Welcome to Not Another Dog and Pony Show, where animal behaviour and training professionals Lauren Fraser, MSc, FFCP, and Matthias Lenz, KPA graduate, FDM, are on a mission to connect dog and horse trainers from diverse backgrounds, through open-minded & friendly, philosophical discourse. We tackle our industry's 'dog and pony show' issues head-on, encouraging our training and behaviour colleagues to learn from one another and consider things from outside one's usual biases. We believe such unity is crucial for improving our industry and, ultimately, the welfare of animals.

Not Another Dog and Pony Show
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Welcome to Not Another Dog and Pony Show, where animal behaviour and training professionals Lauren Fraser, MSc, FFCP, and Matthias Lenz, KPA graduate, FDM, are on a mission to connect dog and horse trainers from diverse backgrounds, through open-minded & friendly, philosophical discourse. We tackle our industry's 'dog and pony show' issues head-on, encouraging our training and behaviour colleagues to learn from one another and consider things from outside one's usual biases. We believe such unity is crucial for improving our industry and, ultimately, the welfare of animals.
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Recent Episodes

July 15, 2026
Safaris, angles of approach, and the end of an era
<p>Where we sit down to talk about Matthias' recent work/play trip to South Africa, Lauren's big news, and if gatekeeping important info could be better for our industry, and the animals we serve.</p><p>Also, elephant rutting season smell-o-vision, angles of approach, and Mommas-don't-let-your-passion-become-your-profession woes.</p><p><a href="https://guidedog.org.za/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferer">South African Guide Dog Association</a></p><p><a href="Tagalaka man Victor Steffensen is a cultural burning expert" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">The Conversations podcast episode about Tagalaka man Victor Steffensen's journey to becoming a cultural burning expert.</a></p><p><br></p>

June 3, 2026
Aliens! Just kidding.
<p>Where Lauren and Matthias sit down to talk about the end of the search bar as we know it (and how that might impact your business), animal behaviour and training conference formats, and 'liberty' training both dogs and horses<br>Also, Team Erin, mouth money, and absolutely not aliens. </p><p><a href="https://www.cbc.ca/listen/live-radio/1-379-cost-of-living/clip/16216405-so-long-google-search-bar" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferer">CBC Radio 'So Long Google Search Bar' segment </a><br>Topic or guest suggestions? Fan mail? Hate mail? We love to hear from you all!<br>Email notanotherdogandponyshow@gmail.com</p>

May 4, 2026
Gretta Ford: Building a sustainable behaviour/training business
<p>Where Lauren sits down with Gretta Ford (unfortunately without Matthias) to talk about how underpricing our services, the wrong marketing, and the social media hamster wheel all impact our businesses. And what we can do instead.</p><p>Also, the flattened nuance trap, architectural firm websites, and what makes Lauren's armpits really sweaty.</p><p><a href="https://www.setuptosucceed.co.uk/make-it-click">Gretta's Make it Click Freebie</a></p><p><a href="https://www.setuptosucceed.co.uk/secret-base-rate-calculator-sign-up">Gretta's Base Rate Calculator</a></p><p></p><p>Topic or guest suggestions? Fan mail? Hate mail? We love to hear from you all!</p><p>Email notanotherdogandponyshow@gmail.com</p>
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