2/ref=sr_1_1?crid=14AS4K0HJOK0H&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.mkRUxF0uUJDIBrJgydVepAZK_zJUo9m9IYHwW-beLtTGjHj071QN20LucGBJIEps.cLJm87p1gghexC7U23s0mcxa2mEyC0va3F0U8kASdY0&dib_tag=se&keywords=kindling+the+heart+family+devotions&qid=1759169492&sprefix=kindling+the+heart+family+devotions%2Caps%2C87&sr=8-1]
• RightNowMedia [https://app.rightnowmedia.org/en/library/115] and Minno [https://gominno.com/home2/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=paid_search&utm_campaign=HDLT_Minno_Google_Search_Web_Brand&matchtype=e&network=g&device=c&adposition=&keyword=minno%20kids&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=22686010035&gbraid=0AAAAAC2KiEzHB_gTC37LFA83sZLu-pTNN&gclid=Cj0KCQjw3OjGBhDYARIsADd-uX6gW2XXNQe-HERxGhbchpRi3TgyGaD-HSymXHUv2Bv3pc4HhGo8ex4aAvYREALw_wcB](Christian video content for kids!)
• Seeds Kids Worship [https://open.spotify.com/playlist/37i9dQZF1DZ06evO38DMYF?si=R1RG5V9tTb6HOVYrIfK6Ng] and Rain for Roots [https://open.spotify.com/album/3vszbQjMDkqlHAVDZ7tATM?si=W4tfYOKdSrm9yiIcH0NF4A&nd=1&dlsi=3ed16dd423e746de] (Kids worship and Bible memory songs)
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